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OP  5/21/12 5:24:23 PM#1

Last week, ArenaNet conducted a stress test for Guild Wars 2. The object was, as with all stress tests, to try to break the servers. See what we think about what we saw during this event and then leave us your thoughts in the comments.

Last week ArenaNet had a little stress test for Guild Wars 2, and boy was it stressful. Seriously, AHHHHH! Hah ha no just kidding it wasn’t that stressful, unless you’re one of the devs. It was a nice one day event that helped both ArenaNet, and players find more issues to patch things up a bit. It wasn’t a huge event. Just think of it as them trying to find every issue that hides in the game. They weren’t looking for our opinions on balancing the professions. There were a lot of things that did come up for players, so let’s take a look at what was found.

Read more of David North's Guild Wars 2: Stress Test!

I wonder if this is what players meant by distorted.

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5/22/12 7:31:17 AM#2

The only thing you missed was 10min loading times when you went to new area or instance.


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5/22/12 7:41:41 AM#3

Sorry, but we have very different view of this stress test.

Been playing the whole first beta weekend, and about 5 of the 7 hours of the Monday stress test. The game performed and acted completely differently. In PvE there was no lag whatsoever, on 2 characteres in two different areas. I encountered no bug nor glitch. The game was just ready.

I know people on WvW had some lag still, and I don't say that they are bug free overall. But your description is missleading imho. The game is almost done.

Also when saying the next beta event is just around the corner ... do you know or speculate please?


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5/22/12 7:42:36 AM#4

Never saw a single 10 min loading screen...


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5/22/12 7:43:23 AM#5

I didn't have the issues that people were having in the first beta test anyway.  I thought stress tests were reserved till right before release? Like as a last ditch effort to find bugs. 


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5/22/12 7:46:49 AM#6
Originally posted by CodeFuzer

The only thing you missed was 10min loading times when you went to new area or instance.

lol. your pc must suck....

for me only take 5-10s to load...


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5/22/12 7:46:49 AM#7

eastcoast here cought 2.5 hrs of gaming after work- no problems.

hope next weekend beta comes soon!


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5/22/12 7:50:47 AM#8
Originally posted by CodeFuzer

The only thing you missed was 10min loading times when you went to new area or instance.

Someone needs a new computer..


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5/22/12 7:58:17 AM#9
Originally posted by RKameL
Originally posted by CodeFuzer

The only thing you missed was 10min loading times when you went to new area or instance.

Someone needs a new computer..

longest loading screen i had was under 10 secs.

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5/22/12 8:00:31 AM#10

To be fair i had one 10 min loading screen, at the very beginning of the test. Once. After that, it ran like silk.


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5/22/12 8:27:35 AM#11

I had framerate issues and problems with being locked out of certain Personal Story instances where it would get stuck loading at 95% and i would have to alt F4 and relog twice to get back to my character.  The FPS issues I had, I expected considering they didn't change any of that since the last BWE, being bound to the CPU and all, which I would like for them to immediately get away from.  My CPU is 6 years old and the one part of my computer I can't upgrade vs. the cost.  Would be better to buy a new PC, which I'm not going to do right now.  Just replaced my vid card a year ago and it should be taking the brunt of my gaming.  Really hoping Anet plans to move the processing more to GPUs.


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5/22/12 8:46:59 AM#12

Damn, I thought there is another stress test this weekend. Talking about getting my hopes up !


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5/22/12 9:07:37 AM#13

There's suppose to be a weekend event this month, but we havn't heard anything from



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5/22/12 9:53:33 AM#14

Strange i have a lowly I5 somewhat clocked,and a Rad 5770 4GIG,Win7 64bit so not exactly ninja specs,but so far i've had no lag and no real FPS drops even on virtually full settings pretty much perfect on the first Beta and noticeably better on the last, and np with loading screens either in fact the games performance surpassed all my expectaions,only problem i had was logging in on the first few hours of beta1 as the server was hammered i guess.


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5/22/12 9:57:50 AM#15

I have heard more than once a Stress test on a Monday, this should not be. But people forget we are a 24/7 world and there are still tons of people off as a regular off day on Monday's. I lacked no issues with plenty of players in my areas. This being a stress test they did set some things that did create some problems. Thus we tested. I have to agree most players are now getting the test part of what is happening on the game now. No more screaming in all chat fix this etc etc was nice people talking about what they where running into all of us posting tickets. I always look at these test as getting us a game we will not feel stressed over when it releases :-P

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5/22/12 9:58:08 AM#16
Originally posted by darker70

Strange i have a lowly I5 somewhat clocked,and a Rad 5770 4GIG,Win7 64bit so not exactly ninja specs,but so far i've had no lag and no real FPS drops even on virtually full settings pretty much perfect on the first Beta and noticeably better on the last, and np with loading screens either in fact the games performance surpassed all my expectaions,only problem i had was logging in on the first few hours of beta1 as the server was hammered i guess.

Anything less that 65 FPS is a drop in framerates, so your idea of FPS drops and mine are obviously pretty far apart.


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5/22/12 10:01:23 AM#17

The only time i experienced any loading times was the final 30min when it took me 30min to load into Divinity's Reach. 


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5/22/12 10:06:57 AM#18
Originally posted by Alandar

There's suppose to be a weekend event this month, but we havn't heard anything from


They've stated on numerous occasions (mostly on their official forums, Twitter and Facebook) that they're AIMING for ROUGHLY 1 BWE per month but that it's subject to change. There's also a recent post on facebook which is discussed and linked here


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5/22/12 10:15:56 AM#19
Originally posted by CodeFuzer

The only thing you missed was 10min loading times when you went to new area or instance.

 you should check your PC. Gw1 and 2 have the fastest loading screens I've seen in any game.


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5/22/12 10:31:35 AM#20

After the last BWE folks were indeed raging. I put that down to game studios over the years slowly deceiving us as to what BETA actually means. This was an actual test of the game with feedback and details from players wanted. The "work in progress" logo over all the cut scenes was a nice touch and kind of brought it home. Once players adjusted their thinking they became a lot more helpful and much less childish.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

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