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OP  5/20/12 3:20:05 PM#1

I'm more of a classic RPG-player than an ARPG:er, so D1 and D2 was just so so to me. However, I do quit enjoy Torchlight and I really did like the skill trees of D2 (I know they are gone now).

But how does D3 compare to Torchlight? Pluses, minuses? Trying to find out for myself if it's worth to shell out 60 euros on this or not...

  RebelScum99

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5/20/12 3:30:19 PM#2

Well, if you enjoyed Torchlight more than D1 and D2, and also enjoy skill trees, then chances are you will prefer T2 to D3.  I've played both games, and I far and away prefer D3, as I think it's a better game.  But some of that has to do with the fact that it feels like Diablo through and through, so it has that history behind it. If you aren't as impressed with the first two Diablos, chances are you won't be blown away by this one.  

So the safe bet for you would be to probably stick with T2, although a good idea would be to pick up a guest pass from someone who bought a box version of D3 and try it out for yourself.  

  EndDream

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5/20/12 3:34:34 PM#3
To day torchlight 1 is better than d3 is delusional.

Remember Old School Ultima Online

  syklonis

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5/20/12 3:42:45 PM#4
Originally posted by RebelScum99

Well, if you enjoyed Torchlight more than D1 and D2, and also enjoy skill trees, then chances are you will prefer T2 to D3.  I've played both games, and I far and away prefer D3, as I think it's a better game.  But some of that has to do with the fact that it feels like Diablo through and through, so it has that history behind it. If you aren't as impressed with the first two Diablos, chances are you won't be blown away by this one.  

So the safe bet for you would be to probably stick with T2, although a good idea would be to pick up a guest pass from someone who bought a box version of D3 and try it out for yourself.  

Curious as to how you can think D3 is like D1/D2 through and through?  Besides its' visual look, everything else so far seems to be done better in Torchlight 2.  But that's me...

  Fuggly

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5/20/12 3:45:40 PM#5

torchlight seemed like something my 5 year old would play when i looked at it. whats the draw to it? I don't see how it could even come close to diable in any form.

  krea

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5/20/12 3:45:47 PM#6

While i enjoy the genre in total and own torchlight 1 and 2 and diablo 3 i realy feel diablo 3 is the better of them all . Not sure why but you feel the blizzard polish in diablo 3 even if it sticks with the old familiar hack and slash and doesnt realy inovate . I did play bit of torchlight 2 beta and it did have some points that where stronger tho in total i do like diablo 3 more not sure if its little things like sounds , birds flying around or the responsive combat .

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OP  5/20/12 3:51:40 PM#7
Originally posted by Fuggly

torchlight seemed like something my 5 year old would play when i looked at it. whats the draw to it? I don't see how it could even come close to diable in any form.

Agreed, the graphics of Torchlight is its biggest minus to me!

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OP  5/20/12 3:54:12 PM#8
Originally posted by krea

While i enjoy the genre in total and own torchlight 1 and 2 and diablo 3 i realy feel diablo 3 is the better of them all . Not sure why but you feel the blizzard polish in diablo 3 even if it sticks with the old familiar hack and slash and doesnt realy inovate . I did play bit of torchlight 2 beta and it did have some points that where stronger tho in total i do like diablo 3 more not sure if its little things like sounds , birds flying around or the responsive combat .

Let me ask you this then, when you don't get to choose skills etc. in D3, doesn't that take away from your involvement of your character? Seems very little rpg not being able to choose what skills/spells you want to specialize in, or doesn't that matter to those of you who like D3?

Trying to establish what makes it tick, so to speak :)

  EndDream

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5/20/12 3:59:46 PM#9
Originally posted by OBK1
Originally posted by krea

While i enjoy the genre in total and own torchlight 1 and 2 and diablo 3 i realy feel diablo 3 is the better of them all . Not sure why but you feel the blizzard polish in diablo 3 even if it sticks with the old familiar hack and slash and doesnt realy inovate . I did play bit of torchlight 2 beta and it did have some points that where stronger tho in total i do like diablo 3 more not sure if its little things like sounds , birds flying around or the responsive combat .

