Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by jtcgs

lots of games had that, the Myst series. I actually cant remember if the Kings Quests games had a journal/ledger or not...hmm. I do know of another long series of games that had it but I cant name it here cause of the...umm...content it had but let me just say it had to do with spells and the name made it sound like it was taking place in a class.

There is no journal or ledger here. It's not self contained. It's out in the world. 

 

Unless you google TSW "____" quest. The answer will not just pop up. If you want to just grab the answer sure, after the game has been out for awhile you'll be able to do that. 

Unless you head to the big orange circle on the map.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by jtcgs

lots of games had that, the Myst series. I actually cant remember if the Kings Quests games had a journal/ledger or not...hmm. I do know of another long series of games that had it but I cant name it here cause of the...umm...content it had but let me just say it had to do with spells and the name made it sound like it was taking place in a class.

There is no journal or ledger here. It's not self contained. It's out in the world. 

 

Unless you google TSW "____" quest. The answer will not just pop up. If you want to just grab the answer sure, after the game has been out for awhile you'll be able to do that. 

Unless you head to the big orange circle on the map.

You don't get it do you? There is no orange circle lol Not for this type stuff.  

Yeah I know, it sounds crazy but you have to think complete it.

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by jtcgs

lots of games had that, the Myst series. I actually cant remember if the Kings Quests games had a journal/ledger or not...hmm. I do know of another long series of games that had it but I cant name it here cause of the...umm...content it had but let me just say it had to do with spells and the name made it sound like it was taking place in a class.

There is no journal or ledger here. It's not self contained. It's out in the world. 

 

Unless you google TSW "____" quest. The answer will not just pop up. If you want to just grab the answer sure, after the game has been out for awhile you'll be able to do that. 

Unless you head to the big orange circle on the map.

You don't get it do you? There is no orange circle lol Not for this type stuff.  

Yeah I know, it sounds crazy but you have to think complete it.

I don't know, man. Every single quest I have done so far had an orange circle telling me where to go.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by jtcgs

lots of games had that, the Myst series. I actually cant remember if the Kings Quests games had a journal/ledger or not...hmm. I do know of another long series of games that had it but I cant name it here cause of the...umm...content it had but let me just say it had to do with spells and the name made it sound like it was taking place in a class.

There is no journal or ledger here. It's not self contained. It's out in the world. 

 

Unless you google TSW "____" quest. The answer will not just pop up. If you want to just grab the answer sure, after the game has been out for awhile you'll be able to do that. 

Unless you head to the big orange circle on the map.

You don't get it do you? There is no orange circle lol Not for this type stuff.  

Yeah I know, it sounds crazy but you have to think complete it.

I don't know, man. Every single quest I have done so far had an orange circle telling me where to go.

You are a classic. 

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

Actually almost all the investigation quests are "heres a clue find the location yourself"  Loving the game so far.

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by heartless

There was a game I played back in the early 2000s where the game would actually call you or email you with puzzles and missions and such and then you had to visit different websites and gather clues... It was cancelled a few months later and I can't, for the life of me, remember the name.

Anyway, my point is that if the OP haven't done things like that, he(or she) failed at gaming.

I wouldn't say failed at gaming, but definitely missed out on a lot of great games.

 

@OP, here's a list of games you might like:

- almost anything by Infocom, specifically Zork

- Myst

- Red Guard and the Fallout series

- Wizardry's 6-8

- Bard's tale 2

Most of them are quite old, as somewhere in the 90's the affinity for puzzles started to wane and the open-ended/sandbox style of RPG started to become more popular.

I played all of those, except Myst. Now tell me which one gave you an in game clue that you searched the real world for the answer to. I'm not talking about a self contained journal that you looked up.

If you're talking specifically about mixed reality or mixed media content, the Martian Buddy arc in the FPS I mentioned earlier, Doom 3, would be a great example. Several titles in the Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego franchise required external sources, namely an almanac or map, to solve certain puzzles or find clues. Those have been around forever.

If we're talking strictly MMOs, here's the webpage from one EVE Online recently did: http://ihavereturned.com/   The site was CONCORD's (in-game "good guys") repository of intecepted transmissions from Sansha Nation (in-game "bad guys").Players deciphered messages in the various transmissions to find out what the invading Sansha forces were planning their next strike. 

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

You make the child in me laugh with you and the adult in me sigh and shake his head at you.  I believe the main focus of the post here is that the game has all the usual quests but in addition to them, gives you others that focus on trying to use your brain abit more rather than head to the X and click a button.  Play more than a day or weekend , read the content, dont blow thru it (ya know, like in FPS games or in games like WoW )  and then talk. 

Originally posted by Syllendale

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

You make the child in me laugh with you and the adult in me sigh and shake his head at you.  I believe the main focus of the post here is that the game has all the usual quests but in addition to them, gives you others that focus on trying to use your brain abit more rather than head to the X and click a button.  Play more than a day or weekend , read the content, dont blow thru it (ya know, like in FPS games or in games like WoW )  and then talk. 

