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  pongdun

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5/13/12 2:22:17 AM#1

Hi guys.. I'm playing Tera at the moment.. and I missed all the oportunities to play GW2 betas :(

I would like to understand one thing, I read a guy said he liked a lot GW2 and that there was no grind or PVE at all. Is that right?

I'm very curious about GW2 and never played GW1, its a different MMO? There's no PVE or raids, etc.. just PVP?

ty for answering!

  skipper2s

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5/13/12 2:28:58 AM#2

The game has PVE , but it's based on dynamic events , quests that actually change the world around you , not just say "You are our Champion!!" , as for the raids , from what i understood , there will be raids/dungeons/instances.

The beautiful thing about GW2 is the fact that you can actually run around the world doing stuff other than quests for leveling.There are alot of puzzles , skill chalenges etc.

I will enjoy gw2 when it'll finally come out , i will buy it without even a bit of doubt in my mind that it will be an extraordinary game!

  Kreedz

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5/13/12 2:34:24 AM#3

While the leveling and experience gains are still being tweaked in GW2, It never feels like a grind. Which is in stark contrast to a game like TERA where it does slow down tremendously past lvl 30.

There is a lot of PvE in GW2 though, but there is also a lot of fun to be had in PvP, and there is a seperation between the two so you wont be disrupted by ganks while youre trying to complete one of the games hundreds (thousands?) of dynamic events.

 

I would suggest looking more into GW2 if youre after a fresh take on the MMO Genre.

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  freston

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5/13/12 2:37:19 AM#4

If your friend told you GW2 has no pve i think he is not a very trustwortthy source of information. Most people are playing gw2 for the pve, even though it has very good pvp too

  Jetrpg

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5/13/12 2:37:58 AM#5

GW1 =/= gw2 correct. GW2 is no "grind" becuase you can pretty much do whatever where ever you want to. You just run around and it works

 

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  Ashen_X

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5/13/12 2:50:11 AM#6

There will be PVE.

 

As to whether or not there will be Grind, we don't know yet. There has been only one weekend beta event so far.

Cryptic says that they are going grindless, and I tend to believe them, but we cannot say for sure that they have succeeded in this until we have more opportunity to explore the game.

When all has been said and done, more will have been said than done.

  pongdun

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5/13/12 2:50:15 AM#7

Hi guys, ty for answering.

Got it.. I think when he told he mean that its not that boring grinding... like Tera for example!

By what you guys are saying it will be an amazing game! When will it be released? This year at least???

  Kagnesti

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5/13/12 2:51:01 AM#8


Originally posted by pongdun
Hi guys, ty for answering.
Got it.. I think when he told he mean that its not that boring grinding... like Tera for example!
By what you guys are saying it will be an amazing game! When will it be released? This year at least???


no ETA but they will release in 2012

  tomtom976

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5/13/12 2:53:19 AM#9

It does have PvE. It's more of an exploration and dynamic event based leveling game as opposed to a quest hub style game. It doesn't really feel like a grind at all to me.

It also has structured / competitive PvP, as well as large scale world vs world vs world siege PvP.

The dungeon instances are 5 person with story mode (normal) and explorable mode (heroic).

There are no traditional raid instances in the game, but there are outdoor elite group events.

Example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU

 

Overall I'm really looking forward to more beta weekends and release. I haven't had as much fun playing an MMO since the early days of EQ1.

 

Edit - Typo

  Butregenyo

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5/13/12 2:53:53 AM#10

GW2 is the best PVE i have tried since EQ2, it feels better, retard people whine about how content cannot be dynamic but it is. Also the scale is huge there is too much to do. And there is the sidekicking systems that levels you down so you can go to other low level areas and play them with a decent challenge while gaining levels from those low level events. After playing guild wars 2 i couldnt go back to any mmo i played.

Right now i am playing tera, i am 40+ but the quest grinding is killing me. But i have fun ganking people, one shotting peeps one level below me. But it lasts only because the combat system is nice. Nothing more. But in guild wars 2, every aspect of the game you touch and try has depth. Everything is well designed and thought on.

