Originally posted by deziwright

Originally posted by trenshod

Originally posted by deziwright

seriously when did questing become pve? it didnt. you dont like the rpg in it. the pve is combat, get it right.

and thanks for telling me when ill be bored of this amazing game. silly posters.

LoL why even bother posting your comment is fail from start to finish. Do you even know what PvE stands for?

player vs environment which means a player fighting the environment/enemies. PvE does not mean quests. Roleplaying is questing. Aka story. You are now informed. You are welcome.

PvE doesnt mean quest obvious (GW2 is a prove of that) but on Tera, quest is a huge part of PvE.

 so for you PvE just mean combat? lol. PvE is far from be combat only...you can have the better combat system and have a bad PvE system...

Originally posted by trenshod

I do believe at least in 100% of the mmos that I play that questing and run ins with the environment go hand in hand. Matter of fact there are quest believe it or not that have you kill mobs in the environment. You really can't seperate the two seeing that one is dependent upon the other.

If you have proof otherwise please educate me on how you leveled from 1-## without killing mobs in a quest.

But if you look at most pre-WoW games most of them don't have much quest if any at all....

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

PvE doesnt mean quest obvious (GW2 is a prove of that) but on Tera, quest is a huge part of PvE.

 so for you PvE just mean combat? lol. PvE is far from be combat only...you can have the better combat system and have a bad PvE system...

Wait what? GW2 PvE is all about quest, DE are just public quest they are still quest just delivered in different ways. If anything its the Pre-WoW games that prove it.

the more primitive then wow vanilla quests are starting to bother me too, lvl 33 now (and there's no dungeon at this lvl ._.). Regardless if the game was good or bad I would have unsubbed the first thing I did because I don't like having that shit on automatic (what if i go into a 10 year coma!)

Originally posted by seiiya

Originally posted by mWo4life

 

 

 

First of all, to be clear, I don't regret spending $50 on TERA and I still would recommend to try the game is someone asked me. It think this is a very good game.

 

 

 

 

So why I unsubscribed? Its difficult to say, but I think TERA is good in small dosage. I guess I was playing too much, and just yesterday I started thinking "Oh god, again killing 10 of something"

 

then u should stop playing mmos in overall cause if u think that will change ANYTIME soon then keep dreaming buddy

mmos are all about kills,craft,exploration and grind for gear

 

and dont mention that gw2 warhammer-rift clone it does the exact same thing from lvl1 to 80 but with DE

You are wrong, TERA quest system is just a bored repetitive grinfest, all the quest looks the same. like AION or any other Korean MMO. But not all the MMOS are like that, i mean u have options to level up so the grind is not a big deal, games like war or rift have alternatives ways to level up, you can PvP, do Pqs or DE. Even games like LOtro have alternatives, and the story is just amazing so you dont feel ¨the grind¨, and we know about swtor, people qq alot about that game, but you have alternatives to level up, and well they have an story for every single quest, so when u are killing 10x is probably a bonus mission and not the main quest, and still you can just do pvp and ur personal story or even some space quests.Now With tera, is all about grind, you have to do the same quest from level 1 till 60, the same quest, literally, and you dont have alternatives like xp for pvp or something, is all about grind the same quest for 60 levels. 

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

PvE doesnt mean quest obvious (GW2 is a prove of that) but on Tera, quest is a huge part of PvE.

 so for you PvE just mean combat? lol. PvE is far from be combat only...you can have the better combat system and have a bad PvE system...

Wait what? GW2 PvE is all about quest, DE are just public quest they are still quest just delivered in different ways. If anything its the Pre-WoW games that prove it.

Actually your part right... however the definitive questing tradition is you talk to someone and their asking you to do stuff for them or aquire a certain thing.  In GW2 I could be just roaming around and get suprised by something in that area and THEN the event triggers...thus PVE gets expanded into a wider area because you literally are fighting the environment as you encounter it.

