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General Discussion  » Now the [Weekend Beta] NDA is lifted.... how big is the game world really?

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  JeroKane

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OP  5/12/12 6:35:07 AM#1

So far (what's available in this weekend), the City of London is a HUGE dissapointment!

It's just a tiny hub!  A small block with just a couple of streets!

The world map is not available (how convinient to close that off from us), but fortunately the full Achievement system reveils the following:

- 3 tiny city hubs (London, NY, Seoul)

- 3 open areas ONLY (Kingsmouth, Scorced Desert and Transylvania) ???

- Bunch of instanced Dungeons.

- 3 instanced PVP maps.

 

So this is it for launch?  3 tiny hubs, 3 public areas/zones ONLY and a bunch of instanced dungeons, and 3 PVP maps ??

Please tell me this is not true?!

 

[mod note - the NDA is lifted for content in the weekend beta ONLY. Any other details are under NDA and will be removed.]

  Bjelar

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5/12/12 6:51:34 AM#2

This is not true. Happy now? :)

 

Closed beta is still very much under NDA. The first weekend beta shows a very limited selection of the game.

  Classicstar

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5/12/12 6:52:58 AM#3

Its beta right so prolly change when game launches next month.

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  fascism

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5/12/12 6:53:02 AM#4

cant say much because of the NDA but you are wrong.

  JeroKane

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OP  5/12/12 6:54:35 AM#5
Originally posted by Bjelar

This is not true. Happy now? :)

 

Closed beta is still very much under NDA. The first weekend beta shows a very limited selection of the game.

 

The Achievement system is fully available and only shows exactly that what I described. And the official website also pretty much reflects this.

It would mean that even Age of Conan dwarfs this game completely with available OPEN explorable zones at launch. :-(

  fascism

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5/12/12 6:56:38 AM#6
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Bjelar

This is not true. Happy now? :)

 

Closed beta is still very much under NDA. The first weekend beta shows a very limited selection of the game.

 

The Achievement system is fully available and only shows exactly that what I subscribed.

It would mean that even Age of Conan dwarfs this game completely with available OPEN explorable zones at launch. :-(

some of have seen almost the entire game, why argue?

  ShakyMo

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5/12/12 6:59:18 AM#7
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"
  ShakyMo

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5/12/12 7:00:57 AM#8
Ps not breaking nda, you can work this out from the map and the help in the open beta UI.
  Chrome1980

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5/12/12 7:01:27 AM#9
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Bjelar

This is not true. Happy now? :)

 

Closed beta is still very much under NDA. The first weekend beta shows a very limited selection of the game.

 

The Achievement system is fully available and only shows exactly that what I described. And the official website also pretty much reflects this.

It would mean that even Age of Conan dwarfs this game completely with available OPEN explorable zones at launch. :-(

You are wrong..read what shakyMO said, i don't want to repeat the same thing.

  Bjelar

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5/12/12 7:09:45 AM#10

To be fair, OP's worries used to be my gratest worries too. I see where he's coming from.

 

TSW seems to be a very very differnt kind of game from AoC and other "clones". It playes differently. You will not like TSW if you try to play it like you are used to. Loads of players will not understand. It's common to ask for something differnt, but when you get it say "but this isn't how it's SUPPOSED to work!"

 

If you rush to the "endgame" in TSW, not only will is seem like a too short journey, you will end up with a terrible, weak and not very fun char to play with. You will find the game almost impossibly difficult. The game is by design made for developing your char broadly, trying out different things, explore zones. The natral flow of the game will then see to it that you character become ready for endgame when he/she is ready for the endgame.

 

Lots of players will quit long before this dawns on them, I'm afraid. They will try to play TSW like any other MMO, and end up with a one dimensional boring charachter. They will then quit. Sad.

  pdx2012

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5/12/12 7:13:44 AM#11

This game is huge and packed with content and quests -  the OPs worries are unfounded :)

  prizm1234

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5/12/12 9:07:46 AM#12
Originally posted by Bjelar

This is not true. Happy now? :)

 

Closed beta is still very much under NDA. The first weekend beta shows a very limited selection of the game.

re iterating this, the weekend beta has a ton of stuff not accessable

  Exitar

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Joined: 4/14/08
Posts: 16

5/12/12 9:51:04 AM#13
Originally posted by ShakyMo
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"

 

With all the possible interesting zones on Earth and the myth associated, there are really only 3?

No european capitals (Paris, Rome) or big US towns (NY, LA), no african jungle, no antartica, no orient (China/Japan), no South America?

Ok, New England, Egypt and Transylvania can be very large, but must I expect to spend 1/3 of the game in zones that look like Kingsmouth?

  bcbully

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5/12/12 9:56:16 AM#14

It's pretty damn huge OP much bigger than swtor, and doesn't feel disjointed.

