Originally posted by gladosrev2

Originally posted by cesmode8

Im not bashing GW2, but I dont think its as dynamic as people think it is.  Maybe I am playing the game wrong, which Ive never played an MMO or a game wrong, I thought there was no correctway.  But I keep doing the same dynamic events, twice or even three times before I can move into a higher lvl area.

You are playing it wrong :P

Move to another area you haven't done before, even if its below your level, instead of repeating the same event. Due to autoscaling GW2 plays diferently than other MMO's so for example doing all 3 starter regions is the correct thing to do.

Also, keep in mind while on release there might be relatively few variations on DE, ANet has said they will be adding new events often all over the place, and in a year or two the number might double or tripple, and chances of finding the same event twice will lessen significantly. It is the perfect expansion system for a living world.

What he said.  Just change zones, or if you are interested in PvP just go into WvWvW.  You can level and gain gear from PvP. OP, I'd really recommend just pre-purchasing Guild Wars 2. If you buy the game now, you gain access to all the beta events.  If you are bored with the questing system of most MMOs, GW2 has done a great job of fixing the grind.

Originally posted by JudgeUK

 

Looking back, I have been using exactly the same mechanic on mobs for the last 40+ levels - send thrall in to group mobs - run in  - aeo - run in - aoe - run in  - aoe.............................

This looks like the first mmo where I have'nt taken at least one character to the cap lvl. Mind you, from what I'm hearing about end game, that may not be a bad thing at the moment.

 

You are playing an action game, and you are complaining that the caster class is dull.

Try a melee?  You know what the game was designed for?

:-(

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by jtcgs

Its not like people werent warning everyone about how bad the game is.

When your story is...horrible...the reason for doing the quests decreases greatly. When mobs are generic...killing them repeadly becomes old faster. When quests are mundane people start to lose interest before endgame...and then when they get there they realize that endgame is very thin for a game that has been live for well over a year.

Why are you still here?  Do you enjoy torturing yourself been on the forum of a game you don't even like?

 

Terriorty control is nice but problem is it all goes to the zerg guild. Who ever gets the largest zerg hold the area and i think thats the real reason blue hole isn't doing OWPVP with territory control. Is to avoid that zerg guild control everything. Although i find the voting retarded, i what they should have went was either you won by massive pvp, like castle seize or something for certain provience. Those are for your large zerg guilds (just like the guild who wins most votes are the large zerg guilds) and the rest be battle ground so smaller guilds with elite 5 or 10 man group can have power. I think that would have been a much better way to break up the political system than voting. Hell if they really wanted it split it 3 way between, vote, open world pvp, and battleground.

That could be fixed with allowing alliances.

Remember, in Lineage 2 some of the larger guilds, even with alliances, were toppled by many smaller and medium guilds joining together.

It's very doable.

You know, I have played a lot of toons in this game and discovered one thing - leveling support solo is about as fun as watching my mold samples grow in the lab.  It takes forever and not much happens, but the final product is a pretty, fluffly, orange fungus.  Leveling a support is slow due to a lack of overall damage, but being able to heal a dungeon is crazy fun and active in this game... especially as a mystic.  

Chances are if you rolled up a dps, or grouped up with a dps, you would already be at cap.  My suggestion (if you absolutely must, or have to, solo) would be to roll up alts.  Although the mobs might look the same, how you kill them is markedly different between classes and that really takes the edge off of any potential burn out.

Just to give you an example (and I love this one), if you roll a warrior, and feel like it is getting old, but do not want to lose mobility, rolling a slayer might be a good choice.  The slayer will hit way harder with fewer swings, and remains mobile.  If you simply want to hit like a train and don't mind moving slow so long as you can take out half a mob's health in one swing, berserker would be a good choice (LOLTHUNDERSTRIKE).  The list goes on, but you get the idea (I hope).

Originally posted by rexzshadow 

Why are you still here? Do you enjoy torturing yourself been on the forum of a game you don't even like?

I am just floating all over the MMORPG site to all topics that pop up...I think its safe to say you are the one with issues.

I mean, is your hold on the game so weak that you feel threatened by other peoples opinions? Kinda sad you know...I love seeing people give their opposing opinons on what I enjoy. But I DO thank you for not actually addressing my points made, you would think the troll would be the one floating around the entire site instead of the one sticking to a "terroritory".

Originally posted by cesmode8

I am thinking that, but is it a 20 minute hike to the next starter area? And would my XP gain/money gain be the same if I am doing DEs for level 5 when I am 10?  I know the game bumps you down, but how does that effect xp gain

 

You get the appropriate amount of experience and rewards for your actual level (not the level you were bumped down to).

Originally posted by jtcgs

Originally posted by rexzshadow 

Why are you still here? Do you enjoy torturing yourself been on the forum of a game you don't even like?

