Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Charlizzard

Originally posted by Four0Six

Originally posted by RKameL

They may not do one next weekend and do 2 at next month for example.

What i think that is clear is that it wont be released on June.. And not even July imo.

You have stumbled on what I see as a "dirty little secret", GW2 is waaaaay further out than "we'd" like to believe.

 

What I got from the FB post is that the next BWE will be in June, and then there will be another in July, yadda yadda. -If- they can ANET will get more BWEs in but 1 a month seems to be the goal.

 

Just think of all the anticipation for GW2 under the X-Mas tree 2012. (sarcastic poke, don't take it personally)

I can not imagine that they would begin taking pre-purchases on 4/10 with an expectation of an 8+ month wait. The backlash would be fierce to say the least. I imagine late summer, beginning of fall release at the latest.

If this does come to pass, I would be expecting an extraordinarily refined product, which I suppose is preferable to a product being released before it is complete, which seems to be the latest industry trend.

Aw c'mon, the fanbase for GW2 is more than willing to bend over and take it, and ANET knows it.  Even if some folks cancel their pre-order, they'll be back come launch so ANET can afford to release it on their schedule.

 

Probably not a good idea to judge all fans based on vocal and generally irrational minority.

I can wait for release I got Diablo 3 and TSW soon so I can wait. :)

The week before and after Memorial Day are big vacation weeks in the US. I just don't see it happening until June 2nd.. but would guess June 9th.

I also find it very strange that anyone would be irrationally upset about the game being delayed until it was ready for release... but then I often have to remind myself that there's no age requirement for posting on the enter nets.

To be honest, while I'd like a bit more beta time to test things I haven't tested yet, what I'm waiting for now is a release date. Playing temporary characters that will be erased is good for a time, but now that I've played the game, what I really want is my final characters, so that I can start to play "seriously".

So... beta week end? Good. No beta week end? No big deal either, just work hard and give me the final version.

D3 down. Reading GW2 Posts and watching GW2 videos. My life is a mess.

I think they'll announce a beta weekend this week for the 1st of June and I also have a release date estimate of between late July and early august.

I doubt ANet would want to compete with MoP at the end of the year. And the longer they wait the higher appetatite NCSoft has for sales. I doubt we will see release later than the end of September.

And there won't be BWE this weekend for 100%.

They should at least know when their employees go on vacation and when it's good timing to support BWEs. I can't believe they don't know whether there is going to be one this month, that would just show a badly organized company. Just say so, if there is not going to be one and people will accept it. This whole beating around the bush is unprofessional.

Originally posted by IPolygon

They should at least know when their employees go on vacation and when it's good timing to support BWEs. I can't believe they don't know whether there is going to be one this month, that would just show a badly organized company. Just say so, if there is not going to be one and people will accept it. This whole beating around the bush is unprofessional.

It makes more sense to say when there actually is one than to say each week that there isn't.

Also not having one and not being able to state when there'll be one has nothing to do with the company being badly organised. They want to have some changes in place before the next BWE and have solved the biggest / most annoying issues because else folks will start complaining that nothing has changed and they don't see any progress at all. As long as the minimum of these changes they definitely want in before the next BWE aren't near to ready they won't be able to set a definite date for the next BWE because it's extremely hard to estimate how long some things will take to develop if you don't know yet what the solution is going to be; especially on such short time schedule as aiming for 1 per month.

The when will they release thread has been done before and I got to go with the stats.  Average time between prerelease and release, at most, has been 4 months. 

Games that launch in july and august have horrible sales and is something that game companies attempt to stay away from. 

So with this, their best bet would be to either launch in June or Launch in September/october.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Y7ScfaVHs

Originally posted by Jyiiga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Y7ScfaVHs

LMAO... true, so very true!

I think this thread has been a bounce and a bounce. They did not give any expectation to when they would launch when they offered the pre-order for release date. The promised access to Beta Events not how many or how often. They did give  us the post with we will try to have 1 a month and a stress when they stated they could almost 100% say there would not be one this weekend.  That is the closest we have come to what and how often since this has begun. Thus no matter what we think, would like, or have set as our on expectation not one Pre-Purchase did so with any promises of these date. Like everyone else, I do want a released game, as much time in game as possible. I also feel anything longer that Sept Release concidering we have paid for the game would be not good at all for A-net simply because they took early payment for the game.  But knowing how strong they are on customer satisfation, they have all this in mind as well. We will just have to wait and see. As to those that have life issues and want a late release I have to laugh, if you can not take care of your life if a game to paly is there then you need to not but anything until you can keep up. 

Originally posted by lilHeala

Originally posted by IPolygon

They should at least know when their employees go on vacation and when it's good timing to support BWEs. I can't believe they don't know whether there is going to be one this month, that would just show a badly organized company. Just say so, if there is not going to be one and people will accept it. This whole beating around the bush is unprofessional.

It makes more sense to say when there actually is one than to say each week that there isn't.

