Sounds like the OP thought the game was gonna be bad before he started to play and then when he did play it he played it in such a way to try and confirm his reservations about it rather than playing it as a game.

I can go play game x as well and play it in such a way as that my totally extreme prejudice toward it seems more valid by the 'gameplay' experience I had. Anyone can do that, it's easy to play any game in such a way as to reinforce your own agenda if you try hard enough.

If you do play the game in future, OP, don't play it with an agenda. You're just wasting your time. 

I don't know one single person who does NOT like GW2, and in 17+ years of playing MMORPGs, I made a lot of friends.

I guess that makes it even ;-)

Well, i dont know one single person that played GW2 and didnt like it :)

Are you sure that the ppl you know and dont like actually played?

But if you dont like is very easy to stay out of it :)

Every single person i do know in real life who tried GW2 loves it and has pre purchased. Plus my entire guild has pre ordered or pre purchased.

Honestly I think you are just trolling.

I do not understand this obsession the GW" haters have of saying that we now pay for Beta. NO WE DON'T!

Yes technically you are paying money and then gaining access to a beta, however you are also buying the entire game. So technically its an add-on. This discredits every posters who mentions it in my eyes, as its like they are cluthing at straws to find negative points about the game. If you disagree so much with the way ArenaNet are conducting their open beta then don't be a part of it. You clearly don't object that much as you actually bought the game and played the beta. (on a side note, if you pre ordered the game and then didn't play the beta..this would be better? because you technically didn't pay for a beta?)

I grow tired of the fact that on this forum (and many other gaming forums) if you have a negative comment about something you are free to throw social norms for discussion and arguement out the window and just attack the people who like the game and its developers. Same goes for the people defending the games when they reply. However threads that start with a positive post do not desend into the same kind of disregard for personal opinions and well thought out disucssion.

Grow up gaming industry!

Originally posted by tixylix

I really have tried to like this game after all the hype gamebreaker were giving it saying it's so revolutionary and innovative. Then all the hype from people about how it isn't your typical MMO with kill 10 rats quests and how dynamic events change everything got me to pre order to try the beta cause you have to pay for it these days.

Logged in to a bland selection of races, Gamebreaker were saying how unique and amaizng they look, yet to me they just look bland and the two not available just look so cheesy like some Japanese MMO. The class selection is hardly inspired either, it's just your standard fantasy selection of classes, nothing groundbreaking or innovative yet...

Once I actually got to the gameplay the first thing you're tasked to do is speak to someone just to be told to run over there and speak to someone. Then you get told to go to some fort and defend it from waves of people, the strange thing is it was beta and this part had no people in it, making this really unfun to play as it was designed for lots of people quite obviously. The combat is really boring too as it's press one button over and over until you unlock the next part and then click two buttons until you unlock the third. I just don't get it, just let me have all the abilities from the get go, it only takes like 20 mins to unlock them anyways and it's so unfun to play with just one or two abilities. There was nothing amazing about the quest, defend waves of people and defeat the boss, we've seen it before and i did it solo cause there wasn't anyone around. I looked at the server selection and turned out my server was light, however in GW2 one of the amazing and revolutionary things is to only allow you to play on one server, I even deleted all my characters and it still wouldn't let me switch.... so great I'm stuck with no people!

There seemed to be more people in the main world but the very first quests were "kill 10 of thse" or "collect 12 of these" or "run back and forth to speak to people" and straight away I realised all these people and Gamebreaker were lying, it's just boring standard MMO quests. I really don't understand how anyone invests in the main story, the characters or the world as it all seems rather bland, cliche and it feels very Asian MMO like. To the point where the movement is very Asian like as well where the running animation is like wide strides but slow ones and your character is moving too fast lol. When you jump, you can see your character jumping and you can jump onto things and yet you still feel like you're glued to the ground.

The dynamic quests turned out to be public quests from WAR, they aren't dynamic but just recycle themselves over and over. People are saying they're like evolved versions of the ones in WAR but they play exactly the same. There will either be waves or stages inside a circle on the map and it all ends at a boss, rinse and repeat. I just don't understand how people are calling this innovative, even RIFT had this system and it's something that I've experiences many times before. Though Gamebreakers excuse is "it gets better at later levels" but where have I heard that before? Like every MMO before lol....... I'm not interested in playing through a crap part of the game to get to the good part.

 

The PVP is basically WAR as well where you have boring Battlegrounds of poorly designed maps which don't hold a candle to what WoW's did back when I used to play that. You have no world PVP as the PVE zones are all cut off from the PVP so that makes PVE more boring knowing you cannot gank or be ganked, shame because proper world PVP is dynamic and fun. You just have big battlegrounds with keeps in them that I dunno probably hold 300 people and instead of making another instance of it they make you queue up forever. Like hang on you have this overflow server for all the PVE zones and you cannot make another instance of the Keep PVP stuff? When I did eventually get in I quickly found it plays exactly like WAR's Keep PVP in that you will find massive zergs of Ranged all sticking together making melee pointless and you just follow the zerg. I realised why again I found WARs PVP boring because fighting in zergs isn't fun, what is fun is small group or 1 v 1 in true open world PVP....

