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  colddog04

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 4715

5/14/12 3:51:17 AM#41
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  ozmono

Elite Member

Joined: 3/12/06
Posts: 680

 
5/14/12 3:51:59 AM#42
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Considering 100% of the population won't be rolling new characters in one of three starting zones, I think it's logical to assume that, at least for a few hours, it should be reasonable to expect some marginal improvement between the first beta weekend and the stress test.

"The good news is that we’re not wiping characters for this test; we’re using the same build that we used in the first Beta Weekend Event, so you’ll be able to pick up right where you left off."

The green quote is from the latest blog entry on the official site. I don't know what they mean by the same build as they talk about improvements too but it might be more good reason to adjust your expectations.

  SuperXero89

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/16/09
Posts: 2550

5/14/12 3:53:16 AM#43
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

  colddog04

Elite Member

Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 4715

5/14/12 3:56:16 AM#44
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

Sooo...

 

5 PM EST to 12 PM EST?

 

No, there won't be a lot of people logging in then at all.... just keep holding onto it a little longer. I kind of want to see what you'll say next.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  SuperXero89

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/16/09
Posts: 2550

5/14/12 3:59:36 AM#45
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

Sooo...

 

5 PM EST to 12 PM EST?

 

No, there won't be a lot of people logging in then at all.... just keep holding onto it a little longer. I kind of want to see what you'll say next.

2:00 PM EST actually....

Officially 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PDT

You don't even know when the beta begins or ends, and yet you talk down to me lol

  drel

Novice Member

Joined: 8/09/09
Posts: 923

5/14/12 4:00:02 AM#46

Nope-servers aren't open yet-thought I would at least try.

It is interesting the stress test is today-a work day for many of us.  Those in Europe and the East Coast of the USA will have a better chance to test the servers than those on the West Coast because of the time of the stress test.

Hopefully this will all lead to another major beta weekend(memorial weekend?) where the other two classes hopefully will be re-introduced.

With so many people pre purchasing the game, I would like to think the game will be released soon, within the next month or so-as long as the beta tests go well.

  colddog04

Elite Member

Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 4715

5/14/12 4:01:15 AM#47
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

Sooo...

 

5 PM EST to 12 PM EST?

 

No, there won't be a lot of people logging in then at all.... just keep holding onto it a little longer. I kind of want to see what you'll say next.

2:00 PM EST actually....

Officially 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PDT

You don't even know when the beta begins or ends, and yet you talk down to me lol

No. PDT is Pacific Daylight Time.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  SuperXero89

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/16/09
Posts: 2550

5/14/12 4:04:17 AM#48
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

Sooo...

 

5 PM EST to 12 PM EST?

 

No, there won't be a lot of people logging in then at all.... just keep holding onto it a little longer. I kind of want to see what you'll say next.

2:00 PM EST actually....

Officially 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PDT

You don't even know when the beta begins or ends, and yet you talk down to me lol

No. PDT is Pacific Daylight Time.

2:00 PM EDT? lol

  colddog04

Elite Member

Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 4715

5/14/12 4:06:56 AM#49
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
 
 Originally posted by SuperXero89

 

  
TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

 

 I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Yes. Because they are specifically testing their servers to find out how much they can take.

 

................

Only the press and those with pre-orders are allowed access.  No other beta invites are being sent out for this test.  I'm not sure where they're going to pull this fabled extra mass of players from.

From the people that have prepurchased since then and the overflow servers.

 

I can't believe you are seriously arguing this at this point.

Servers will come online on a Monday at 2:00.  Most people are going to be at school or at work.  I'm not saying the whole test will be a breeze, but there should be small windows of time on off hours where the servers aren't nearly as hammered as they will be.  It will be at those times where you should be able to see some improvements at least in performance and lag.

Sooo...

 

5 PM EST to 12 PM EST?

 

No, there won't be a lot of people logging in then at all.... just keep holding onto it a little longer. I kind of want to see what you'll say next.

2:00 PM EST actually....

Officially 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PDT

You don't even know when the beta begins or ends, and yet you talk down to me lol

No. PDT is Pacific Daylight Time.

