Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by DarkPony

Also I think it was Suzie or Bill that said that even when Diablo III isn't technically a mmorpg, it has many things in common (apart from the massively bit) and the target groups overlap for a great deal too.

This and the fact that majority readers asked for it to be covered. Plus, at BlizzCon, Wyatt basically said "It's an MMO in our eyes, but we're not calling it that officially." Yes, it's missing a shared world, but given the always-on (except when it's down, lolz) nature of the title and its social aspects, is it really that much of a stretch?

Actually Bill, it is.

It's about as much an MMO as starcraft 2. Having RPG elements doesn't change that. I get why you guys are covering it, it's popular, but I wouldn't try and justify it as being an MMO when it's clearly not.

Originally posted by Paragus1

Originally posted by orbitxo

was wondering when you guys would talk about  server issues. its sad- after a beta stress weekend, they would fall  worse than the weekend itself.

 

Tell that to this guy...

"Error 37!? What the f*ck are the other 36!?" bout choked on my coffee with that one.

It's clearly not a MMO nor should it be even compared to one.  I don't think it belongs here.

That said, In My Opinion (!) it's a fair game. Not awesome by any stretch of the imagination. I'd rate it as a 6 on a 10 scale. It's pretty but the gameplay doesn't really bring anything special to the table. The server issues should be irrelevant but they aren't.  I don't condone piracy but this game is begging to be hacked to separate it from Battle.net so people can at least enjoy the single player experience.

Originally posted by Fendel84M

Originally posted by Superman0X

Originally posted by Boltonsquad

Completed the game at level 36 just over 15 hours gameplay, Worth it? not really bored the hell outta me.

 

The estimated play time is 20-30 hours of content x Multiple modes.

This is likely to be a sore point for players very quickly.

 

i'm 6 hours in and still on the first half of act 1. Soooo...ya that all depends on playstyle. For me I should be able to get quite a bit more. If you rush well thats your decision. Not fun to me rushing though.

i disagree with u on this/// people are rushing to finish quickly so they can start farming and get to AH with paypal etc- depends on play style- iam here for the lore and graphics-not to beat the game. when i do....i do.

yes i pick up every little book and listen to them. for lore.

I held off buying D3 and I'm really glad I did.  I won't touch it unless they add offline play.  I'm sure they will get the server issues under control eventually, and some of it can be explained (if not excused) by tons of people hitting the server at one time, but if it can happen now it can happen again in the future.  There's no good reason why people who pay decent money for a game should have to deal with server outages for the single-player game.

Originally posted by orbitxo

Originally posted by Fendel84M

Originally posted by Superman0X

Originally posted by Boltonsquad

Completed the game at level 36 just over 15 hours gameplay, Worth it? not really bored the hell outta me.

 

The estimated play time is 20-30 hours of content x Multiple modes.

This is likely to be a sore point for players very quickly.

 

i'm 6 hours in and still on the first half of act 1. Soooo...ya that all depends on playstyle. For me I should be able to get quite a bit more. If you rush well thats your decision. Not fun to me rushing though.

i disagree with u on this/// people are rushing to finish quickly so they can start farming and get to AH with paypal etc- depends on play style- iam here for the lore and graphics-not to beat the game. when i do....i do.

yes i pick up every little book and listen to them. for lore.

 

same here buddy, i am opening every bit dark spot on the map and looking under every little stone or breaking every vaze!lol i love this game so far 7 hours in it and almost done act 1, but i am pretty sure before i leave an area that the map is TOTALY clear :P

The game is extremely childish. It was made retard prof without any bit of planing, choice or tactical elements. Equipment is next to meaningless. I'm at level 30 running naked and killing everything on sight by holding my left mouse button.

 

It's by far my worst purchase of this year and the worst dungeon crawler I have played. Not even Dungeon Siege was this bare-bone and this simplistic.

 

And I'm not even considering the always on DRM, error 37, stupid server issues like having 1500ms latency when pinging any west coast site gives me normal pings.

 

I'm gonna go call my bank and request a charge-back now and assume this site based review will either be made by an impressible 8 year old or a biased guy.

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by DarkPony

Originally posted by TheDor

And why is a game that is clearly not an MMO getting an in-depth multi week review on MMORPG? Have we run out of things to talk about that actually are MMO related?

 

Like Mike pointed out it has at least "crappy launch days" in common with mmorpgs. Lolz.

Also I think it was Suzie or Bill that said that even when Diablo III isn't technically a mmorpg, it has many things in common (apart from the massively bit) and the target groups overlap for a great deal too.

 

This and the fact that majority readers asked for it to be covered. Plus, at BlizzCon, Wyatt basically said "It's an MMO in our eyes, but we're not calling it that officially." Yes, it's missing a shared world, but given the always-on (except when it's down, lolz) nature of the title and its social aspects, is it really that much of a stretch?