I am just floating all over the MMORPG site to all topics that pop up...I think its safe to say you are the one with issues.

I mean, is your hold on the game so weak that you feel threatened by other peoples opinions? Kinda sad you know...I love seeing people give their opposing opinons on what I enjoy. But I DO thank you for not actually addressing my points made, you would think the troll would be the one floating around the entire site instead of the one sticking to a "terroritory".

Well if i don't like a game i avoid it, i don't see if the point of constantly going on the thread of a game you don't like and posting negative comments? What do you want out of it to be exact? i mean if it was constructive than yes your engaging in a converstaion or debate and thats fun and i'm all for that. But all you do is post the same negative comments over and over and over thats been stated for month? Is there a point to repeating it?

I find discussions about grinding nonsense. All persistent world games will be grindy if you stay long enough. It's just like real life.

Originally posted by StarI

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Originally posted by Mizzoufan

Originally posted by butter1011

Stop doing things that you don't want to do.

lol.

Wise words - advice already taken with sub cancellation - roll on GW2 or Secret World ? 

 I don't think he ment another mmo.

You sure?  Selecting another MMO is reflexive, even for people who's attitudes refect hatred of the entire genre.

Originally posted by Icewhite

You sure?  Selecting another MMO is reflexive, even for people who's attitudes refect hatred of the entire genre.

I don't see a hatred for the genre in his post. Don't mistake a dislike for stale conventions within a genre for a dislike of the genre as a whole.

Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by JudgeUK

 

Looking back, I have been using exactly the same mechanic on mobs for the last 40+ levels - send thrall in to group mobs - run in  - aeo - run in - aoe - run in  - aoe.............................

This looks like the first mmo where I have'nt taken at least one character to the cap lvl. Mind you, from what I'm hearing about end game, that may not be a bad thing at the moment.

 

You are playing an action game, and you are complaining that the caster class is dull.

Try a melee?  You know what the game was designed for?

Quit your damn crying and whining and play the damn game. If you dont like the class you had then switch up. You should  have known how this class was going to be when you started leveling. And now you want to complain. I swear people whine and criticized games of silly things. 

Originally posted by cesmode8

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Originally posted by Mizzoufan

Originally posted by butter1011

Stop doing things that you don't want to do.

lol.

Wise words - advice already taken with sub cancellation - roll on GW2 or Secret World ? 

 My warrior hit 45 last night(got from 44 to 45 in one day, maybe about 2-2.5 hours of play time).  The game is not grindy for me as I mix in bams, questing, and dungeons.  As for the cut and paste models, I've seen it, I'll agree. But currently in westonia, these are new mobs.  As for the same rotation, sure.  But...that...is in..every other mmo?  wut?  It hardly changes in other MMOs once you get your core abilities.  At least in this game you arent tab targeting. 

As for cancelling your sub and heading to GW2 or TSW.  #1, I hear TSW is trash and a slow paced game.  #2, GW2 questing is better for the most part, at least at first.  If you dont level quick enough, you'll end up doing the SAME EXACT dynamic events, over and over instead of doing a quest once.  If you do a DE once in GW2, log off, come back later, chances are you'll be doing that SAME EXACT event again.  Im not bashing GW2, but I dont think its as dynamic as people think it is.  Maybe I am playing the game wrong, which Ive never played an MMO or a game wrong, I thought there was no correctway.  But I keep doing the same dynamic events, twice or even three times before I can move into a higher lvl area.

 

Are you exploring and finding all the other things besides DEs that there are to do out there?  I only repeateded one DE between level 1 and 12 and it was because I enjoyed it.  I waited around and did it TWICE more and had a ball all 3 times.  I know I'm not very high level yet, but that's because I've found so many other things to do, like even crafting and EXPLORING.  Exploring leads into all kinds of "quests," so to speak.  You don't have to just keep repeating DEs, you just have to play the game like it's an exploration instead of the same ol' BS we've been playing for years in other games.

OP, I'm sorry to hear TERA isn't working out for you.  I hate grinding too.  If I'm going to have to grind, it had better be WELL disguised as FUN....so much so that I can't tell it's a grind at all.  I played WoW for too long to not hate grinding. I just can't do it.  I don't WANT to do the same instance 50 times or have to kill 200 raptors to get 10 raptor hearts.  No thank you.

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Originally posted by just1opinion

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Originally posted by cesmode8

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Originally posted by JudgeUK

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Originally posted by Mizzoufan

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Originally posted by butter1011 Stop doing things that you don't want to do.

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lol.

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Wise words - advice already taken with sub cancellation - roll on GW2 or Secret World ? 

