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General Discussion  » Don't go by Total Biscuit's completely misinformed review/rant of D3

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  jondifool

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5/17/12 3:08:55 AM#41
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by jondifool
Originally posted by SuperXero89

"People took DAYS off work to play this game, and as a result of Blizzard's decisions, they're not able to do so!"  So, I'm annoyed on behalf of them.  It is, in fact, possible to feel empathy for people folks, it really is."

Jesus, really?  He feels empathy for mature adults who called in sick from work to stay at home to play a video game?  This is just a mere sample of the sensationalist bandwagon jumping nonsense he hops on every now and again that I can only assume is a mad grab for channel views.  It really goes to show you what an absolute fool the man is.

if thats what you got from listen to his mailbox, i think he could learn you something about empathy ;) .

I find that i agreed with most of what he said. And i would than OP for directing me to his mailbox. 

It's a quote lifted directly from the video.  I'm not sure what else I was supposed to get.

to take days off work does it means that you have to call in sick? What about making a deal with your boss, having the right to take some days off. Legit reasons ?

I think you are interpretating it in a way that shows lack of empathy. I find that he adress the situation with a legit concern, where you for some reason are so angry at him that you are willing to see the people he is talking about a cheaters in their worksituation to make TB look stupid.  That is lack of empathy.

read how to create a succesfull mmo before posting about GW2. And read tao of ArenaNet before talking about innovation in GW2

  Ichmen

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5/17/12 3:10:47 AM#42

if you actually listen to the rant about D3 in the link you would hear him talk about how horrible the online 24/7DRM system is. and how it only hurts the legit users. 

i recall UBI using a similar DRM for their settlers game.. and it was cracked in 24hrs after their pompus press about how it will never be cracked ect ect... 

the fact D3 is a single player game with coop i do not get the reason to have it online 24/7. when i played D2 i never had any reason to have it online 24/7.. it sounds to me like the DRM is put there just to fk with the legit users who wanted D3..

blizzard put the crap in place to limit people actually using the game for what they wish. as well no one ever thinks about later on when the game is no longer profitable and blizzard pulls the plug... if they have all your data.. that means it goes to the trash can in the sky...their data.. their choice what to do with the server files... tatta good bye mrs D3 pie.. 

 

i also like how all the counter points againts the video never touched on the queue for a SP game >>" that just takes the cake. its like loading up farmvile on FB and having a queue to get on it.. or trying to play minesweeper on windows and getting a queue.. completely and totally retarded.

 

while i dont always agree with his point of views on games... (they are his thoughts and feelings not mine..) i do have to agree inpart on alot of what he said on this D3 junk that is going on right now.

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  LizardEgypt

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Hmm ?

5/17/12 3:11:26 AM#43

OP is butthurt that 75% of PC gamers aren't all casual scrubs that drool over Diablo 3.

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Previous games - SWG, World of Warcraft, ShadowBane, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Planetside Asheron's Call, Everquest, Everquest 2, Too many.

  Aori

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5/17/12 3:12:31 AM#44
Originally posted by LizardEgypt

OP is butthurt that 75% of PC gamers aren't all casual scrubs that drool over Diablo 3.

...i think you may have got that statistic reversed.

  NeoZcar2

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5/17/12 3:12:47 AM#45

For some reason the OPs rant on TB seems to be more about venting his frustration over the general negative view of Diablo 3 community wide then it does about TB's credibility as a game reviewer. 

Typically TB has pretty much spot on reviews and even stays on topic when the game obviously isnt his cup of tea. He doesn't candy coat his reviews and he is not afraid to rip into something that has as many glaring problems as Diablo 3 does. 

The real problem here is Blizzard released something that they new 13 months ago the community was not happy with. They refused to listen to any player feedback, and continued to drive that truck over the cliff. 

For me I do not see why it is such a big deal that some people do not like Diablo 3 unless the fanbois feel threatened that there is 2 other amazing Hack and Slash games coming out soon, and are running the typical fear mongering garbage they do every time a great MMORPG comes out that they feel threatenes WoW.

There is no reason to get so upset over other peoples opinions. Without opinions on both sides of the fence nobody would ever get a clear view of the truth of matters.... If left up to typical Blizzard fanbois then WoW, SC2, and Diablo 3 would only have reviews abotu how the game was perfect from the instant a light flickered into a developers brain. We all know this is so very untrue... Blizzard games have continous reptitive problems with Balance, Bugs, and Lack of Content. With only the reviews of Blizzard fanbois the general community would not have known this and Blizzard and its parent company would probably not be losing money... 