I say this with all due respect. How gullible do you think this site's readers really are?

I played both D1 and D2.  Also was a fan of Titan Quest.  Did the beta stress test and was not blown away.  It seems like the graphics are cartoony.  One of the best things about Diablo was how eerie it was.  I didn't get that feel from what I saw.

The bottom line for me though was that I will not support a single player game that requires you to log into a server.  I think the design decision is based more on a cash grab from the AH and rmt's, than anything else.  I expect lag spikes and disconnects etc when I am playing an mmo, not on my single player game that I have no intention of playing online.

I don't like the idea and I voted with my pocket book.

My friend really enjoyed the beta and was anxious to play yesterday...didn't talk to him to see if he was actually able to get in when he got home.

I think I will wait till it hits the bargain bins. Loved D1 and  D2, played them for weeks but be damned if I will pay that kind of money for a rehash of D2..

Originally posted by MMOarQQ
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I say this with all due respect. How gullible do you think this site's readers really are?

Not even a little bit. We've covered this ground before. We held a poll, the "Yes" beat the "No." And we all agreed (the staff) that it was of enough shared interest to cover over the course of launch and beyond. If it helps, we'll likely be covering TL2 as well for the same reasons. In the future, if we're able, we'll be opening a site simply for "other" RPGs. But for now, we'll do stuff that has crossover potential here.

My experience was terrible. Just.. words fail. Maybe next year if I try again. Or perhaps not.

It's really a buggy mess right now.

- Problems with servers. Login issues. Lag. Etc.

- Characters dissapearing.

- Achievement system not working and for those who it does, they lose most of it after a relog.

I find it really baffling that the achievement system appearently wasn't tested AT ALL ?!

I was able to sneak some time in.  I loved D2 - though I could only manage a few play throughs before I got bored :)

So far, I like it.  I do miss the erie atmosphere of D2 and D1.  I feel like they've made some great useability improvements over D2 (though online only is a huge step back).

I like the advancement system.  RPGs in general are moving away from the talent/skill tree system in favor of some form of "deck" building system.  We've seen so many takes on the talent tree, I think Blizzard had no choice but to try something different.  I also think making the game compatible with consoles is another reason for the system.

It definitely isn't as genre defining as D2 was - and Blizzard will get flack for that.  I think thats the inherent problem.... it feels like another D2 clone.

Originally posted by MMORPG

A lot of readers like to point out that Diablo III isn’t an MMO whenever we post an article or news post about the game, but...

So then why are you guys posting about it?

I guess Blizzard threw enough cash your way??

I suppose that is one way to operate.

It's way to early to review the game but I'll give my gut feelings.  I'm level 20 and in Act II.  I enjoy the gameplay of my Barb and don't miss the talent trees or setting my STR, VIT ...

I do miss the original voice behind Tyrael though.  The new voice actor just isn't nearly as powerful.  The same goes for the soundtrack.  So far it's a dud.

The game is definitely fun.  But there's only one Diablo 2 and the successor's, whetther made by blizzard or elsewhere, will never be the same for me.

well i rmeber when diablo 1 came out loved it couldnt stop playing it  my isster at the time even broke it and threw it away  so i wouldnt play it  then 2 came out it was ok little difrent and now 3 well i lost all desire to play it not even interested in it dint even try my betta invite old  crap old news  should have been out 8 years augo  you all can have it i got better  things to play than old news 

It's the little things you really enjoy.   The rats running out of the bushes.  Half a guys body crawling across the floor.  This game is epic. 

People complaining about graphics make me laugh.  This is not Crysis 2.  Gameplay is the key here.  Too easy for you on normal? Try inferno.   

Anyone who played the first 2 are playing this.   Also don't expect this on the bargain bin any time soon.  D2 was $40 like 8 years after launch. 

Not happy there is no offline mode.  But they had to do this to prevent cheating.  I expect most companies to start following suit. 

Jesus, you too Mike?

A horrible start? You're seriously going to label the game in that negative fashion over a few measly few hours downtime on the launch day of the most aniticipated PC game in history?

Honestly, your article reads like it was written by the forum trolls who spent the duration of the day crying on the o-forums yesterday about not being able to play, while the rest of us had a really enjoyable experience. The only downtime that was truly an inconvenience was the downtime yesterday evening, the other period's of downtime were trivial at best.

Way to jump on the bandwagon.

Eww. A lot of good and bad about D3. Well, for me I enjoy playing it. Made it threw act 1. The game play is great and with the server problem, for me it was only about three hours of wait time. Not to bad compared to other newly launched games, but still bad. Other then that thier has not been any problem since then with my game play.