Let me ask you this then, when you don't get to choose skills etc. in D3, doesn't that take away from your involvement of your character? Seems very little rpg not being able to choose what skills/spells you want to specialize in, or doesn't that matter to those of you who like D3?

Trying to establish what makes it tick, so to speak :)

 

Diablo 2 and it clones largely had the illusion of choice. Most choices just gimped your character. In d3 you can't gimp your character and have the option to change up it's play style completely on the fly. You just get to experience a lot more customized gameplay in d3 and you don't have to fear using a skill you think is fun ruining your character.

Remember Old School Ultima Online

  Enforcer71

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5/20/12 4:29:57 PM#10
Originally posted by EndDream
Originally posted by OBK1
Originally posted by krea

While i enjoy the genre in total and own torchlight 1 and 2 and diablo 3 i realy feel diablo 3 is the better of them all . Not sure why but you feel the blizzard polish in diablo 3 even if it sticks with the old familiar hack and slash and doesnt realy inovate . I did play bit of torchlight 2 beta and it did have some points that where stronger tho in total i do like diablo 3 more not sure if its little things like sounds , birds flying around or the responsive combat .

Let me ask you this then, when you don't get to choose skills etc. in D3, doesn't that take away from your involvement of your character? Seems very little rpg not being able to choose what skills/spells you want to specialize in, or doesn't that matter to those of you who like D3?

Trying to establish what makes it tick, so to speak :)

 

Diablo 2 and it clones largely had the illusion of choice. Most choices just gimped your character. In d3 you can't gimp your character and have the option to change up it's play style completely on the fly. You just get to experience a lot more customized gameplay in d3 and you don't have to fear using a skill you think is fun ruining your character.

This is very true and in turn allows me to play exactly how i want without feeling gimped or unusuable.

Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
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OP  5/20/12 4:35:55 PM#11

Thanks for all the replies, been helpful!

  Loke666

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5/20/12 4:41:25 PM#12
Originally posted by OBK1

Let me ask you this then, when you don't get to choose skills etc. in D3, doesn't that take away from your involvement of your character? Seems very little rpg not being able to choose what skills/spells you want to specialize in, or doesn't that matter to those of you who like D3?

Trying to establish what makes it tick, so to speak :)

RPG never really were the focus of the Diablo games. I remember playing D1 and Baldurs gate at the same period in the late 90s, D1 to get some dungeonhacking done and BG for thr RP.

If you want a RPG you might consider something like ME instead.

  RebelScum99

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5/20/12 4:44:14 PM#13
Originally posted by syklonis
Originally posted by RebelScum99

Well, if you enjoyed Torchlight more than D1 and D2, and also enjoy skill trees, then chances are you will prefer T2 to D3.  I've played both games, and I far and away prefer D3, as I think it's a better game.  But some of that has to do with the fact that it feels like Diablo through and through, so it has that history behind it. If you aren't as impressed with the first two Diablos, chances are you won't be blown away by this one.  

So the safe bet for you would be to probably stick with T2, although a good idea would be to pick up a guest pass from someone who bought a box version of D3 and try it out for yourself.  

Curious as to how you can think D3 is like D1/D2 through and through?  Besides its' visual look, everything else so far seems to be done better in Torchlight 2.  But that's me...

Aside from the change in skill progression, I don't understand how anyone would view D3 as anything OTHER than the natural progression of the Diablo series.   Torchlight 2 looks and feels more like WoW than anything resembling Diablo.  

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OP  5/20/12 4:45:16 PM#14

ME being Mass Effect? Liked the first one not that impressed by the second one. To be honest mostly playing Vanguard at the moment, but need something different now and then.

  romanator0

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5/20/12 4:47:43 PM#15
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by syklonis
Originally posted by RebelScum99

Well, if you enjoyed Torchlight more than D1 and D2, and also enjoy skill trees, then chances are you will prefer T2 to D3.  I've played both games, and I far and away prefer D3, as I think it's a better game.  But some of that has to do with the fact that it feels like Diablo through and through, so it has that history behind it. If you aren't as impressed with the first two Diablos, chances are you won't be blown away by this one.  