The point is that the majority of the quests are the same old lame quests we've been doing for years. The few investigation quests are fun but they don't exactly make the lame quests any better.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by Syllendale

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

You make the child in me laugh with you and the adult in me sigh and shake his head at you.  I believe the main focus of the post here is that the game has all the usual quests but in addition to them, gives you others that focus on trying to use your brain abit more rather than head to the X and click a button.  Play more than a day or weekend , read the content, dont blow thru it (ya know, like in FPS games or in games like WoW )  and then talk. 

The point is that the majority of the quests are the same old lame quests we've been doing for years. The few investigation quests are fun but they don't exactly make the lame quests any better.

Just stop man. It's painfully obvious you haven't did one. If you haven't found any then you haven't played much. 

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by Syllendale

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

You make the child in me laugh with you and the adult in me sigh and shake his head at you.  I believe the main focus of the post here is that the game has all the usual quests but in addition to them, gives you others that focus on trying to use your brain abit more rather than head to the X and click a button.  Play more than a day or weekend , read the content, dont blow thru it (ya know, like in FPS games or in games like WoW )  and then talk. 

The point is that the majority of the quests are the same old lame quests we've been doing for years. The few investigation quests are fun but they don't exactly make the lame quests any better.

Hate is strong in this one. Actually I think you are just bashing because there are verey different quet types in an MMO. But then again why should I even bother convincing someone who is crusading against this game. 

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by Syllendale

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by TheSedated

Heartless, I suggest you go to the church in Kingsmouth and getthe quest "Kingsmouth code".

So just because 1 quest needs you to google something all of a sudden this is not a "kill x" game? All I've been doing in this game so far is clicking on stuff pointed out by the circles on the map. Now I have to google one and all of a sudden it's a game changer? Stop it.

Your doing it wrong... Honestly you are.

The game tells me "Here are some mines. Kill zombies with them." and draws a nice red/orange circle on my map and I'm doing it wrong? WTF am I doing wrong? Should I not go to the red/orange circle? I mean, I went there, kill the zombies with the mines and finished the quest, did I do it wrong? Maybe I should've googled how to properly blow up zombies with mines?

You make the child in me laugh with you and the adult in me sigh and shake his head at you.  I believe the main focus of the post here is that the game has all the usual quests but in addition to them, gives you others that focus on trying to use your brain abit more rather than head to the X and click a button.  Play more than a day or weekend , read the content, dont blow thru it (ya know, like in FPS games or in games like WoW )  and then talk. 

The point is that the majority of the quests are the same old lame quests we've been doing for years. The few investigation quests are fun but they don't exactly make the lame quests any better.

Just stop man. It's painfully obvious you haven't did one. If you haven't found any then you haven't played much. 

You mean that one that starts with you following the sewers? I don't want to say anything else as I don't want to spoil anything for anyone but there is also an artist involved.

Some of the quests might be "WoW-Like", but the quest limit means that I pay attention to the story, instead of grabbing 15 quests and just caring about the reward. The pacing is leaps and bounds better than WoW. When I got to the computer quest that required a password, that secured my pre-order. GOOD JOB FUNCOM!

I think it's great that TSW is challenging the conventional questing system at times. I really hope this game does well. As cost is a factor, I doubt that I will be playing but maybe later on things might be different.

Originally posted by bcbully

 

I just got done with a quest where I need a password for a computer. I found a clue in a picture, took the hint from the computer. Then looked it up on the in game browser. about 4 or 5 links down I found something, put it in and it was the answer. the computer opened. This is just the starting area mind you...

 

This is not a kill x grab y game. There are those quest though. 40 hours in, and when I see one of those quest I think "good I can rest my brain." 

You're doing the "Main Story" line mission stuff. That's similar to the "Character Storyline" in SWTOR. However, the other 80% of TSW is "go here, kill/collect/do this, return". 

TSW is NO DIFFERENT than SWTOR, however the story, setting, and artstyle is LEAGUES better than SWTOR. If you're not big into an MMO being 90% story and hella-linear I'd suggest avoiding TSW :(.

My friends dropped the game after playing for 10hrs this weekend after they had the "realization" that it was SWTOR with a more "gritty" ArtStyle =/.

Also, I will agree that the Doctor's password was hilariously tastey. I was like "I know that song... and composer.." and type it in and BAM O_O!

Faded, at the basic level don't you think that questing is always the same? You really can't get around it. How it differs is the presentation and the context they are in with the game world. So far I feel that TSW has done that really well, at least better than SWTOR was in my opinion. But I haven't played a whole lot of TSW so I can't comment past about 5 hours of gameplay.

Funcom; When you can't create engaging content for your game, use the internet.

Bravo Funcom.

/facedesk