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  BigHatLogan

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5/15/12 5:27:52 PM#21

I think the game is ready per what i have seen in the BETA weekend.  However, there were some areas and races closed for the BETA so we don't really know about those aspects.  I didn't run into any bugs during the weekend, and performance was great for me, even as an NA player on an EU server.  I had some slight slowdown in large WvWvW fights but it was slight enough that i could still fight as effectively as I needed to.    I hope they release soon. 

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  Wickedjelly

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5/15/12 5:32:15 PM#22

Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.

Really is...

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  kanezfan

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5/15/12 5:34:59 PM#23


Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.
Really is...

When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.

  Wickedjelly

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5/15/12 5:37:03 PM#24
Originally posted by kanezfan

 


 

When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.

That's great. You guys should tell Anet it is ready to launch then. Glad to hear.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Eletheryl

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Joined: 5/01/12
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5/15/12 5:41:15 PM#25
Originally posted by kanezfan

 


Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.
Really is...


 

When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.

what stage of beta are you taking about?, The game is not even close to be ready and if they release the game now, it will fail. The performance issues are still there, and for a game with WvW or RvR thats is a gamebreaker. ¨the doorwars is still there¨ dont know if they have any plans to fix it, abilty delay, the problem with the animations, arrows through wall, is a long list to be honest. The game need more time. 

  kanezfan

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5/15/12 5:43:29 PM#26


Originally posted by Wickedjelly


Originally posted by kanezfan
 

 
When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.


That's great. You guys should tell Anet it is ready to launch then. Glad to hear.

Nobody's telling them to launch it now. I myself just said that they can take another 6 months if they feel that's what it needs.

  kanezfan

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5/15/12 5:44:25 PM#27


Originally posted by Eletheryl


Originally posted by kanezfan
 



Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.
Really is...



 
When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.


what stage of beta are you taking about?, The game is not even close to be ready and if they release the game now, it will fail. The performance issues are still there, and for a game with WvW or RvR thats is a gamebreaker. ¨the doorwars is still there¨ dont know if they have any plans to fix it, abilty delay, the problem with the animations, arrows through wall, is a long list to be honest. The game need more time. 

I didn't say it's ready to launch tomorrow. Don't know where you got that from.

  p_c_sousa

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5/15/12 5:44:31 PM#28
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.

Really is...

and you think you will see the all game before lauch???????? from what was available for me test, 1-2month seem ok to lauch the game.

we dont know almost nothing about the high lvl areas and i doubt they will make them available on BW. asura and sylvari areas can be areas that arenanet will never make available on betas. i really want try some sylvari areas on beta but im not expect everything will be available on betas for we try...

  semantikron

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5/15/12 5:45:21 PM#29

I know that I don't know whether or not the entire game will be ready by then. 

However, I haven't seen anything that suggests it won't be ready by then.  Just take the state of WvW as an indicator for example.  It's a huge system.  Ginormous.  So much complexity and balance and polish in just that one feature.  And look how solid it is.  But there is soooo much PVE world that we havent seen.

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  gestalt11

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5/15/12 5:45:34 PM#30
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by kanezfan

 


 

When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.

That's great. You guys should tell Anet it is ready to launch then. Glad to hear.

Well my understanding is that they are not going to show Asura and Sylvari during Beta at all.  So there will always be a significant number of zones we won't test at all.

Anet are professionals (professionals in my own profession in fact) and they have given me little reason to believe they don't know what they are doing or even that they are too arrogant to listen to their testers which is a fatal thing many MMOs dev houses seem to fall into.

So I basically have to assume they have good reason for doing stuff like that.  I assume they are confident in their internal and closed beta testing of those area.  And they have used proper coding such that when they identify a bug in the personal story of say humans, that the change they make to fix it affects the other race's personal story because they have properly reused thier code/created a proper hierachry of functionality.

 

Of course I could be wrong.  Perhaps the code is an unmitigated nightmare like the SWG code base.  But I don't use beta to evaluate whether the entire game is excellent.  There has never been a Beta where people really knew what happened at max level or at least no in a way they could prove well.

 

Based on other betas of MMOs they are in really good shape even with the issues they do have.

 

  Wickedjelly

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5/15/12 5:50:09 PM#31
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.

Really is...

and you think you will see the all game before lauch????????

Yes.

Clearly by my post that is what I think.

>_>

What I think is some people are once again building unrealistic expectations. You know...the same ones that when they aren't met then proceed to make topics ranting about that as well.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  gestalt11

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Joined: 5/17/06
Posts: 6165

5/15/12 5:55:35 PM#32
Originally posted by Eletheryl
Originally posted by kanezfan

 


Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.
Really is...


 

When we compare it to other games at the same stage in beta, yeah we are pretty confident it's doing well.

what stage of beta are you taking about?, The game is not even close to be ready and if they release the game now, it will fail. The performance issues are still there, and for a game with WvW or RvR thats is a gamebreaker. ¨the doorwars is still there¨ dont know if they have any plans to fix it, abilty delay, the problem with the animations, arrows through wall, is a long list to be honest. The game need more time. 