2:00 PM EDT? lol

Oh, I'm an idiot. And you are right.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3559

5/14/12 4:07:08 AM#50
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by fiontar
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Korgborg
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by MMO_REVIEWER
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by vee41
Originally posted by SuperXero89

 

LMAO!

"before they all got burried by people claiming to have found Jesus"


It's also enough to prove that you were, quite possibly, in a small minority.

It's frustating I know, hope you work it out.

 

... and @ MMO_REVIEWER  It's just plain rude to suggest someone should update their graphics drivers!    /jk

That or they stopped playing because they got a headache running around with 12 FPS.  I know that played a large part in why I didn't play  nonstop all weekend.  Yes, performance did seem to improve, but optimization still needed major work, and the game was almost entirely CPU bound, a far cry from simply needing a few pre-release touchups as you seem to indicate.


People who can't play, post, and usually to vent their frustration. If anything, the game servers got busier and busier as the weekend progressed.

BTW, as to frame rates, I have a friend who played on a laptop with a GPU that just barely exceeded the minimum specs and rated Low/Low and the GPU performance estimate chart that's been floating around. He had some noticeable slow down in frame rates when there were dozens of people on screen, but he said even then it never became a "slide show" and was still playable. The rest of the time, he found the frame rate very acceptable and never had it dip low enough to be noticeable. He did set most things to low, but he was also happy with how the game looked.

I have a beefier system with a Geforce 570GTX and AMD Phenom II X6 running at 4.03 Ghz. Even though they warned that the game was not currently optimized to make much use of GPU power on higher end GPUs, I was able to play on max settings with no FPS issues, even during large events.

At some point, people need to just take responsibility for the fact that if you play on a low spec system, you may have to live with less than optimal performance. However, I was very happy that my friend found it completely playable, even before any serious optimization has taken place for the client.

Where there some people with good systems that had frame rate issues? Apparently, but a.) the game still needs to be optimized and b.) complaints to that effect were few and far between.

I don't care about anyone's personal experiences (copied from my previous post)

They were not few and far between.  mmorpg.com and the GW2 beta forums were lit up like a Christmas tree with people complaining about issues.  Your selective memory and desire to see GW2 in a more positive light apparently makes it difficult for you to recall.

I'm sorry, but that is just completely not true. For a test with hundreds of thousands of participants, the volume and scope of issues were extremely small. I must have spent at least ten hours total in the days following the end of the event reading every thread I could find on the beta forums that would give me an idea how the test fared for the masses. There were no indications of severe, wide spread issues.

Maybe you haven't been involved in many MMO betas, but I've seen 20X or more the volume of issues related feedback on games with a tenth the number of testers!

I think you are considering a few dozen people having a shared issues to be an indication of a widespread problem, totally forgetting that there were indeed hundreds of thousands of testers.

I've seen beta forum melt downs under an avalanche of widespread issues and the GW2 BWE1 feedback was about as completely the opposite of that as I can imagine. Most games don't get such a low ratio of complaints/issues just before launch and many continue to track major complaints for months after launch.

You are literally making a mountain out of a tiny mole hill!

(BTW, I love the irony of your statements that people's personal experiences don't matter, while taking the personal experiences of maybe 1/10th of 1% of all testers, who did report major issues, as indicitive of those issues being wide spread).

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3559

5/14/12 4:15:39 AM#51
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by CookieTime
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I used to take your posts seriously but now.. you kinda lost credibility. Expecting major improvement on a stress test day?? Oh I can already see you'll be coming back to this forums in full force on tuesday, because apparently you have no idea what a stress test is..

Am I lead to believe there will be more people logged into GW2 at 2:00 on a Monday afternoon than whenever the servers went live for the first beta weekend on a Friday?

Considering 100% of the population won't be rolling new characters in one of three starting zones, I think it's logical to assume that, at least for a few hours, it should be reasonable to expect some marginal improvement between the first beta weekend and the stress test.

"The good news is that we’re not wiping characters for this test; we’re using the same build that we used in the first Beta Weekend Event, so you’ll be able to pick up right where you left off."

The green quote is from the latest blog entry on the official site. I don't know what they mean by the same build as they talk about improvements too but it might be more good reason to adjust your expectations.

There can be hardware and software tweaks server side that don't touch the client. I did get a small patch yesterday, but I wouldn't expect any major client side changes.

