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  OtheK

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OP  5/11/12 6:55:45 AM#1

people likes to talk about cheap replicas, empty content packs or sequels of sloppy games excitedly. but why a far cry gamer have an interest in a really different and particular mmo like TSW. I can't understand why. any idea?

  Loktofeit

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5/11/12 6:57:24 AM#2
Originally posted by OozanA

people likes to talk about cheap replicas, empty content packs or sequels of sloppy games excitedly. but why a far cry gamer have an interest in a really different and particular mmo l'ke TSW. I can't understand why. any idea?

In Far Cry, you play as Jack Carver, a guy who's been hired to sail a mysterious woman around the Pacific. However, Jack's ship suddenly comes under attack. After washing ashore on a tropical island, sans the mysterious woman, Carver must investigate his surroundings so that he can find her and eventually rescue her from an army of heavily armed mercenaries.

  Aerowyn

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5/11/12 7:00:49 AM#3

probably mostly due to the developer.. i don't really care either way if game is fun then I could care less who makes it or publishes it. But most common thing I have seen is "it's funcom no way I'm playing that one". On top of that NDA has been in effect way longer than most MMOs. uusally in most MMOs NDA is lifted several months before release and this one is just a month from release.

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  blackthornn

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5/11/12 7:12:13 AM#4

partly being from FC, I honestly think partly for being a thought intensive game scaring off alot of the trolls, and partly FC has dropped some cash on advertising but it's nowhere near the paid ad monstrosity that AoC, Darkfall, Aion, SWToR, etc where.

 

Without the advertising budget devoted to TSW, sites like this one aren't as likely to have the staff be told to focus as much attention on the game pre-release, adding to the mass hype.

 

Personally I'm kinda glad this game is kind of coasting under the radar compared to most of the recent big launches.  Communities are crap in MMO's nowadays and I'd like to see this one get off the ground before the griefer/troll/bitchfit trains pull into the station.

 

Day 1 of early access to SWToR, 1 hr into the game and it was already flooded with ppl bitching and moaning about how it's "sooooo WoW"  "pathetic graphics", etc.  I'd like a week or so without that shit this time around.

  Lucioon

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5/11/12 8:45:51 AM#5
Originally posted by blackthornn

partly being from FC, I honestly think partly for being a thought intensive game scaring off alot of the trolls, and partly FC has dropped some cash on advertising but it's nowhere near the paid ad monstrosity that AoC, Darkfall, Aion, SWToR, etc where.

 

Without the advertising budget devoted to TSW, sites like this one aren't as likely to have the staff be told to focus as much attention on the game pre-release, adding to the mass hype.

 

Personally I'm kinda glad this game is kind of coasting under the radar compared to most of the recent big launches.  Communities are crap in MMO's nowadays and I'd like to see this one get off the ground before the griefer/troll/bitchfit trains pull into the station.

 

Day 1 of early access to SWToR, 1 hr into the game and it was already flooded with ppl bitching and moaning about how it's "sooooo WoW"  "pathetic graphics", etc.  I'd like a week or so without that shit this time around.

The main reason why so many in SWTOR was bitchin and moaning is because they weren't given the privilege of getting into the game prior to its release. There weren't even any Gameplay Videos by fans available on youtube. So everyone that went into the game only had Hype that it will be like TOR SP , and made by Bioware.

TSW don't have as high an Hype as other games, because they also don't have the amount of ingame footage as other games. TERA is already out in Korea, if you want to know how the game plays, there are tons of videos online, everything from level  1 to 60 is available to view, even all the BAM, and various PVP footages.

Even GW2 has hours upon hours of press footages, and BWE footages. Althought its only from  1 to 30 almost every aspects of the game mechanics is available to view and experience.

Gamers are just very cautious when there is not as much information available for everyone to see. Thats why there isn't that much hype, most are just waiting for the Beta footages. And more information released after the NDA is lifted.

IF its what everyone wants, it will be popular, if not, most will be thinking that they dodged a bullet.

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  jdnewell

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5/11/12 9:05:19 AM#6

I honestly hope this game does not attract the masses. I would be perfectly content with a niche crowd who enjoyed this type of game rather than every retard with a computer on it making chuck norris jokes in general.

And from what I have seen this is pretty much whats going to happen. I think alot of older games who are burnt out on the same rehashed fanatasy MMO's they have been playing for a decade will enjoy this alot. Others not so much.

  Lucioon

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5/11/12 9:11:33 AM#7
Originally posted by jdnewell

I honestly hope this game does not attract the masses. I would be perfectly content with a niche crowd who enjoyed this type of game rather than every retard with a computer on it making chuck norris jokes in general.

And from what I have seen this is pretty much whats going to happen. I think alot of older games who are burnt out on the same rehashed fanatasy MMO's they have been playing for a decade will enjoy this alot. Others not so much.

You are speaking from an Gamer's perspective and I respect that, yet from a business perspective, they have to drawn in more than an Niche crowd. TSW is known by many that follows other games, the reason why there is not much posts is because there is just not that much information available. And those in Closed Beta can not divulge any information to the masses. Therefore creating a vacumn effect on the HYPE.

Everyone knows that the Cinematic Trailers will not play out in actual Gameplay, and most videos available is with placeholders. Only the Beta players knows whats what, and they are stuck. Wait till next week once the Open Beta is available for all to play, then you will either see a jump in HYPE or a dive in HYPE.

Currently the only thing that is different is the Skill Wheels, and Setting. Other than that most is unknown to the players.

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  AZHokie54

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5/11/12 9:13:01 AM#8

One word, FUNCOM.

/thread.