When you press M and the world map grows on you, you see how many skills points and point of interests you have left to complete. This feels really good because the progression is horizontal. You just help the world and accomplish stuff, be useful and change the world. And ding, you get levels without even noticing. Other games with vertical progression with an exponential levling curve makes you count the monsters you have got to slay and quests (by quest i mean huge meaningless wall of text with an accept button at the bottom of it) you have got to finish. You dont need that meta thinking in GW2, it is so fun!

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I can't believe i liked pve that much because i am mostly a pvp player. but i will totaly play the whole content in gw2. It is fun. I didnt have that much fun in any other game. There is so much to do, you dont even repeat a single event to lvl 80. (i know some people didnt know that they could level on other low level zones so they were left behind the area level, waiting for the events to re-trigger. This is not the way you should play gw2)

  vee41

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5/13/12 4:26:18 AM#11

PvE wise GW2 is a huuuge change to your average MMO. There really is no endgame (link to a pimpin' blog post), you can do almost the same basic things in level 2 as you do on level 80. So it all becomes about fun rather than progress and developing your character. Also PVP is mostly level irrelevant, structured PvP is equal playground with no way to gain statistical advantage over others and WvWvW scales you up to level 80. I understood gear still matters there but does not play huge role as it really does not in any part of the game. 

  Classicstar

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5/13/12 4:35:28 AM#12


Originally posted by pongdun
Hi guys.. I'm playing Tera at the moment.. and I missed all the oportunities to play GW2 betas :(
I would like to understand one thing, I read a guy said he liked a lot GW2 and that there was no grind or PVE at all. Is that right?
I'm very curious about GW2 and never played GW1, its a different MMO? There's no PVE or raids, etc.. just PVP?
ty for answering!

Don't take everything so serious when people claim something. Offcorse GW2 also have some kind of grind as long you need to invest in your character and game its a grind.

But its how a gamedeveloper package this grind is importend and GW2 give you alot of freedom and dynamic events that most of game don't give you any feeling of grind it makes it FUN to go through game content. Thats why many sy no grind.

Majority give you games that hold your hand and lead you through game by going to npcs and quest hubs for example TERA and kill 10x trees(rats, boars, wolfs its all the same) and so on that gives alot more feel of another grind that we already had in thousends of other mmo's. GW2 don't do this they appraoched it totally different then most mmo's.

Its now up to you to deside you like it or not, after all only thing that counts is having FUN RIGHT?

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  drel

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5/13/12 4:39:13 AM#13
Originally posted by Classicstar

 


Originally posted by pongdun
Hi guys.. I'm playing Tera at the moment.. and I missed all the oportunities to play GW2 betas :(
I would like to understand one thing, I read a guy said he liked a lot GW2 and that there was no grind or PVE at all. Is that right?
I'm very curious about GW2 and never played GW1, its a different MMO? There's no PVE or raids, etc.. just PVP?
ty for answering!


 

Don't take everything so serious when people claim something. Offcorse GW2 also have some kind of grind as long you need to invest in your character and game its a grind.

But its how a gamedeveloper package this grind is importend and GW2 give you alot of freedom and dynamic events that most of game don't give you any feeling of grind it makes it FUN to go through game content. Thats why many sy no grind.

Majority give you games that hold your hand and lead you through game by going to npcs and quest hubs for example TERA and kill 10x trees(rats, boars, wolfs its all the same) and so on that gives alot more feel of another grind that we already had in thousends of other mmo's. GW2 don't do this they appraoched it totally different then most mmo's.

Its now up to you to deside you like it or not, after all only thing that counts is having FUN RIGHT?


I agree with this post.  If there is grind in GW2, it is well hidden.  It is not like other MMO's where you have to go kill "X" number of something in order to proceed to the next level or skill.