  Mexorilla

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5/12/12 9:59:02 AM#15

Did you even explore London?  the fight club is the size of Valley of Strength.

  kishe

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5/12/12 10:05:28 AM#16
Originally posted by Exitar
Originally posted by ShakyMo
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"

 

With all the possible interesting zones on Earth and the myth associated, there are really only 3?

No european capitals (Paris, Rome) or big US towns (NY, LA), no african jungle, no antartica, no orient (China/Japan), no South America?

Ok, New England, Egypt and Transylvania can be very large, but must I expect to spend 1/3 of the game in zones that look like Kingsmouth?

Yeah! Damn them for not creating exact replica of whole world!

  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

5/12/12 10:06:07 AM#17


Originally posted by Bjelar
To be fair, OP's worries used to be my gratest worries too. I see where he's coming from.
 
TSW seems to be a very very differnt kind of game from AoC and other "clones". It playes differently. You will not like TSW if you try to play it like you are used to. Loads of players will not understand. It's common to ask for something differnt, but when you get it say "but this isn't how it's SUPPOSED to work!"
 
If you rush to the "endgame" in TSW, not only will is seem like a too short journey, you will end up with a terrible, weak and not very fun char to play with. You will find the game almost impossibly difficult. The game is by design made for developing your char broadly, trying out different things, explore zones. The natral flow of the game will then see to it that you character become ready for endgame when he/she is ready for the endgame.
 
Lots of players will quit long before this dawns on them, I'm afraid. They will try to play TSW like any other MMO, and end up with a one dimensional boring charachter. They will then quit. Sad.

Seriously? The way it seems 'different' to me, is a lot like how TOR is different. It's extremely story-centric, to the point of quests being the whole game. You don't 'grind' quests, because you're supposed to be enjoying the story, not trying to get through them.


Problem is, so much story emphasis is a niche that won't appeal to a lot of players. We skip through cut-scenes and try to grind through quests, because it's not what we're primarily enjoy in an MMO. Unless the gameplay is a lot different outside what the beta weekend shows, TSW just isn't for players like that. Not because we're doing it wrong, so much as it just not being what we want in a game.


I just wish they'd advertised the game more accurately, so that I'd have known this a long time ago, instead of just finding out now.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  just1opinion

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5/12/12 10:10:33 AM#18
Originally posted by Exitar
Originally posted by ShakyMo
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"

 

With all the possible interesting zones on Earth and the myth associated, there are really only 3?

No european capitals (Paris, Rome) or big US towns (NY, LA), no african jungle, no antartica, no orient (China/Japan), no South America?

Ok, New England, Egypt and Transylvania can be very large, but must I expect to spend 1/3 of the game in zones that look like Kingsmouth?

 

I was under the impression that Paris, NY,  Seoul, Korea....and assorted other big cities.....were to be in game?  WTF?  So all that is there is Kingsmouth, New England (more Kingsmouth-looking areas), London, and Transylvania??????

 

TELL ME that this is wrong, please.

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  Exitar

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Posts: 16

5/12/12 10:11:44 AM#19
Originally posted by kishe
Originally posted by Exitar
Originally posted by ShakyMo
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"

 

With all the possible interesting zones on Earth and the myth associated, there are really only 3?

No european capitals (Paris, Rome) or big US towns (NY, LA), no african jungle, no antartica, no orient (China/Japan), no South America?

Ok, New England, Egypt and Transylvania can be very large, but must I expect to spend 1/3 of the game in zones that look like Kingsmouth?

Yeah! Damn them for not creating exact replica of whole world!

 

So if a game named "the Secret World" is composed of only 3 zone is fine for you. 2 would be fine? only 1?

  Aerowyn

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5/12/12 10:13:58 AM#20
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Exitar
Originally posted by ShakyMo
The kingsmouth map we have is 1/3 of the new England area, there are another 2 playfields the same size in new England.

Egypt has 2

Transylvania has 3
So there's 8 times the size of kingsmouth for outdoor playfields not 3 times.
+ your 3 cities, the fulang persistent pvp zone, and all the society ranking missions that take you to various "mini zones"

 

With all the possible interesting zones on Earth and the myth associated, there are really only 3?

No european capitals (Paris, Rome) or big US towns (NY, LA), no african jungle, no antartica, no orient (China/Japan), no South America?

Ok, New England, Egypt and Transylvania can be very large, but must I expect to spend 1/3 of the game in zones that look like Kingsmouth?

 

I was under the impression that Paris, NY,  Seoul, Korea....and assorted other big cities.....were to be in game?  WTF?  So all that is there is Kingsmouth, New England (more Kingsmouth-looking areas), London, and Transylvania??????

 

TELL ME that this is wrong, please.

at release there will be 3 factions each in a major city so yes you'll get NY and Seoul

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