Also, it is a stress test and they will likely be creating chokepoints in their infrastructure during the test intentionally, as part of the process of tuning server capacity and hardware requirements. It's not uncommon and many games don't do such stress testing until the last pre-launch beta or even during headstart, so I'm glad Arenanet are actually doing it in advance of the next BWE. (They also did a stress test over a week before BWE1). So, there may be a lot of issues today, even more than we saw during the BWE, but if so, it's just part of what a stress test does. (Although, I'll admit, I'm hoping it will be pretty smooth, so we can all get the most in game time as possible during the seven hour window).

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  warmaster670

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5/14/12 4:17:37 AM#52

Really? we still get this crap? when are people going to realize that gamestop and any other retailer, more than likely doesnt know any better than you when a games coming out.

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

  SuperXero89

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Joined: 8/16/09
Posts: 2550

5/14/12 4:18:07 AM#53
Originally posted by fiontar
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by fiontar
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Korgborg
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by MMO_REVIEWER
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by vee41
Originally posted by SuperXero89

 

LMAO!

"before they all got burried by people claiming to have found Jesus"


It's also enough to prove that you were, quite possibly, in a small minority.

It's frustating I know, hope you work it out.

 

... and @ MMO_REVIEWER  It's just plain rude to suggest someone should update their graphics drivers!    /jk

That or they stopped playing because they got a headache running around with 12 FPS.  I know that played a large part in why I didn't play  nonstop all weekend.  Yes, performance did seem to improve, but optimization still needed major work, and the game was almost entirely CPU bound, a far cry from simply needing a few pre-release touchups as you seem to indicate.


People who can't play, post, and usually to vent their frustration. If anything, the game servers got busier and busier as the weekend progressed.

BTW, as to frame rates, I have a friend who played on a laptop with a GPU that just barely exceeded the minimum specs and rated Low/Low and the GPU performance estimate chart that's been floating around. He had some noticeable slow down in frame rates when there were dozens of people on screen, but he said even then it never became a "slide show" and was still playable. The rest of the time, he found the frame rate very acceptable and never had it dip low enough to be noticeable. He did set most things to low, but he was also happy with how the game looked.

I have a beefier system with a Geforce 570GTX and AMD Phenom II X6 running at 4.03 Ghz. Even though they warned that the game was not currently optimized to make much use of GPU power on higher end GPUs, I was able to play on max settings with no FPS issues, even during large events.

At some point, people need to just take responsibility for the fact that if you play on a low spec system, you may have to live with less than optimal performance. However, I was very happy that my friend found it completely playable, even before any serious optimization has taken place for the client.

Where there some people with good systems that had frame rate issues? Apparently, but a.) the game still needs to be optimized and b.) complaints to that effect were few and far between.

I don't care about anyone's personal experiences (copied from my previous post)

They were not few and far between.  mmorpg.com and the GW2 beta forums were lit up like a Christmas tree with people complaining about issues.  Your selective memory and desire to see GW2 in a more positive light apparently makes it difficult for you to recall.

I'm sorry, but that is just completely not true. For a test with hundreds of thousands of participants, the volume and scope of issues were extremely small. I must have spent at least ten hours total in the days following the end of the event reading every thread I could find on the beta forums that would give me an idea how the test fared for the masses. There were no indications of severe, wide spread issues.

Maybe you haven't been involved in many MMO betas, but I've seen 20X or more the volume of issues related feedback on games with a tenth the number of testers!

I think you are considering a few dozen people having a shared issues to be an indication of a widespread problem, totally forgetting that there were indeed hundreds of thousands of testers.

I've seen beta forum melt downs under an avelanche of widespread issues and the GW2 BWE1 feedback was about as completely the opposite of that as I can imagine. Most games don't get such a low ratio of complaints/issues just before launch and many continue to track major complaints for months after launch.

You are literally making a mountain out of a tiny mole hill!

(BTW, I love the irony of your statements that people's personal experiences don't matter, while taking the personal experiences of maybe 1/10th of 1% of all testers who reported major issues as indicitive of wide spread issues).

How many of the "hundreds of thousands of participants" in the beta actually bother to even post on any forums?  You've opened up a real pandoras box with that one.