  Apraxis

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5/13/12 5:55:39 AM#14

Yeap. There is more or less no grind.

- No gear grind. Armor stats is capped.

- You can go at any time to WvW or sPvP and will be upscaled in Lvl instantly, therefore no need to grind PvE to play PvP

But there is PvE, but you can enjoy it very relaxed without the pressure to grind or to rush anything to be able to play or compete in PvP. Therefore you can just do at any time whatever you want without worrying to lay behind competively.

And for everyone sick of the grind, there is no gear grind, pve grind, quest grind and this this is very refreshing. Just play what you want, when you want and how you want it.

  Horatio_Kane

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5/13/12 8:09:01 AM#15
Originally posted by pongdun

Hi guys.. I'm playing Tera at the moment.. and I missed all the oportunities to play GW2 betas :(

I would like to understand one thing, I read a guy said he liked a lot GW2 and that there was no grind or PVE at all. Is that right?

I'm very curious about GW2 and never played GW1, its a different MMO? There's no PVE or raids, etc.. just PVP?

ty for answering!

The quality of PvE is meant to be higher and less cumbersome, grind is a derogatory term for a levelling process that is boring.

It's not meant to be a grind because the events/levelling process is meant to be more organic and entertaining, so you spend less time thinking about levelling up and more time having fun.

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  Volkon

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5/13/12 8:46:54 AM#16

   There is no required grind. You can choose to "grind" things if you wish... maybe run around the world looking for plants and veggies for cooking, try to complete as many of the dynamic events as possible, complete all the dungeons and acquire all the unique armor sets from explorer mode, etc. BUT, there will be no static "kill ten trees" quests forcing you on a linear path. There will be no "tiered" armor at endgame, forcing you into a single dungeon (or set of dungeons) to try and luck out on a roll of the dice if a piece of gear you can even use drops. There's no gear score. No recount. You're free to play how you see fit, and you will never "fall behind" people because you don't raid three nights a week. The treadmill is gone, the trinity is gone, gear=power is gone. PvP gear is gone, there is no resilience or equally baneful abomination.

    Play. Explore. Have fun, your own way. The entire game remains open for you, not just the end.

 

    (Oh, as a caveat to that last sentence... you cannot have fun at other people's expense. You can't kill steal from them. You can't take their nodes. You can't kill people from your own server. You can't mess up their events. The worst you can do is not rez someone.)

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Searias

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5/13/12 8:57:05 AM#17
Originally posted by drel

I agree with this post.  If there is grind in GW2, it is well hidden.  It is not like other MMO's where you have to go kill "X" number of something in order to proceed to the next level or skill.

This is sort of true, since most of the quest areas you are given multiple objects to complete the quest, but there is a grind though, they won't tell you to kill X number of rats to complete a quest, instead they have a bar and everytime you kill a rat a bit of that bar gets filled up and once you hit 100% the quest or objective is complete.

  Quizzical

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5/13/12 9:00:17 AM#18
Originally posted by Ashen_X

Cryptic says that they are going grindless,

Wait, what?

  Volkon

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5/13/12 9:01:19 AM#19
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by drel

I agree with this post.  If there is grind in GW2, it is well hidden.  It is not like other MMO's where you have to go kill "X" number of something in order to proceed to the next level or skill.

This is sort of true, since most of the quest areas you are given multiple objects to complete the quest, but there is a grind though, they won't tell you to kill X number of rats to complete a quest, instead they have a bar and everytime you kill a rat a bit of that bar gets filled up and once you hit 100% the quest or objective is complete.

Not just you. Everyone one around you is working towards the same goal instead of competing against each other to accomplish a personal goal. See those five guys next to you killing things as well? Partied or not, you're all in it together, fighting together instead of against each other.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  vee41

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5/13/12 9:03:54 AM#20
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Ashen_X

Cryptic says that they are going grindless,

Wait, what?

Run! It's a trap! They lied to us all along! It's a cryptic gameeeaaaaaaaHHH!

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