Originally posted by deziwright

Originally posted by trenshod

Originally posted by deziwright

seriously when did questing become pve? it didnt. you dont like the rpg in it. the pve is combat, get it right.

and thanks for telling me when ill be bored of this amazing game. silly posters.

LoL why even bother posting your comment is fail from start to finish. Do you even know what PvE stands for?

player vs environment which means a player fighting the environment/enemies. PvE does not mean quests. Roleplaying is questing. Aka story. You are now informed. You are welcome.

Hm, are you sure that "role playing" is just a story? I think "role playing" is a little bigger that then just that.

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Originally posted by RoninOkami

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Originally posted by rexzshadow

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Originally posted by p_c_sousa PvE doesnt mean quest obvious (GW2 is a prove of that) but on Tera, quest is a huge part of PvE.  so for you PvE just mean combat? lol. PvE is far from be combat only...you can have the better combat system and have a bad PvE system...

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Wait what? GW2 PvE is all about quest, DE are just public quest they are still quest just delivered in different ways. If anything its the Pre-WoW games that prove it.

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Actually your part right... however the definitive questing tradition is you talk to someone and their asking you to do stuff for them or aquire a certain thing.  In GW2 I could be just roaming around and get suprised by something in that area and THEN the event triggers...thus PVE gets expanded into a wider area because you literally are fighting the environment as you encounter it.

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There static spawn points, soon enough you will become aware of them them and could even camp them to trigger certain quests.

Originally posted by seiiya

Originally posted by mWo4life

 

 

 

First of all, to be clear, I don't regret spending $50 on TERA and I still would recommend to try the game is someone asked me. It think this is a very good game.

 

 

 

 

So why I unsubscribed? Its difficult to say, but I think TERA is good in small dosage. I guess I was playing too much, and just yesterday I started thinking "Oh god, again killing 10 of something"

 

then u should stop playing mmos in overall cause if u think that will change ANYTIME soon then keep dreaming buddy

mmos are all about kills,craft,exploration and grind for gear

 

and dont mention that gw2 warhammer-rift clone it does the exact same thing from lvl1 to 80 but with DE

GW2 dynamic events are nothing like kill 10 rat quests found in Tera..  It's completely different.  A lot of the events don't even involve real fighting or gathering.  They have mechanics specific only to that event.  The DE's that do involve killing set up more like a battle, with an enemy horde moving to a location and starting to kill the local npcs.  GW2 is hyped to hell because they aren't about gear grind and they aren't about kill 10 rats.  For structued PVP you can pick whatever gear you want. 

Originally posted by Sovrath

I can see Tera being somewhat lackluster at this point in time for people who are on pve servers and gung ho about leveling for the sake of leveling and then "end game content".

If one is the type of person who can keep themselves entertained then it can be a good game. For those who are the type of person who is prone to "ok, what else do you have" then it might be lackluster on the pve side.

 

QFT, I can't say this enough. I've cleared my quest log completely at least 4-5 times now full of extra quests I don't need or care for.

I follow the story while doing dungeons and I do a few quests here and there to keep up, with PvP on the side as well as socializing. You don't have to bore yourself. :)

Same here.

Yesterday I hit 46 and I realized that i am simply TIRED of killing 20 wolves and collecting 4 treasures. Every time I come upon an outpost now I shudder because I know exactly what will follow: exclamation marks with bam quests, collection quests and kill 20 of every enemy type outside the outpost" 

TSW has far more inventive quests. Hell, even D&D online had so many gems!

I love the graphics, combat system and lots of other things, but I am sorry it is a GRIND and from 1 to 46 I was doing EXACTLY the same thing. Even SWTOR didn't evoke that feeling in me because at least it had a nice story.

We can complain all we want that story makes an mmo more like sp and it sucks and bla bla, but TERA has no story. I never even read a single quest because its just so boring and uninteresting. None of it makes sense so I just accept and turn in the quests hoping maybe the next quest will bring with it something more interesting. Won't happen. 

The game is content in washing you with the same quest repeated ad infinitum.