Companies do not change their corrupt and lazy ways until the community hits them in the pocket book. Positive and Negative reviews on products shoudl be seen as a form of checks and balances to keep the developers honest. The market really does not need another major failure like SW:TOR anytime soon.

GW2, TSW, Tera, Diablo 3, Torchlight2, PoE are all good PC games that are or will be available this year and if they can all remain healthy and profitable then we just might see the PC gaming market begin to grow again.

  LizardEgypt

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Hmm ?

5/17/12 3:13:05 AM#46
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by LizardEgypt

OP is butthurt that 75% of PC gamers aren't all casual scrubs that drool over Diablo 3.

...i think you may have got that statistic reversed.

Yeah sorry. 25%. I forgot that there's only like 3 of us per topic and we get flamed. It's really early in the morning

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  alexmino

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5/17/12 3:14:11 AM#47
Originally posted by Xasapis

That's nice publicity you generated for him right there.

Besides, do you really need TBs opinion to see what the general concensus is regarding Diablo? I think this site alone has exploded with complain threads.

This site also thinks GW2 is a big deal where no other big gaming site thinks so, and everyone on the board hates the mmo that is more popular than all the other mmos combined, not exactly the popular consensus.

  NeoZcar2

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5/17/12 3:25:32 AM#48
Originally posted by alexmino
Originally posted by Xasapis

That's nice publicity you generated for him right there.

Besides, do you really need TBs opinion to see what the general concensus is regarding Diablo? I think this site alone has exploded with complain threads.

This site also thinks GW2 is a big deal where no other big gaming site thinks so, and everyone on the board hates the mmo that is more popular than all the other mmos combined, not exactly the popular consensus.

These statements really make you seem to be a typical Blizzard fanboi. GW2 is currently the highest trending and highest rated MMORPG ever in development. No other game has reached the recognition and acclaim it has pre launch. We will probably also soon learn that it has the highest prepurchase numbers of any PC game in history but that is just a guess on my part.

Now as for your remark about teh popular concensus maybe you should ahve done some research.... Diablo 3 has a negative review and rating on almsot every single website that tracks such things as critic and user reviews. Blizzards own D3 forum is blown up with negative threads.... I would say TB's opinions and those of MMORPG.com users are pretty much a mirror of the popular concensus.

  seiiya

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5/17/12 3:29:27 AM#49

D3 is kinda crap game looks like an old hack n slash game

D2--->D3 end of story

  Sojiro84

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5/17/12 3:30:26 AM#50

Sounds like a legitimate rant to me.

He is spot on about the fact that if EA pulled off this little stunt everybody would be going apeshit. But since this is Blizzard we all allow it to happen.

The real money auction house is most likely a activision influenced feature to further enrich themselfs over the back of honest customers.

No, he seems pretty much spot on with his rant.

I mean, I was literally shocked yesterday when I wanted to play singleplaer but was unable to because the fucking server was full and I was placed in a fucking queue for a fucking singleplayer story!

That was a new low for me in gaming.

  Methos12

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Its better to be quiet and perceived as stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

5/17/12 3:35:07 AM#51

That's nice and all, but he doesn't really say anything negative about the game itself as much as he justifiably rants about the technology behind it and services related to the game. Which DO deserve to be ranted against given the launch day debacle, but whether such potential problems offset the benefits is up to individual judgement.

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  GroovyFlower

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5/17/12 3:35:58 AM#52
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I generally appreciate his input, but this review/rant is a total hack job of misinformation.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9WbqdYuba4&feature=plcp

 

He has several misconceptions/biases about D3.

 

1) He seems to think the scene can hack the game to be playable offline.  That's an absolute joke.  The best they can do is make it easier to connect to a server emulation once they are written.  I don't think he even grasps server/client relationships.

 

2) He seems to only care about the game as a single player game.  As such, he doesn't care about item hacking or bnet cheating.  He completely minimizes the benefit of storing all characters on their servers and running most of the code on their servers.  That doesn't mean that

 

3) He only sees the evils of the RMAH and completely ignores the gold AH.  Ever tried trading items in D2.  the options were to create a game name with the trade you wanted, but if it wasn't elite good luck.  The other popular method was  D2JSP, where one person profited financially and trades were not secure.  You might get a refund from d2jsp if you got scammed, but that's a major hassle.