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 My warrior hit 45 last night(got from 44 to 45 in one day, maybe about 2-2.5 hours of play time).  The game is not grindy for me as I mix in bams, questing, and dungeons.  As for the cut and paste models, I've seen it, I'll agree. But currently in westonia, these are new mobs.  As for the same rotation, sure.  But...that...is in..every other mmo?  wut?  It hardly changes in other MMOs once you get your core abilities.  At least in this game you arent tab targeting.  As for cancelling your sub and heading to GW2 or TSW.  #1, I hear TSW is trash and a slow paced game.  #2, GW2 questing is better for the most part, at least at first.  If you dont level quick enough, you'll end up doing the SAME EXACT dynamic events, over and over instead of doing a quest once.  If you do a DE once in GW2, log off, come back later, chances are you'll be doing that SAME EXACT event again.  Im not bashing GW2, but I dont think its as dynamic as people think it is.  Maybe I am playing the game wrong, which Ive never played an MMO or a game wrong, I thought there was no correctway.  But I keep doing the same dynamic events, twice or even three times before I can move into a higher lvl area.  

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Are you exploring and finding all the other things besides DEs that there are to do out there?  I only repeateded one DE between level 1 and 12 and it was because I enjoyed it.  I waited around and did it TWICE more and had a ball all 3 times.  I know I'm not very high level yet, but that's because I've found so many other things to do, like even crafting and EXPLORING.  Exploring leads into all kinds of "quests," so to speak.  You don't have to just keep repeating DEs, you just have to play the game like it's an exploration instead of the same ol' BS we've been playing for years in other games.

 

OP, I'm sorry to hear TERA isn't working out for you.  I hate grinding too.  If I'm going to have to grind, it had better be WELL disguised as FUN....so much so that I can't tell it's a grind at all.  I played WoW for too long to not hate grinding. I just can't do it.  I don't WANT to do the same instance 50 times or have to kill 200 raptors to get 10 raptor hearts.  No thank you.

 

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Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

Yes, instead of a quest to collect 10 raptor hearts you would much rather have a dynamic event that has a bar that fills up each time you get a raptor heart.

 

if the raptors were attacking a town and a group of us were defending it or perhaps I was escorting a caravan that was getting ravaged by them then yes yes I would... if you really compare stuff liek this to running out to find static raptors sitting in the same locations all the time and doing this over and over then well guess TERA is the game for you.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

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Originally posted by just1opinion

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Originally posted by cesmode8

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Originally posted by JudgeUK

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Originally posted by Mizzoufan

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Originally posted by butter1011 Stop doing things that you don't want to do.

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lol.

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Wise words - advice already taken with sub cancellation - roll on GW2 or Secret World ? 

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 My warrior hit 45 last night(got from 44 to 45 in one day, maybe about 2-2.5 hours of play time).  The game is not grindy for me as I mix in bams, questing, and dungeons.  As for the cut and paste models, I've seen it, I'll agree. But currently in westonia, these are new mobs.  As for the same rotation, sure.  But...that...is in..every other mmo?  wut?  It hardly changes in other MMOs once you get your core abilities.  At least in this game you arent tab targeting.  As for cancelling your sub and heading to GW2 or TSW.  #1, I hear TSW is trash and a slow paced game.  #2, GW2 questing is better for the most part, at least at first.  If you dont level quick enough, you'll end up doing the SAME EXACT dynamic events, over and over instead of doing a quest once.  If you do a DE once in GW2, log off, come back later, chances are you'll be doing that SAME EXACT event again.  Im not bashing GW2, but I dont think its as dynamic as people think it is.  Maybe I am playing the game wrong, which Ive never played an MMO or a game wrong, I thought there was no correctway.  But I keep doing the same dynamic events, twice or even three times before I can move into a higher lvl area.  

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Are you exploring and finding all the other things besides DEs that there are to do out there?  I only repeateded one DE between level 1 and 12 and it was because I enjoyed it.  I waited around and did it TWICE more and had a ball all 3 times.  I know I'm not very high level yet, but that's because I've found so many other things to do, like even crafting and EXPLORING.  Exploring leads into all kinds of "quests," so to speak.  You don't have to just keep repeating DEs, you just have to play the game like it's an exploration instead of the same ol' BS we've been playing for years in other games.

 

OP, I'm sorry to hear TERA isn't working out for you.  I hate grinding too.  If I'm going to have to grind, it had better be WELL disguised as FUN....so much so that I can't tell it's a grind at all.  I played WoW for too long to not hate grinding. I just can't do it.  I don't WANT to do the same instance 50 times or have to kill 200 raptors to get 10 raptor hearts.  No thank you.

 

 

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Yes, instead of a quest to collect 10 raptor hearts you would much rather have a dynamic event that has a bar that fills up each time you get a raptor heart.

