D3 definitely seems like it'll be the winner (avoided voting "wait til I play em all" because obviously that seals the final verdict and the poll is no fun if you choose that option :P )

Torchlight 1 just seemed like Diablo 2 without a soul, so I'm not too sure if I'll enjoy Torchlight 2 (though I'll likely try it.)  That said, we'll have to see if Diablo 3 is Diablo 2 without a soul first. ;)

Path of Exile on first glance seems to have little of the gameplay that makes an action RPG fun, so I'm not sure if that's even in the running.  May still try it though, since it's free, and if it's as mediocre as it looks at least it won't cost me anything.

Originally posted by Banisco

Im Team Edward!

I prefer Team Alice.

Originally posted by xxpigxx

Originally posted by Banisco

Im Team Edward!

 

 

I prefer Team Alice.

 

 

I'll second that.

Path of Exile - 10 bucks for Closed Beta (refunded via cash shop)

Torchlight 2 - 20 bucks

So for half the price of D3 you can get two games that are likely to be solid. I haven't played D3, I heard it's good, but Path of Exile is great and Torchlight was a great game so I don't think you can go wrong with those 2 if you are on a budget. And of course D3 if you aren't.

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Anyone that likes Diablo 3 over Path of Exile or Torchlight 2 is part of the Call of Duty generation, to be frank.

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2.

Originally posted by ArEf

Anyone that likes Diablo 3 over Path of Exile or Torchlight 2 is part of the Call of Duty generation, to be frank.

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2.

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

Originally posted by Aori

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

Again, fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2. Post a picture of a character with the name "Hi ArEf" and then I'll believe you.

Path of Exile is very oldschool and very, VERY hard.

I voted for TL2 and D3. I will eventually probably get around to trying out PoE after its release, and maybe even Grim Dawn (surprised it didn't figure in the poll). I have gotten a bit squeemish about registering to just any website after the rash of hacker attacks. I am limiting where I go now to places either where I do not have to register or going with companies that already have my details, just in case my information did not get stolen.

Anyway, there are plenty of choices this year for ARPG fans, which is just great considering the lull in the genre for several years. I think it is telling that in my eyes the most recent good one to ship was TL1...

Originally posted by ArEf

Originally posted by Aori

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

Again, fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2. Post a picture of a character with the name "Hi ArEf" and then I'll believe you.

Path of Exile is very oldschool and very, VERY hard.

I don't understand what you're arguing with me for? You're just saying I never played TL2 and nothing else. Either you are upset with me because TL2 isn't fun or you're upset because you think it will have staying power for each individual.

As for PoE being oldschool and hard.. if by not trying to fall asleep = hard then sure. The game is to slow paced for me, ARPGs are fun, exciting and countinous slaughter.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by ArEf

Anyone that likes Diablo 3 over Path of Exile or Torchlight 2 is part of the Call of Duty generation, to be frank.

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2.

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

I've gotta say that, from the betas, PoE has the most randomness in maps, then Torchlight 2, then Diablo III.

PoE the maps change completely. Torchlight 2 has different 'routes' that appear but sometimes you hit the same ones if repreating, I 'think' there are some random quests in there because not everyone found the fisher boat quest (But they might have just missed it). Torchlight 1 had a neverending dungeon at the end, not sure if Torchlight 2 does as well though but I hope it does. Diablo III seem about 80% static in level design with new dungeons/cellers/caves that crop up ocassionally, it also has random events/quests it seems but not tons of them (in the beta).

Will any of them get boring in the long run? No one can answer that properly yet, only PoE can be fully played and I didn't play it for too long because I'd rather wait for release.

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by ArEf

Anyone that likes Diablo 3 over Path of Exile or Torchlight 2 is part of the Call of Duty generation, to be frank.

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2.

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

I've gotta say that, from the betas, PoE has the most randomness in maps, then Torchlight 2, then Diablo III.

PoE the maps change completely. Torchlight 2 has different 'routes' that appear but sometimes you hit the same ones if repreating, I 'think' there are some random quests in there because not everyone found the fisher boat quest (But they might have just missed it). Diablo III seem about 80% static in level design with new dungeons/cellers/caves that crop up ocassionally, it also has random events/quests it seems.