Many performance issues don't take 6 months to fix. 

What ability delays?  This is the first time i have heard of that unless you are talking about lag.  GW2 does NOT have the ability delay problems SWTOR had/has.  There are really VERY few animation issues compared to other games at this stage.

 

There are at least two ways i have seen people use to circumvent doors via teleports that probably need to go as supposedly there should be no way to circumvent doors.  Some stuff like that may need to get fixed.

 

And what are you talking about when you say "fixing the doorwars".  Get a ram and other siege engines and make sure you are destroying the oil.  Seriously, just because you opted to ram your head against a wall doesn't mean there are no tools for getting through walls.

 

  gestalt11

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5/15/12 5:57:33 PM#33
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Amazing how many are positive the game is ready for launch considering how little of it they have seen in the whole scope of things.

Really is...

and you think you will see the all game before lauch????????

Yes.

Clearly by my post that is what I think.

>_>

What I think is some people are once again building unrealistic expectations. You know...the same ones that when they aren't met then proceed to make topics ranting about that as well.

You may have valid point, but you are expressing it with a "pot meet kettle" situation.

  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
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5/15/12 6:11:35 PM#34

As to a couple "issues" with the beta one or two people raised... I played a Warrior during the stress test, specifically because some people were complaining about melee ability delays. I experienced no coded ability delays. Not while unlocking all my weapon skills nor in SPVP. I did twice during the test have a delay on a skill activating, but it was lag, not coded in, and out of the many thousands of skill activations I'm sure I had over the seven hours, two instances of skill delay doesn't strike me as a real issue.

"Door Wars"? The fix is the players, not the game. When people start to really "get" how WvW works, you'll see a lot less "Door Wars" and a lot more strategic play. People who aren't manning siege engines, providing blue prints and supply or defending siege engines have a lot better things they can be doing other than banging on a door with their skills. Walls can be destroyed, supply flow does matter for defenders, there are boons to be won by earning the favor of NPC factions and a fortress siege can be a distraction to allow your faction to capture many smaller objective pionts that also provide serious contribution to your next score tabulation.

All MMOs today limit the number of zones and levels we get to see in beta. Many games launch with the intro levels shown in beta still having issues and, yes, some show highly polished intro areas, only to have higher level areas show up in rough shape on launch day. We don't know anything about the higher levels of GW2 content and we won't know until launch. All we can do is judge the game on what we do see and what we do see is definitely at a point you would expect from a game a couple months from launch.

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  Shroom_Mage

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5/15/12 6:18:04 PM#35

Does anyone remember that image that was in an ArenaNet album a while back?



Hmm. Strange coincidence. It's probably nothing...

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  terrant

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5/15/12 6:20:35 PM#36
Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

Does anyone remember that image that was in an ArenaNet album a while back?



Hmm. Strange coincidence. It's probably nothing...

Someone from Anet came out and said it wasn't a release date, jsut a buncha shirts hung up.

 

Now, mind you, they could be blowing smoke at us, but who knows?

  fiontar

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5/15/12 6:27:26 PM#37
Originally posted by terrant
Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

Does anyone remember that image that was in an ArenaNet album a while back?



Hmm. Strange coincidence. It's probably nothing...

Someone from Anet came out and said it wasn't a release date, jsut a buncha shirts hung up.

 

Now, mind you, they could be blowing smoke at us, but who knows?

The explaination made no real sense, which for me sort of confirmed that was indeed meant as a reminder of their internal launch goal. Goals can slip and they won't launch until they feel it's ready, but I really do feel that this was their target date and may still be their target date.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  maskmurda

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Because I would rather be a Warrior.

5/15/12 6:30:36 PM#38

I remember i made a post about it coming out 6/28/12 because of a picture and matching sites promote the date, and a bunch of forum trolls told me it was just a "placeholder date".  I guess A-net thinks it's  a placeholder date too.

  Falcomith

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5/15/12 6:32:32 PM#39
Originally posted by maskmurda

I remember i made a post about it coming out 6/28/12 because of a picture and matching sites promote the date, and a bunch of forum trolls told me it was just a "placeholder date".  I guess A-net thinks it's  a placeholder date too.

Here is the article...

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/developers-weigh-release-date-conspiracy/

"Those jersey’s are actually a tradition we’ve had in our design department where if a member of our design team who had been there for a while leaves, we’d hang a “retired” jersey on the wall for them. They used to be really crude t-shirts with names and numbers drawn on in pen but when our soccer team had cooler jerseys made we decided to order some for them. The number is their last work day. Sorry to ruin any fun conspiracy theories but any relation between those numbers and any kind of date is entirely coincidental at best."

  Vidir

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5/15/12 6:37:06 PM#40

Game is polished enogh for me to enjoy it,would be happy if they released next week.

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