 

I came into GW2 expecting great things after the hype, sites like Gamebreaker saying how it is nothing like other MMOs. What I got is Warhammer Online 4 years later............

I know, that you have no friends right?

Thanks for your opinion, funny thing that my case its quite the oposite.

Could not disagree with the OP more...

I love GW2 and having withdrawl symptoms over my little fix yesterday. I want this game so bad right now it actually has me wanting to pay for a closed beta key.

You would have to know me, to know how big that statement is.

I only have experienced the human areas, but I have to admit that when you start out you encounter quite simple events. For example that farm with the wurms and cowfeeding etc is very familiar to WAR events. The hearts also give the wrong impression. There is one at that farm too and it could be confused for being a dynamic event.

I didn't see a lot of event chaining untill I got close to Beetletun and found all those Centaur events. That whole area can be overrun by centaurs. Had some fun fights there.

Another thing I noticed this Monday was that when you happen to enter an overflow server with just a few ppl, you can have trouble finding active events. I never had this problem with the last beta weekend event, but this Monday I was playing for 15mins and started to wonder if Anet had turned off dynamic events lol.

Well I was surprised to find out that two people that do not play MMORPG's had not only bought the game, but texted me to see what server I was on so they could run around with me for the stress test day. They both had a blast and can't wait for the next chance to play. I don't know anyone who plays MMOS who doesn't like GW2 and now I can honestly say it has brought in two who don't play the genre. My experiences are complete opposit but ty for sharing OP.

Originally posted by someforumguy

I only have experienced the human areas, but I have to admit that when you start out you encounter quite simple events. For example that farm with the wurms and cowfeeding etc is very familiar to WAR events. The hearts also give the wrong impression. There is one at that farm too and it could be confused for being a dynamic event.

I didn't see a lot of event chaining untill I got close to Beetletun and found all those Centaur events. That whole area can be overrun by centaurs. Had some fun fights there.

Another thing I noticed this Monday was that when you happen to enter an overflow server with just a few ppl, you can have trouble finding active events. I never had this problem with the last beta weekend event, but this Monday I was playing for 15mins and started to wonder if Anet had turned off dynamic events lol.

Yes I did encounter this as well monday, but on previous weekend testing I was actually getting more events in overflow.

I am really not sure what triggers events, it is kind of the " if a tree falls in the woods thing.. "  I mean if no one is in the forest to see the event ring does that mean there isnt an event?

Originally posted by Sorrow

Yes I did encounter this as well monday, but on previous weekend testing I was actually getting more events in overflow.

I am really not sure what triggers events, it is kind of the " if a tree falls in the woods thing.. "  I mean if no one is in the forest to see the event ring does that mean there isnt an event?

Solved by the whole "Schrödinger's Cat" exercise. Until a finite point in time, the ring event can be both considered to be active and inactive.

I have read a few you start out like this talk little event. As with any game they are making sure you understand the basic steps of how the game works. As too characters limitation, these are closed beta events, to tweek and correct game. So they will give you content and access to what is ready to test or that they are ready for you to have. Just did the beta stress test yesterday, report several bugs for them. Dealt with some lag issues that we where told to expect because of what they would be doing to servers. The biggest issue I keep seeing in these post, is the few people that expect a game to play that is ready, something that was never promised. Though I am still in open open open mode because I want to be able to come back and play GW2 when ever I want.

I read this "wait a few weeks after release and people will bitch about gw2 just like they did swtor" thing a lot from the haters just because they think the game sucks and they think they are some kind of Nostradamus. You know the big issue you're conveniently ignoring? In the swtor beta, there were a lot of people, and I mean a LOT, that were posting threads on the swtor forums, and I'm sure here and other MMO sites, with concerns and feelings of being completely undersold. A lot of us knew that swtor was doomed if these things were not fixed before launch and lo and behold, we were right.

With the gw2 beta however, you have (and this is just a guess but I'd say it's probably accurate) like 90 to 95% positive reaction with just a few negative posts about the game. In fact I'd say you see a lot more positive posts than usual as people are really happy with the game and usually the bulk of posts are negative as people feel more compelled to complain than to praise.

I love the game and I think you are dead wrong. In fact I believe you didn't play the game (there is no kill 12 rats in this game anywhere) and you are one of these people paid (by EA probably lolol) to post negative comments about the competition.

Originally posted by Macecard

I do not understand this obsession the GW" haters have of saying that we now pay for Beta. NO WE DON'T!

Yes technically you are paying money and then gaining access to a beta, however you are also buying the entire game. So technically its an add-on. This discredits every posters who mentions it in my eyes, as its like they are cluthing at straws to find negative points about the game. If you disagree so much with the way ArenaNet are conducting their open beta then don't be a part of it. You clearly don't object that much as you actually bought the game and played the beta. (on a side note, if you pre ordered the game and then didn't play the beta..this would be better? because you technically didn't pay for a beta?)

I grow tired of the fact that on this forum (and many other gaming forums) if you have a negative comment about something you are free to throw social norms for discussion and arguement out the window and just attack the people who like the game and its developers. Same goes for the people defending the games when they reply. However threads that start with a positive post do not desend into the same kind of disregard for personal opinions and well thought out disucssion.