Will any of them get boring in the long run? No one can answer that properly yet, only PoE can be fully played and I didn't play it for too long because I'd rather wait for release.

The map thing thus far has been one of my only complaints with D3, we'll see how the game really unfolds on the 15th though.

I go for freedom of offline-lan or mods no DRM so im TOTAL fan of PoE and TL2.

Its not that i hate D3 its just limitations and and control through aweful battlenet and run by money grabbing company that have changed D3 way to much, i realy don't like and i know im in very small groupe that oppose this that dislike D3 and everything involved around it but hey it will win nomatter what crap blizzard dumb on the market it will be succes right?... so my dislike don't matter at all hehe:)

Have fun with Diablo3 ill have fun with indie competion TL2 and PoE.

Originally posted by Classicstar

I go for freedom of offline-lan or mods no DRM so im TOTAL fan of PoE and TL2.

Its not that i hate D3 its just limitations and and control through aweful battlenet and run by money grabbing company that have changed D3 way to much, i realy don't like and i know im in very small groupe that oppose this that dislike D3 and everything involved around it but hey it will win nomatter what crap blizzard dumb on the market it will be succes right?... so my dislike don't matter at all hehe:)

Have fun with Diablo3 ill have fun with indie competion TL2 and PoE.

...really? PoE is online only with no mods. So by your post you should not want to play as with diablo 3.

As for TL2 for single player and mods it'll be fun but thats about it.

Torchlight 2 for me. Diablo 3 is just another Activi$$$ion title (no ladder, no mods, etc), I've watched the full cinematics and they are the only great thing about the game tbh

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

 

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Eh, I'd have to put TL2 ahead of PoE, but just barely. TL2 doesn't have gender locked classes, plus each class feels unique, whereas PoE's mishmash of a skill tree is innovative, but leaves me feeling like there's no real reason to pick one class over the other. If any class can be effective with any build, then why even have classes in the first place? Just do away with them entirely and have players pick between a male and female character, pick a starting skill gem, and go! In fact, I'd prefer that approach, as it would feel like good old UO in a more action-oriented format.

I will admit that neither class I've played thus far in TL2  (engineer and embermage) has really grabbed me though. I'll buy the game regardless, as I'm a big fan of Runic Games. Plus it'll be a nice way to get my ARPG fix if the internet goes down in my area.

D3 just wins overall though. Its got a promising story, good graphics, great gameplay, tons of character customization and depth, memorable classes... the game is just head & shoulders above the competition. As it should be, it's a $60+ AAA title from a seasoned developer, under the series name which can arguably be credited as being the originator of the modern ARPG. If it couldn't beat out a $20 budget title and a F2P game, then the dev team should be shot. In the face. With a bazooka.

Edit: Almost forgot! One thing I discovered about TL2 which I loathe is the fact you can't combine lower tier gems into a higher tier one anymore. Of all the changes to the game, this one makes the least sense.

Come to think of it, I wonder if Diablo 3 has completely done away with the 'horadric cube' type mechanics? I should certainly hope not, finding new recipes with that thing was always great fun (unless you looked them up, cheaters! :P).

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by ArEf

Anyone that likes Diablo 3 over Path of Exile or Torchlight 2 is part of the Call of Duty generation, to be frank.

Originally posted by franko79

D3 >= PoE > Torchlight 2

Diablo 3 - its blizzard = AAA title

PoE - great free h&s for more demanding gamers, better with every month.

torchlight 2 - fun little h&s, but can be boring in long term.

Fairly obviously never played Torchlight 2.

Actually he is spot on.. it'll be a fun little hack n slash but there is no persistance with it so it'll get boring for the majority of players.

I Just don't understand his PoE comment of how its for more demanding gamers.. whats that mean?

I've gotta say that, from the betas, PoE has the most randomness in maps, then Torchlight 2, then Diablo III.