 

4)  He's not even a fan of the genre and thus he clearly wasn't a serious online D2 player and doesn't understand the appeal.  Which is why he sees TL2, with an open BNET type of system, and POE which also is online only,as comparable.

 

If you want a simple single player hack&slash and aren't that interested in the genre, like Total Biscuit, then definitely buy Torchlight 2 for $20.  But don't take his review as being a well informed critique of the genre or the game.

Sorry but I agreed with most every word he said. 

He is almost on all accounts right and spot on, plus OP totally misunderstood TB rant about D3.

TB is absolutely correct about TL2 its way more value for money without the bullshit DRM D3 have and all its limitations from a money hungry grabbibg bullshit company called blizzard/activision.

  Kalfer

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5/17/12 3:36:43 AM#53

This thread is annoying. Why should ANYONE "GO" by anyones opinion. Try things for yourself. Don't base your thoughts on the basis of others regardless if negative or positive.

 

TB is wrong about a lot of things. This isn't thread worthy, but it is comment-on-youtube worthy, so I suggest doing it there!

  drel

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5/17/12 3:40:01 AM#54

It's only one person's opinion-no one says you have to agree with it. 

Enjoy the game for what's it worth.

  Ever-Angel

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5/17/12 3:47:56 AM#55

The video seems to be dead on.

  calranthe

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5/17/12 3:58:59 AM#56
Originally posted by seiiya

D3 is kinda crap game looks like an old hack n slash game

D2--->D3 end of story

For something we waited 12 years for sadly at the moment blizzard seems to believe it can keep shoveling b grade shit without innovation and get away with it. Unfortunatly according to pre orders and sales figures they may be right

Bdev "Hey I got a great idea lets make it impossible to mod D3, we can use the excuse of helping stop piracy and hacks"

Bdev2"Sounds fine after all no one out there is as innovative and technical as us"

Bdev"but what about single player fans will they not want to play the game how they wish with cheats and mods, items and new maps after all single player mode was available in D1 and D2?"

Bdev2"No they are just mindless drones in our battlenet machine, lets make it so we keep 90% of the guts of D3 on the servers forcing people who want to play offline to stay connected"

Bdev"Sounds good to me, should we pretest server loads and corelate server numbers based on pre-orders ?"

Bdev2"no need we are Blizzard, if we can sell pandas to the west we can do anything, let them drink in the ego and awe that is the login screen of D3"

 

  Gentl3Man

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5/17/12 3:59:34 AM#57

I dont play D3 but think TB is right that said

HAHAHAHAH sucks for those that play it.

  Icewhite

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5/17/12 4:17:20 AM#58
Originally posted by Kalfer

This thread is annoying. Why should ANYONE "GO" by anyones opinion.

The psychology that drives brand loyalty is well understood.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  FrodoFragins

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OP  5/17/12 4:24:36 AM#59
Originally posted by demongoat

well it is a good thing he didn't say that then, what he did say was the "scene" would "crack" the game.  which i assume was his short hand for finding a way to make the game playable on something other than blizzard servers, usually this is done in myriad ways.  in fact they had "cracked" the game, prior to may 15th, so he was right in fact.

i'd post more about it but eh, i'm not sure if i should.  there is already a few emulators anyway.

"Cracking" the game entails more than grabbing assets off of it.  Writing an emulator doesn't necessarilly even require hacking the disk.  He's talking out of his ass.

 

i mean blizzard already had a solution to the hacking and bnet issues: don't play on open games, that really did minimize the issues d1 had when they made d2.   you can't stop hacking entirely, it would be an impossible task, but closed bnet helped remove most of it.

 closed bnet was anything but hack free.  I don't think you understand what kind of hacks existed on closed bnet.  I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that things will be better with the smarts taken out of the client and placed on their servers.


seems to me he isn't a fan of DIABLO 3, not the genre, unless you are so much of a blizzard fanboy that you think the genre is made up of only blizard games.

You aren't paying attention.  He specifically says he's not a fan of the genre.

TL2, PoE are part of the genre! my god man, please think before you post.

also stop being a hack and slash snob, TL2 and PoE are good games, so is titan, and dungeon seige.  claiming "you arem't interested in the genre" because you aren't happy with what blizzard did, is downright assine and well... stupid, poorly thought out and sounds like whining.

I never said any of that.

 

  cloud8521

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5/17/12 4:24:52 AM#60

why does the OP even call this a reveiw this is just him answering his mailbag

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