Ever seen an MMO being reinstated after being shut down?

There is your answer.

I would love to see Tabula Rasa being brought back online.  Ain't ever gonna happen!

Originally posted by Ecnali
I'm sorta hoping that SOE and Lucas.Arts could come to some sort of reconciliation and bring back SWG. I was so terribly disappointed with SWTOR. And I really miss the only MMO that had such a wonderful crafting system, housing system, and the way buffs were handled. and I know most of you lot are going to loathe this, but I loved SWG after the NGE and all the other modifications they were doing before they closed the curtain on it.

If TOR closes down (or close to) someone else might get the license instead but frankly were SWG never that large. If they brought it back it would never come close to 100K players anyways and LA aims higher than that.

I would be very surprised if SOE got the license for a new game, and SWG will never be revived, sorry.

Your best hope is that someone opens up a illegal private server (if none such exist already). Anything else wont happen.

Well, SOE could maybe use SWG as a base for a new game with another setting but it isn´t likely.

No, complex sandboxes are not considered by triple A budget companies. Must be ThemePark and must cater to casuals to maximize profits.

I do think IF SWG 2 was done right if would be a popular game, It may only get a couple of hundred k subs but I think it would run at a profit.

But ofc this is just my opinion.

If I ever had the money (which will never happen) I would like to see a SWG/EVE cross over with lots of planets to be fought over. SWG on the gound and EVE in space.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Ecnali
I'm sorta hoping that SOE and Lucas.Arts could come to some sort of reconciliation and bring back SWG. I was so terribly disappointed with SWTOR. And I really miss the only MMO that had such a wonderful crafting system, housing system, and the way buffs were handled. and I know most of you lot are going to loathe this, but I loved SWG after the NGE and all the other modifications they were doing before they closed the curtain on it.

If TOR closes down (or close to) someone else might get the license instead but frankly were SWG never that large. If they brought it back it would never come close to 100K players anyways and LA aims higher than that.

I would be very surprised if SOE got the license for a new game, and SWG will never be revived, sorry.

Your best hope is that someone opens up a illegal private server (if none such exist already). Anything else wont happen.

Well, SOE could maybe use SWG as a base for a new game with another setting but it isn´t likely.

SWG had 250-300k subscribers between 2003 and 2005 when NGE hit and the subs plummeted. And that number is really nice for pre-WoW era. Prior to that it was basically only EQ, FF XI and Lineage 1 that could beat those numbers.

So if they brought back a modern SWG I would bet it would get a sustained subscriber base of 300k, easy. Specially since because of the so many ThemeParks being released I imagine there is a demand for something different.

But it would not happen, no. Current (triple A) MMO devs/producers are aiming for big sales (1 M+) then when the subscriber base is low enough, go F2P and focus on the cash-shop to maximize profits. Or do like GW 2 and go B2P+cash shop. A sandbox would not work like that because for one it caters to less amount of people and a cash-shop in sandbox, I dont really think it will work.

MMOs are big bussiness now so the main, and maybe even only, driving force is maximizing return of investment. That is why MMOs these days are so easy and hand-holds you, to cater to as many people as possible.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Ecnali
I'm sorta hoping that SOE and Lucas.Arts could come to some sort of reconciliation and bring back SWG. I was so terribly disappointed with SWTOR. And I really miss the only MMO that had such a wonderful crafting system, housing system, and the way buffs were handled. and I know most of you lot are going to loathe this, but I loved SWG after the NGE and all the other modifications they were doing before they closed the curtain on it.

If TOR closes down (or close to) someone else might get the license instead but frankly were SWG never that large. If they brought it back it would never come close to 100K players anyways and LA aims higher than that.

I would be very surprised if SOE got the license for a new game, and SWG will never be revived, sorry.

Your best hope is that someone opens up a illegal private server (if none such exist already). Anything else wont happen.

Well, SOE could maybe use SWG as a base for a new game with another setting but it isn´t likely.

SWG had 250-300k subscribers between 2003 and 2005 when NGE hit and the subs plummeted. And that number is really nice for pre-WoW era. Prior to that it was basically only EQ, FF XI and Lineage 1 that could beat those numbers.

So if they brought back a modern SWG I would bet it would get a sustained subscriber base of 300k, easy. Specially since because of the so many ThemeParks being released I imagine there is a demand for something different.

But it would not happen, no. Current (triple A) MMO devs/producers are aiming for big sales (1 M+) then when the subscriber base is low enough, go F2P and focus on the cash-shop to maximize profits. Or do like GW 2 and go B2P+cash shop. A sandbox would not work like that because for one it caters to less amount of people and a cash-shop in sandbox, I dont really think it will work.

MMOs are big bussiness now so the main, and maybe even only, driving force is maximizing return of investment. That is why MMOs these days are so easy and hand-holds you, to cater to as many people as possible.

Nah, it was sloppy and people expect more now. It doesn't have to do with other developers, it has to do with player expectations in quality.

Some solid systems, but nothing amazing. Perhaps crafting is the only thing worth re-looking at. Although it was also extremely frustrating if you kept losing the die roll.

Originally posted by colddog04

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Ecnali
I'm sorta hoping that SOE and Lucas.Arts could come to some sort of reconciliation and bring back SWG. I was so terribly disappointed with SWTOR. And I really miss the only MMO that had such a wonderful crafting system, housing system, and the way buffs were handled. and I know most of you lot are going to loathe this, but I loved SWG after the NGE and all the other modifications they were doing before they closed the curtain on it.

If TOR closes down (or close to) someone else might get the license instead but frankly were SWG never that large. If they brought it back it would never come close to 100K players anyways and LA aims higher than that.

I would be very surprised if SOE got the license for a new game, and SWG will never be revived, sorry.