Also not having one and not being able to state when there'll be one has nothing to do with the company being badly organised. They want to have some changes in place before the next BWE and have solved the biggest / most annoying issues because else folks will start complaining that nothing has changed and they don't see any progress at all. As long as the minimum of these changes they definitely want in before the next BWE aren't near to ready they won't be able to set a definite date for the next BWE because it's extremely hard to estimate how long some things will take to develop if you don't know yet what the solution is going to be; especially on such short time schedule as aiming for 1 per month.

You missed the point. They could easily say that there won't be a BWE this month, when they don't know how or when they will solve a couple of issues. They are beating around the bush when it comes to definite answers, this is fact. And they have been asked whether there is going to be one this week. Just outright say that you cannot do something, it's better than answering in 3 vague paragraphs.

Originally posted by IPolygon

Originally posted by lilHeala

Originally posted by IPolygon

They should at least know when their employees go on vacation and when it's good timing to support BWEs. I can't believe they don't know whether there is going to be one this month, that would just show a badly organized company. Just say so, if there is not going to be one and people will accept it. This whole beating around the bush is unprofessional.

It makes more sense to say when there actually is one than to say each week that there isn't.

Also not having one and not being able to state when there'll be one has nothing to do with the company being badly organised. They want to have some changes in place before the next BWE and have solved the biggest / most annoying issues because else folks will start complaining that nothing has changed and they don't see any progress at all. As long as the minimum of these changes they definitely want in before the next BWE aren't near to ready they won't be able to set a definite date for the next BWE because it's extremely hard to estimate how long some things will take to develop if you don't know yet what the solution is going to be; especially on such short time schedule as aiming for 1 per month.

You missed the point. They could easily say that there won't be a BWE this month, when they don't know how or when they will solve a couple of issues. They are beating around the bush when it comes to definite answers, this is fact. And they have been asked whether there is going to be one this week. Just outright say that you cannot do something, it's better than answering in 3 vague paragraphs.

Yeah, this is what bothers me about the communications policies the company enforces. What is the point of not being willing to just come right out and say "We won't be having a BWE this month", assuming they know that there won't be one this month? Why rely on a facebook post to, as you say, beat around the bush, when a "non-dancey dance" announcement would have served everyone much better?

Don't they realize that many people need to plan ahead to ensure they have a clear schedule for these events? The (roughly) once a month time schedule just makes it an even bigger hassle if you aren't able to plan ahead to make a particular event. You can't just write a missed weekend off with the knowledge that you'll have another shot in a week or two. If you miss a WBE, it might be five or more weeks until the next one!

By not coming right out and ruling out a weekend publically, as soon as they have ruled it out internally, they freeze people in place and force people who need to make arrangements for free time, in advance, to make those adjustments based on a "best guess".

It really comes off as a pathelogical inability to just be straight with the facts and once a company earns a reputation for slipperiness, it's hard to break it. The real shame is that the game lives up to the expectations surrounding it, which makes the obtuse communication strategy painfully unnecassary!

This is not the fault of the CMs, who are the mouthpieces for the company. I often get a sense that they find the contortions they are forced into as painful as we do and I'm sure it produces a great amount of stress for everyone involved.

Next weekend considering the last one was on the weekend of April the 27th? I really so no reason to bash anet for no bwe this weekend.

What do you mean possibly? It isn't going to happen. Memorial Day weekend folks. Like I said when this topic was brought up early last week they aren't going to have their people testing through the holiday weekend. Wouldn't be even a good weekend for players because many will be out of town, camping, celebrating, etc. Not viable from either perspective.

Probably have something the week after though. :P

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

What do you mean possibly? It isn't going to happen. Memorial Day weekend folks. Like I said when this topic was brought up early last week they aren't going to have their people testing through the holiday weekend. Wouldn't be even a good weekend for players because many will be out of town, camping, celebrating, etc. Not viable from either perspective.

Probably have something the week after though. :P

I couldn't care less about Memorial Day, since I'm not from the US. The same happens in Europe and the rest of the world (after all, it is a global launch). I wouldn't be surprised if the company crunches during the holiday for the final sprint towards release.

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

What do you mean possibly? It isn't going to happen. Memorial Day weekend folks. Like I said when this topic was brought up early last week they aren't going to have their people testing through the holiday weekend. Wouldn't be even a good weekend for players because many will be out of town, camping, celebrating, etc. Not viable from either perspective.

Probably have something the week after though. :P

I couldn't care less about Memorial Day, since I'm not from the US. The same happens in Europe and the rest of the world (after all, it is a global launch). I wouldn't be surprised if the company crunches during the holiday for the final sprint towards release.

I agree with you that this sort of thing sucks, but most companies from the US seem to follow these holidays even if the game is global. I'm not in the BWE so it doesn't affect me, but I guess it is preety annoying for people who prepurchased and have to follow these "rules" even if they're not from the US.