 

Lol, I love these people that can t figure out that theres more to it then that. Static mobs roaming around in a little area, compared to, mobs attacking a town, they re slightly different. Teras quest are nothing like GW2 DEs, even if the goal is the same, it s whats involved to get there.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

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Originally posted by just1opinion

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Originally posted by cesmode8

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Originally posted by JudgeUK

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Originally posted by Mizzoufan

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Originally posted by butter1011 Stop doing things that you don't want to do.

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lol.

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Wise words - advice already taken with sub cancellation - roll on GW2 or Secret World ? 

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 My warrior hit 45 last night(got from 44 to 45 in one day, maybe about 2-2.5 hours of play time).  The game is not grindy for me as I mix in bams, questing, and dungeons.  As for the cut and paste models, I've seen it, I'll agree. But currently in westonia, these are new mobs.  As for the same rotation, sure.  But...that...is in..every other mmo?  wut?  It hardly changes in other MMOs once you get your core abilities.  At least in this game you arent tab targeting.  As for cancelling your sub and heading to GW2 or TSW.  #1, I hear TSW is trash and a slow paced game.  #2, GW2 questing is better for the most part, at least at first.  If you dont level quick enough, you'll end up doing the SAME EXACT dynamic events, over and over instead of doing a quest once.  If you do a DE once in GW2, log off, come back later, chances are you'll be doing that SAME EXACT event again.  Im not bashing GW2, but I dont think its as dynamic as people think it is.  Maybe I am playing the game wrong, which Ive never played an MMO or a game wrong, I thought there was no correctway.  But I keep doing the same dynamic events, twice or even three times before I can move into a higher lvl area.  

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Are you exploring and finding all the other things besides DEs that there are to do out there?  I only repeateded one DE between level 1 and 12 and it was because I enjoyed it.  I waited around and did it TWICE more and had a ball all 3 times.  I know I'm not very high level yet, but that's because I've found so many other things to do, like even crafting and EXPLORING.  Exploring leads into all kinds of "quests," so to speak.  You don't have to just keep repeating DEs, you just have to play the game like it's an exploration instead of the same ol' BS we've been playing for years in other games.

 

OP, I'm sorry to hear TERA isn't working out for you.  I hate grinding too.  If I'm going to have to grind, it had better be WELL disguised as FUN....so much so that I can't tell it's a grind at all.  I played WoW for too long to not hate grinding. I just can't do it.  I don't WANT to do the same instance 50 times or have to kill 200 raptors to get 10 raptor hearts.  No thank you.

 

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Yes, instead of a quest to collect 10 raptor hearts you would much rather have a dynamic event that has a bar that fills up each time you get a raptor heart.

 

Hell the fuck yes!  I would rather see the raptors charging at me, trying to kill me, than see them standing in a field waiting 1 by 1 ready to be killed.  I also love the chance that I can actually fail in pushing them back.  

The only thing I want to know is that since you played a Mystic, were you actually any good at healing?  If so, why didn't you just level through the dungeons?

And if you're not, are we supposed to actually feel bad that you're leaving?

Originally posted by cyress8

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

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Yes, instead of a quest to collect 10 raptor hearts you would much rather have a dynamic event that has a bar that fills up each time you get a raptor heart.

 

Hell the fuck yes! I would rather see the raptors charging at me, trying to kill me, than see them standing in a field waiting 1 by 1 ready to be killed. I also love the chance that I can actually fail in pushing them back.

Is there a difference? Yes.

Is it another $60 + unconfirmed release date of waiting difference? Not really.

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Well, I think Tera's levelling has finally got he better of me. Main character (mystic) is now in the low 50's and yet another reiteration of Jesters have appeared.

I levelled in Aion straight from original launch which was significantly slower than Tera, so it's not the pace of levelling - it's the sheer monotonous boredom of the whole levelling thing. 

I've mentioned the cut and paste characters before - but actually, it's not the appearance that's the main issue. It's the fact that they all do exactly the same attacks - in the same order - over and over again  - level after level.

Consequently the way you deal with these mobs reflects this. The skill progession is also geared to the cut and paste mob attacks. Repeat visits to the trainer just give the next hike in the main single and aoe skills - They could have saved you the time and trouble here and just have them autoscale.

Looking back, I have been using exactly the same mechanic on mobs for the last 40+ levels - send thrall in to group mobs - run in  - aeo - run in - aoe - run in  - aoe.............................

This looks like the first mmo where I have'nt taken at least one character to the cap lvl. Mind you, from what I'm hearing about end game, that may not be a bad thing at the moment.

 

My advice is don't try to complete the game so quick, take time and actually play the game.  In vanilla wow , it took atleast 5-6months to level my first character, I took time to explore every nook and cranny and I RP'd alot, these sort of time sinks take some of the monotany out of the grind