Grow up gaming industry!

Right, see it seems to become the norm that in order to "test" the game before release you have very little choice but either to pre-purchase the game or put your bets on your luck... the latter i've had repeatedly success with e.g. getting keys to both the GW2 BWE and the TSW beta weekend.

BUT I do remember a time when there were open betas where you could easily sign up and always got in... and mind not for a day or two but for weeks!

So, yeah, let's face it: wanting to play in beta has for most people very little to do with trying to improve the game (or how many of you actually rated the events/quests?) but rather a) with being able to play the game that they are looking forward to before release, or b) to test the game to see if it's you cup of tea.

Frankly, I'd say that there is nothing wrong with the latter AND allowing you to test it before release.

MMOs DO get trial options, sometime rather quickly after release, look at what SWTOR is offering now, not even 6 months after release, and has been offering for a couple of months now, so yeah, I'm sure GW2 will the same - eventually.  

So, why not do so before? Unless you as the game publisher are afraid that your initial sales numbers will be endangered by people who may still be undecided whether to buy the game or not, now not buying the game thanks to being able to test it and finding it disappointing..

But from my own experience I'll paint each game publlisher a positive light about doing open betas:

I had bought a new (not highend gaming) laptop last year. And as it happened I got into the SWTOR beta. Now, I would never have expected SWTOR to be able to run on that laptop. The best I had hoped for were classic MMOs, some even pre-WoW.

But I tried and it ran fairly smooth (20+ FPS). So, yeah, as SWTOR felt good I bought it. And am still playing it.

Now, I got into the TSW beta as well, and I was actually looking forward to it.

But guess what: I was always stuck a 4FPS despite having all settings on low, shadows off, even toyed with different resolutions, went to empty places in Kingsmouth, nothing, always around 4 FPS.

In short thank to the TSW beta I know that I would require a different PC/laptop to play it UNLESS FC were to admit that something on the coding end was not quite as it will be in release resulting in my low frame rates. Much like GW2 where in the BWE the client wasn't GPU optimized (or rather just CPU set) and as such could still see frame rate improvement - though I must say that in GW2 I also had a nice 20+ FPS, which actually made TSW such a surprise.

Anyways, so yeah, I'd say to all game publishers bring back the open betas, it may cost you in the pre-purchase sector but it will help you in your initial sales IF your product is good! 

I'm having a lot of fun each time I play and I can tell the game will last me quite a while, but if the OP didn't like it, I guess it's his prerogative on where to place the blame.

i guess it's a matter of taste, but you have no reason to say that the WvW is boring. i hate PvP, and gw2's WvW has become my main reason to buy the game. honestly, i think you just went into gw2 wanting to dislike it and found reasons to do so. but whatever. don't know why i'm defending it. just don't play then.

There is nothing better than hearing WoW kiddies whining that PvP sucks because all they want is 1v1 and small group duels. WAR had great PvP, second to that of only DAoC I would say. The WvWvW stuff is going to be and already is epic and awesome. It might not be for everyone, but I could care less. It is the only real PvP in games.

If you want to talk about boring and non-dynamic, see WoW PvP and Arenas. I find it hilarious that you can bash this game's World PvP at all. It is 3 faction ... so it is obvious they are already doing something right.

As for the PvE stuff, yea, it is kind of generic. But It is still fun and different. I love the fact that it isn't linear and you can literally just "do whatever you want to do". You can go back and level with friends in other zones, or even just explore current level or lower areas ... they will still be challenging due to the scaling the game does. You also are still getting rewards, money, experience, achievements, etc. It is great.

Of course, I haven't played it much yet, but I already know that WvW is going to keep me occupied for months. It did in WAR, it most definitely will here too, as it feels much improved upon so far.

I don't either, but what does that really say? I don't have RL friends who PC game much at all, those who did gave it up after starting families (not able to afford the cost of maintaining a gaming ready PC, due to more important things). GW2 will have plenty of fans, it already does...

Originally posted by Veshi

Seems very bias, think this is what you thought all along after ingesting other peoples opinions of the game then called them your own. Iplayed WAR and the siege stuff was very poor compared to GW2, 2 faction, could only place siege equipment in certain places and would often have higher level characters dominating the area. 'I don't know a single person who,likes guild wars 2 in real life' yet you didnt tell us about the hundreds of friends of yours who tried it, 'I don't know a single person in real life' might have been a better title

Sorry but you dont have ¨certain places¨ to put sieges equipment in war, it was like that in the past, but now you can build it where you want. When people talking about gw2 being a war clone, is because, it is a war clone, if you take a look at the game now after the 1.4 update you´ll find the same RvR system that you have in gw2, even the supply system, but with the mistakes that warhammer did in the past, ¨the doorhammer¨. I saw people hitting a door for 30 min in gw2, and is the same thing with everysingle keep or objetive, adn the WvW map is build in a way where most of the time people will fight around the keeps. If they dont change anything gw2 WvW is doomed to fail, why? bc the game have the same mistakes that warhammer did have in the past.