Your best hope is that someone opens up a illegal private server (if none such exist already). Anything else wont happen.

Well, SOE could maybe use SWG as a base for a new game with another setting but it isn´t likely.

SWG had 250-300k subscribers between 2003 and 2005 when NGE hit and the subs plummeted. And that number is really nice for pre-WoW era. Prior to that it was basically only EQ, FF XI and Lineage 1 that could beat those numbers.

So if they brought back a modern SWG I would bet it would get a sustained subscriber base of 300k, easy. Specially since because of the so many ThemeParks being released I imagine there is a demand for something different.

But it would not happen, no. Current (triple A) MMO devs/producers are aiming for big sales (1 M+) then when the subscriber base is low enough, go F2P and focus on the cash-shop to maximize profits. Or do like GW 2 and go B2P+cash shop. A sandbox would not work like that because for one it caters to less amount of people and a cash-shop in sandbox, I dont really think it will work.

MMOs are big bussiness now so the main, and maybe even only, driving force is maximizing return of investment. That is why MMOs these days are so easy and hand-holds you, to cater to as many people as possible.

Nah, it was sloppy and people expect more now. It doesn't have to do with other developers, it has to do with player expectations in quality.

 

Some solid systems, but nothing amazing. Perhaps crafting is the only thing worth re-looking at. Although it was also extremely frustrating if you kept losing the die roll.

Expect more in what regards? In therms of graphics, UI etc maybe but saying that games like TERA, SW:TOR has more than SWG, gameplay-wise is absurd. SWG had a full fledged and complex economy, intricate crafting and vast areas to explore. These themeparks have tiny, linear zones and a dumbed down and simplistic crafting system and a barely functioning economy. They are basically Diablo type Hack and Slash games.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by colddog04

Nah, it was sloppy and people expect more now. It doesn't have to do with other developers, it has to do with player expectations in quality.

 

Some solid systems, but nothing amazing. Perhaps crafting is the only thing worth re-looking at. Although it was also extremely frustrating if you kept losing the die roll.

Expect more in what regards? In therms of graphics, UI etc maybe but saying that games like TERA, SW:TOR has more than SWG, gameplay-wise is absurd. SWG had a full fledged and complex economy, intricate crafting and vast areas to explore. These themeparks have tiny, linear zones and a dumbed down and simplistic crafting system and a barely functioning economy. They are basically Diablo type Hack and Slash games.

1. Horrific gameplay would be the nicest way to describe SWGs gameplay. 

2. I liked that they had open worlds, but they were empty.

3. UI was bad, like you admit.

4. Garphics were fine for the time, but nothing special. SWG Typical MMORPG at the time.

Crafting was good, like I said. Areas are big but uneventful. Gameplay is poor.

People expect more from their games today. SWTOR doesn't even cut it in terms of what it should offer and they spent 200 million on the thing.

The game is not that bad Its the only game since the recent releases that has gotten me back to MMO's thus far everything else that has come out has either been removed completely and abandonded or just completely sucked and they stopped developing. I believe its the gamers fault of today that they are not happy with given products. When I was coming up we made our own content. We made our own contest I.E. Matrix online we had fight night fridays with big prizes. Now you cant get someone to do a simple quest because they are racing to max level instead of enjoying the game and expanding on it with the community this is just not happening any more. It is what it is make the best of and move on.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Ever seen an MMO being reinstated after being shut down?

There is your answer.

 

I would love to see Tabula Rasa being brought back online.  Ain't ever gonna happen!

APB?

All I got to say is SWG was an amazing game, my favorite game on any console or PC.  I played it though when everything was in its prime, from 2004-NGE, a year after release in 2003.   It was definitely a sucess in game during those times, the forums always were lit up by the thousands of people selling and buying items in the trade forums.  It wanted to compete with WOW, so they did the best they could, thats what happened. I Still keep SWG on my HD and play it as often as I can in emu.

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That would be amazing. I thought about writing LA to beg, but I can't find a legit e-mail address to write them. If a petition was started that stated the reasons why we want it instead of SWTOR, they might listen...slim chance, but...

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Even with declining subs, SWTOR still has more subscribers than SWG ever had.  Your personal opinion of the quality of the game is irrelevant.

Not a chance. The game may not be great, but it is going to be profitable, even if they have to cut staff and corners to do it. 

EA has the rights to the liscense and as they recently said they look forward to exploiting the IP

Even the worst most pessimist outcasts put SWTOR as having more subs than SWG did on its prime, so I'd say... no chance at all.

No chance. All SWTOR's crapping the bed proved was that people don't want to play an unstable and bland themepark MMO by themselves. I'm sure we'll see another 5-6 of these before the year is up lol.

Originally posted by L0C0Man

Even the worst most pessimist outcasts put SWTOR as having more subs than SWG did on its prime, so I'd say... no chance at all.

Like I said before, SWG hovered around 300k subs for over a year (2004-2005) and I will bet good money that SW:TOR will go below 300k subs by the end of the year, unless they go F2P.

That is the difference between real MMORPGs of the past and these cut and paste casual ThemePark garbage. The former evolved over time and slowly raised in subs where as the latter depend on a high initial sales, to make a quick buck, and then decline over the first year to then either go in maintenance mode or F2P. But by then they have moved on to develpp the next MMO and the money-wagon continues. Cryptic is a perfect example of a company that create copy paste garbage and add cash shop to get some quick buck and then go F2P.

Originally posted by L0C0Man

Even the worst most pessimist outcasts put SWTOR as having more subs than SWG did on its prime, so I'd say... no chance at all.

but there is no chance in hell SWTOR will have a fraction of SWG subs for as long as SWG did!

I liked SWG, but I don't get where people say SWTOR is horrible or bad.  It's a matter of opinion I guess really.  I just don't see it.