12 FPS while doing anything interesting is not making a mountain out of a molehill now and it sure won't be at release. That's calling an unplayable game unplayable.

The point of bringing up issues of people with problems indicates the validity of my statements when I say problems exist.  When your only counter arguments are I didn't have any problems or my best friend's wife's brother didn't have any problems, you aren't countering anything I'm saying.  You are only saying that because you never encountered problems and because your friends never encountered problems, there either are no problems or they are so minut that they are a non-issue.  

Anet went so far as to say the game is nearly 100% CPU bound.  At this point it's a virtual crapshoot as to whether or not you get a solid framerate.  That's another reason why I don't care about your personal experiences.  The game isn't even close to optimized at this point, so stop trying to argue.

As of right now, there's next to nothing that you've said that I haven't heard from a SW:TOR fanboy or a fan of any of the failed beta tests that I'm oh so sure you've actually participated in.  It's easy to sweep major problems under the rug, calling them minor, non-issues, but you better be sure you're consistant when you do such.  

  User Deleted
5/14/12 4:23:21 AM#54
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Korgborg
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by MMO_REVIEWER
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by vee41
Originally posted by SuperXero89

 

LMAO!

"before they all got burried by people claiming to have found Jesus"


It's also enough to prove that you were, quite possibly, in a small minority.

It's frustating I know, hope you work it out.

 

... and @ MMO_REVIEWER  It's just plain rude to suggest someone should update their graphics drivers!    /jk

That or they stopped playing because they got a headache running around with 12 FPS.  I know that played a large part in why I didn't play  nonstop all weekend.  Yes, performance did seem to improve, but optimization still needed major work, and the game was almost entirely CPU bound, a far cry from simply needing a few pre-release touchups as you seem to indicate.

Sorry, don't remember indicating it only needed "a few pre-release touchups" My bad.

Again, hope you work it out.

 

  Kykyryz-a

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Joined: 7/19/10
Posts: 114

5/14/12 4:28:00 AM#55

SuperXero89- (as much as i dont get ppl who add their birth year in nicknames)

we all got it  ok you can stop  being fat troll...  as you answering to any actuall example with  Copy/ pasting you own words  "i dont care about other ppl i hate world and everythg onside it"

Cmon give it a rest go play what ever you like if you  was in BE want to check  todays Stress test and tring to  say only Press is invited for it.... just strange.

oh and just to remind you    OP was   "Release date"  

i know you want 3k posts    but its time to switch to new one 

  Byrhofen

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Political correctness is tyranny with manners

5/14/12 4:29:52 AM#56
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by vee41
Originally posted by SuperXero89

TSW's release date is nearly a month away and people are freaking out over the state of the game as seen in this weekend's beta test.  Unless Anet puts some major work into their game, fans better hope GW2 isn't released a mere 10 days later.  The last beta weekend was an epic mess, and I hope to see some major improvement on Monday's stress test and the May beta weekend.

I can predict lots of people disagreeing with you soon.. :)

Apart from few hours I could not login everything worked smooth as pie for me. And the build they are using for todays stress test is same used for first BWE.

I don't doubt it, and they will be proven wrong.

Proven wrong how?

Yes, there were some login issues on the friday, but once they were sorted out, it was fairly smooth for the rest of the BWE.

Far from the epic mess you claim it to have been.

Do they have things that need to be fixed or worked on, of course they do, but all MMOs are the same, even ones that have been released.

Again, that does not make it the epic mess that you claim it to have been.

Actually, I would go so far as to say having played GW2 during the BWE, and playing TSW during its BWE, GW2 is closer to a releaseable state than TSW is.

I don't care about anyone's personal experiences.  I did not experience any login issues on Friday, likewise, I guess you didn't experience a crippling framerate, massive lag, or broken instance loading.  Login issues of a different sort even pervaded all throughout the beta.  God help you if you logged out in the Mists as you're gonna have to spam the login button about 25 times to finally get in.  Fact of the matter is even if you or I didn't experience all of these specific issues, it doesn't mean they didn't occur in any capacity.  The huge propensity of threads made about the subject during the beta weekend is evidence enough of that.  