PoE the maps change completely. Torchlight 2 has different 'routes' that appear but sometimes you hit the same ones if repreating, I 'think' there are some random quests in there because not everyone found the fisher boat quest (But they might have just missed it). Diablo III seem about 80% static in level design with new dungeons/cellers/caves that crop up ocassionally, it also has random events/quests it seems.

Will any of them get boring in the long run? No one can answer that properly yet, only PoE can be fully played and I didn't play it for too long because I'd rather wait for release.

The map thing thus far has been one of my only complaints with D3, we'll see how the game really unfolds on the 15th though.

Torchlight 2 also has the dungeon maps you can buy from vendors that provide infinate dungeons to do, I just found one ingame. It seems the main story maps don't respawn enemies or loot though, so I'm glad those dungeon maps are in there.

Originally posted by just1opinion

I used to be a huge Diablo fan, yet I can't help but think....they seem to have taken all the Diablo out of Diablo III, so....I'm still buying it, but I'm not very excited about it.  Torchlight, however, was a fave of mine too and I think T2 will be true to Torchlight, so I am looking forward to it much more than D3.  I am, however, buying both.  Path of Exile....I have no strong feelings for and will give it a pass.

Yeah I'm really hoping for the best with D3 but I do have a bad feeling.  The few beta reviews I've read all mention how there is little open space and you literally follow a path from beginning to end.  The fact that stats and skills are automatically given to you is a big let down.  Plus being able to sell items for real money in a game like Diablo is not a good idea.

Originally posted by Vannor

Since these are all listed as MMO on this site (I know they are not MMOs) I figure this is the place to post this.

Excellent idea :)

Path of Exile...

is rough around the edges but has potential and the closer view kinda bugs me a little. There is a lack of variety in item appearance as well. The skill system however is truely unique and the passive skill grid thingy is really good, these are both fun to play around with.

Excellent game with real old school feeling of D2. Skill system is awesome. And I am sure the game will win some hardcore audiences.

Alas, gameplay is old fashioned. And perhaps least fun of the 3.

Diablo III...

is good and nicely polished but the change in skill system is a downer for me, as is not being able to have access all your skills at the same time or being able to make your character truely unique. Great voiceovers, best graphics, well established IP with a better ongoing narrative than the others.

Its a bit of a cat in the bag. What we know is based on "blizzard can not do wrong" (but they can as we seen in Bioware+SWTOR case) and on pretty meek beta. On other hand D3 innovates the most, and dares to change all.

Skill system that i opposed seems heaven send after second thought. No more junk builds , being able to play as you want , when you want. And skills that really mater and are unique in gameplay effect (not just same versions of other skill)

Still unpopular choices like high price , RMAH , always on DRM, no game browser - are huge deterrent.

I am going to play it though and here is my reasoning:

Simply everyone is going to play it. And community will be huge. I find this important.

Plus. I think (and this is based only on talk) that the gameplay will be the best of the 3

 

Torchlight 2...

seems to be the middle man and ticks all the boxes for me, it's far closer to Diablo II than Diablo III is (except being the established IP that is Diablo of course). It's not as customizable in the skills department as PoE but is more so than Diablo III. The item appearance customization is on a par with Diablo III, yet Diablo III has the better graphics and better design. The pet system is unique to Fate 1 + 2 and Torchlight 1 + 2 (same developers I believe?), it certainly has it's place in this kind of game.

Big bag of excellent !

It does everything D3 does + its cheap + server browser + single player + no RMAH

Gameplay is fun - Runic really understand the genre (since they invented it)

Only bad areas are:

Graphic and story are real cartoony . Skill system is old school (good or bad?) and suffers from exact opposite of D3. Online mode will be hacked.

Opposite of D3 , community will be smaller. And online play riddled with cheaters.

For me this game could be a choice game , if it was launched before D3. And I am sure many would agree.

Now with 60$ invested in D3 (and GW2) on horison , T2 will probably be bargain bin buy :(

 

I've got to give it to Torchlight 2. I will be playing all of them though.

All just my opinion of course.

 

Diablo 3, Torchlight 2 and Lineage Eternal are the promising ones for me.