So the safe bet for you would be to probably stick with T2, although a good idea would be to pick up a guest pass from someone who bought a box version of D3 and try it out for yourself.  

Curious as to how you can think D3 is like D1/D2 through and through?  Besides its' visual look, everything else so far seems to be done better in Torchlight 2.  But that's me...

Aside from the change in skill progression, I don't understand how anyone would view D3 as anything OTHER than the natural progression of the Diablo series.   Torchlight 2 looks and feels more like WoW than anything resembling Diablo.  

Having played both Torchlight 2 and WoW, you really need to stop pulling things like this out of your ass. Torchlight 2 feels and plays nothing like WoW does and no person who has any amount of intelligence at all can say it does.

  Loke666

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5/20/12 4:48:54 PM#16
Originally posted by OBK1

ME being Mass Effect? Liked the first one not that impressed by the second one. To be honest mostly playing Vanguard at the moment, but need something different now and then.

It was just one example, Skyrim or whatever works fine as well.

Dungeonhacks like Diablo are about killing stuff, and maybe getting some loot.

  User Deleted
 
OP  5/20/12 4:53:59 PM#17
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by OBK1

ME being Mass Effect? Liked the first one not that impressed by the second one. To be honest mostly playing Vanguard at the moment, but need something different now and then.

It was just one example, Skyrim or whatever works fine as well.

Dungeonhacks like Diablo are about killing stuff, and maybe getting some loot.

Indeed...Skyrim was the game that got me back to Vanguard...

I'm just jaded and spoiled. Very tempted to buy D3 but 60 euros is a lot to ask for a game!

  huskie77

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5/20/12 4:54:27 PM#18

I wish there was some way to keep  people who only experienced the beta of D3 from telling others what it's like. It has been said a million times that the full game of D3 is much more challenging and complex than the beta even hinted at. It was a bad move by Blizzard, but still, stop talking out your asses. Also, we have no idea what the final TL2  product will be like but I'm sure it will be great.

  FrodoFragins

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5/20/12 4:59:10 PM#19
Originally posted by Enforcer71
Originally posted by EndDream
Originally posted by OBK1
Originally posted by krea

While i enjoy the genre in total and own torchlight 1 and 2 and diablo 3 i realy feel diablo 3 is the better of them all . Not sure why but you feel the blizzard polish in diablo 3 even if it sticks with the old familiar hack and slash and doesnt realy inovate . I did play bit of torchlight 2 beta and it did have some points that where stronger tho in total i do like diablo 3 more not sure if its little things like sounds , birds flying around or the responsive combat .

Let me ask you this then, when you don't get to choose skills etc. in D3, doesn't that take away from your involvement of your character? Seems very little rpg not being able to choose what skills/spells you want to specialize in, or doesn't that matter to those of you who like D3?

Trying to establish what makes it tick, so to speak :)

 

Diablo 2 and it clones largely had the illusion of choice. Most choices just gimped your character. In d3 you can't gimp your character and have the option to change up it's play style completely on the fly. You just get to experience a lot more customized gameplay in d3 and you don't have to fear using a skill you think is fun ruining your character.

This is very true and in turn allows me to play exactly how i want without feeling gimped or unusuable.

As with D2, the number of viable builds is limited when you first hit hell and now inferno.

  Racheloflite

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5/20/12 5:18:39 PM#20

Ok first off, everyone has there right to what they want to say about this game, and I respect that. BUT someone tell me how D3 after spending 60 bucks can convince me that D3 is worth that much when no matter what class you play its the same ending for everything. Ok so you beat it in normal, ok so you beat it on Hell, ok so ya beat in in Inferno, now what ya going to play the *real* money AH to try and get your 60 bucks back, lets face it thats a joke in itself. Now I have tried TL2 and *watched* on D3 on some twitch TV sites and sorry I'm not buying how D3 convinces me to send 60 bucks over 20 for other then graphics and story are somewhat the same game. Yes D3 has an edge to it and yes its blizzard but come on 60 bucks for no change in story. SO like I said someone convince me 60 bucks is worth D3 when someone does that then I'll explain why I feel TL2 is in my books a better game for the price.

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