You're just making it boring by doing every single quest and failing to spice it up in between quests.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Originally posted by Sovrath

I can see Tera being somewhat lackluster at this point in time for people who are on pve servers and gung ho about leveling for the sake of leveling and then "end game content".

If one is the type of person who can keep themselves entertained then it can be a good game. For those who are the type of person who is prone to "ok, what else do you have" then it might be lackluster on the pve side.

 

 

QFT, I can't say this enough. I've cleared my quest log completely at least 4-5 times now full of extra quests I don't need or care for.

 

I follow the story while doing dungeons and I do a few quests here and there to keep up, with PvP on the side as well as socializing. You don't have to bore yourself. :)

I want the achievement no matter what! This is not an option :p

Originally posted by seiiya

Originally posted by mWo4life

First of all, to be clear, I don't regret spending $50 on TERA and I still would recommend to try the game is someone asked me. It think this is a very good game.

 

So why I unsubscribed? Its difficult to say, but I think TERA is good in small dosage. I guess I was playing too much, and just yesterday I started thinking "Oh god, again killing 10 of something"

 

then u should stop playing mmos in overall cause if u think that will change ANYTIME soon then keep dreaming buddy

mmos are all about kills,craft,exploration and grind for gear

and dont mention that gw2 warhammer-rift clone it does the exact same thing from lvl1 to 80 but with DE

While that is true, Tera is a bit worse then many other MMOs quest wise. For some reason do korean devs love killing 10 rats.

And if you tried GW2 you would know that your rant is wrong, besides having nothing to do in the discussion here at all.

Tera is not a bad game, but the quests and story is it's greatest flaw. Fortunatley is that still easy to fix for the expansions and later content but the devs need to hear that it is the part they need to put their focus on.

All developers are deathly afraid of defying convention, especially eastern ones.

This game has diverted from what they are used to enough with the combat, I doubt they will ever ditch the comfort associated with "kill 10 rats" as well.

Can we make it "kill ten trees" instead, there's no rats man. Lol.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by seiiya

Originally posted by mWo4life

First of all, to be clear, I don't regret spending $50 on TERA and I still would recommend to try the game is someone asked me. It think this is a very good game.

 

So why I unsubscribed? Its difficult to say, but I think TERA is good in small dosage. I guess I was playing too much, and just yesterday I started thinking "Oh god, again killing 10 of something"

 

then u should stop playing mmos in overall cause if u think that will change ANYTIME soon then keep dreaming buddy

mmos are all about kills,craft,exploration and grind for gear

and dont mention that gw2 warhammer-rift clone it does the exact same thing from lvl1 to 80 but with DE

While that is true, Tera is a bit worse then many other MMOs quest wise. For some reason do korean devs love killing 10 rats.

And if you tried GW2 you would know that your rant is wrong, besides having nothing to do in the discussion here at all.

Tera is not a bad game, but the quests and story is it's greatest flaw. Fortunatley is that still easy to fix for the expansions and later content but the devs need to hear that it is the part they need to put their focus on.

really hope TERA adds more variety into the questing, also if the end game fleshes out a bit more I may buy it but for now I just don't see it worth playing for me... and what I put in red is so wrong in so many ways I don't know where to start...

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Can we make it "kill ten trees" instead, there's no rats man. Lol.

It is kinda a MMO insider joke. Meridian 59s first quest was to go out in the moat and kill 10 rats and many other games have followed on that. M59 was the first MMO so it was kinda the first MMO quest ever.

I mean you don't really work for FEDEX in a FEDEX quest either, we just use names that people get. :)

Originally posted by Loke666

Tera is not a bad game, but the quests and story is it's greatest flaw.

TERA's biggest draw is the combat system, I personally after suffering through SWTOR's 'Story Story Story' driven MMO I could care less about what the quest log says. The combat system is fun, endgame will hash itself out one way or another in the fairly short term. I'm patient enough to wait for it before making my final determination.