Couple all these issues with the massive AoE spam during dynamic events and the broken melee combat, and issues with the overflow server, I'd say Guild Wars 2 needs far more time in the oven than TSW.  Everyone keeps going on about how bad the animations and optimization are in TSW, but the animations in GW2 were never the greatest and at least TSW actually realizes I have a video card installed in my machine.  GW2 is more poorly optimized than Vanguard was at release, and that alone will absolutely kill the game unless they make massive changes between now and release.

 

Right, so you do not care about anyone's personal experiences, but then you go on to lump together a few "personal experiences" that people mentioned on forums, to add weight to your view point.

Hypocritical dont you think?

At the end of the day, everything posted on all the various forums and gaming sites with regards to GW2 and the BWE, all boils down to someones personal experience and what they thought of it.

Considering that the majority of those personal experiences were positive, the BWE for GW2 was still far from the epic mess you claim it was.

To go one step further, considering you do not care about anyones personal experiences, the BWE for GW2 had no issues at all, everything was fine, and the people that did claim to have issues are invalid, as their personal experience does not count ;P

A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 15540

5/14/12 4:33:42 AM#57
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Never ever consider a GameStop release date to be an official release date. :) 

Next you tell us that Amazons dates are exact science either... ;)

I have a feeling that ANET might give us a date a week or so after the next BWE.

  aesperus

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 3784

5/14/12 4:34:50 AM#58

1) It's only a stress test. They do a stress test before all main BWEs. They even did something similar w/ GW1.

2) We don't have a release date. Let me repeat that. We do not have a release date. If you are trusting gamestop for accurate info, then I really hope you haven't started the bulk of your education yet. You've got a lot to learn.

3) Graphic tweaks are always the last things to touch a game. This is without exception. Even look at TSW's graphics. They aren't optimised yet either. Graphical tweaks come only when a company feels they have the final build of the game. Never before. This is because further tweaks to the client could throw off thier optimization, depending on what they need to do. If anything, once you start seeing graphics being tweaked heavily, you can expect a release to come usually within a month or 2.

- Expect multiple BWEs. They had a bunch w/ GW1 leading up to release, and continued to tweak the game with each one. We've seen that the game has a lot in it, and a lot of the features are in, and working more or less correct. However, there are still a lot of bugs, minor tweaks, and features that need to be added in addition to the 2 other races. It's looking like the asura may possibly be in the next BWE, but we haven't seen even a hint of the sylvari yet.

  aesperus

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 3784

5/14/12 4:36:00 AM#59
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Never ever consider a GameStop release date to be an official release date. :) 

Next you tell us that Amazons dates are exact science either... ;)

I have a feeling that ANET might give us a date a week or so after the next BWE.

I think that's really going to depend on the feedback they get from the next event. Some things they won't be able to change much about (personal story), but others they seem to be pretty concerned about making sure they are right before they push this game out.

  SuperXero89

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Joined: 8/16/09
Posts: 2550

5/14/12 4:37:28 AM#60
Originally posted by Kykyryz-a

SuperXero89- (as much as i dont get ppl who add their birth year in nicknames)

Because the name without the numbers was taken? 

we all got it  ok you can stop  being fat troll...  as you answering to any actuall example with  Copy/ pasting you own words  "i dont care about other ppl i hate world and everythg onside it"

I tell people I don't care, and yet people do nothing else but give me more personal anecdotes.

Cmon give it a rest go play what ever you like if you  was in BE want to check  todays Stress test and tring to  say only Press is invited for it.... just strange

It would be strange IF I said that.  I didn't say that, so I don't know what you're talking about.

oh and just to remind you    OP was   "Release date"

And I think you would be hard pressed to argue that I didn't voice my opinion on that subject; however, dare I make any sort of derogatory comment about GW2 and I get swamped with people, calling me an idiot saying that the GW2 beta weekend was far and away one of the most hassle free betas they've ever been a part of.  I will defend what I said and if it takes 4 pages of nothing but me arguing with other people to get my point across, so be it.  My entire point of existance isn't to please you or to make this forum a better place.  If you can't handle what I have to say, put me on ignore and get on with your life.

 

i know you want 3k posts    but its time to switch to new one 

 

 

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