 

  Unlight

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5/11/12 9:16:03 AM#9
Originally posted by Lucioon
Originally posted by blackthornn

partly being from FC, I honestly think partly for being a thought intensive game scaring off alot of the trolls, and partly FC has dropped some cash on advertising but it's nowhere near the paid ad monstrosity that AoC, Darkfall, Aion, SWToR, etc where.

 

Without the advertising budget devoted to TSW, sites like this one aren't as likely to have the staff be told to focus as much attention on the game pre-release, adding to the mass hype.

 

Personally I'm kinda glad this game is kind of coasting under the radar compared to most of the recent big launches.  Communities are crap in MMO's nowadays and I'd like to see this one get off the ground before the griefer/troll/bitchfit trains pull into the station.

 

Day 1 of early access to SWToR, 1 hr into the game and it was already flooded with ppl bitching and moaning about how it's "sooooo WoW"  "pathetic graphics", etc.  I'd like a week or so without that shit this time around.

The main reason why so many in SWTOR was bitchin and moaning is because they weren't given the privilege of getting into the game prior to its release. There weren't even any Gameplay Videos by fans available on youtube. So everyone that went into the game only had Hype that it will be like TOR SP , and made by Bioware.

TSW don't have as high an Hype as other games, because they also don't have the amount of ingame footage as other games. TERA is already out in Korea, if you want to know how the game plays, there are tons of videos online, everything from level  1 to 60 is available to view, even all the BAM, and various PVP footages.

Even GW2 has hours upon hours of press footages, and BWE footages. Althought its only from  1 to 30 almost every aspects of the game mechanics is available to view and experience.

Gamers are just very cautious when there is not as much information available for everyone to see. Thats why there isn't that much hype, most are just waiting for the Beta footages. And more information released after the NDA is lifted.

IF its what everyone wants, it will be popular, if not, most will be thinking that they dodged a bullet.

There was plenty enough gameplay footage out there prior to SWTOR's release for some of us to decide to give it a pass.  The whiners in the game just didn't do their homework.  The facts were readily available though.

As for TSW, enjoy the relative obscurity that the lack of insane hype brings you.  The smaller target you are, the less likely asshat trollscum will come sniffing around.  You don't want the aggravation that astronomical hype brings you.  If the game is good, it will get around and it will grow.  Besides, all the hype in the world means nothing five minutes after launch.

  Baikal

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5/11/12 9:17:55 AM#10


Originally posted by Lucioon

The main reason why so many in SWTOR was bitchin and moaning is because they weren't given the privilege of getting into the game prior to its release. There weren't even any Gameplay Videos by fans available on youtube. So everyone that went into the game only had Hype that it will be like TOR SP , and made by Bioware.



I'll call shens on that.

Bioware ran Beta weekends about bi-weekly for nearly 2 months. Pretty much everyone who had signed up for beta testing was invited.

I'm not sure how you figure people werent allowed in.

  Nethriil

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5/11/12 9:18:56 AM#11

i think the marketing starts now for tsw after this weekend. just reading and watching the videos on this site today just makes me want to play this game badly. looks epic. i want to be a witchhunter!!!!!!

  kishe

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5/11/12 9:19:28 AM#12
Originally posted by OozanA

people likes to talk about cheap replicas, empty content packs or sequels of sloppy games excitedly. but why a far cry gamer have an interest in a really different and particular mmo like TSW. I can't understand why. any idea?

 

People dont trust Funcom all that much. "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me, fool me thrice..."

 

 

  Method01

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5/11/12 9:20:03 AM#13

Short answer, but the truth! The game is made by Funcom. That's it.

You might think im trolling, but i bet most of the ppl that don't give this game any thoughts are because of Funcom.  

  kishe

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5/11/12 9:20:18 AM#14
Originally posted by Nethriil

i think the marketing starts now for tsw after this weekend. just reading and watching the videos on this site today just makes me want to play this game badly. looks epic. i want to be a witchhunter!!!!!!

<---Diablo3 is that way 

  Onigod

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5/11/12 9:21:06 AM#15

I think its even better to not draw to much attention before release.

 

Only attention people would give is negative (people do this for everything even if something is just perfect thats how the brain seems to work)

 

make a good game and after release the positive publicity will follow at great speed.

 

 

 

  Siug

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5/11/12 9:22:35 AM#16
Originally posted by OozanA

people likes to talk about cheap replicas, empty content packs or sequels of sloppy games excitedly. but why a far cry gamer have an interest in a really different and particular mmo like TSW. I can't understand why. any idea?

Maybe because FC did not to advertise this game as the next WoW killer and such. Actually less hype is a good thing because overhyping always leads to coming down from hights, followed by forum raging. If TSW turns out to be a good or very good MMO, people find it anyway. Good publicity is the best publicity.

Remember what happened to SWTOR which was hyped beyond stratosphere? It even doesn't matter anymore how much BW improves the game, damage has been done.

  Nethriil

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5/11/12 9:22:47 AM#17
Originally posted by kishe
Originally posted by Nethriil

i think the marketing starts now for tsw after this weekend. just reading and watching the videos on this site today just makes me want to play this game badly. looks epic. i want to be a witchhunter!!!!!!

<---Diablo3 is that way 

hehe witchhunter in tsw looks a lot more epic than in diablo 3

  Baikal

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5/11/12 9:24:15 AM#18

Being honest, Funcom's rep is probably a reason for muted excitement among the existing MMO playing community, and I havent seen EA (the publisher, not the developer) taking a lot of ad's out in non-MMO oriented websites.

Personally, I love a lot of the concepts, but I didnt follow the game too closer post announcement because I had been thru AO beta and launch and AoC beta and launch, and I felt no reason to get excited or interest over things that were likely to change fairly significantly pre-release. Now though, 5 weeks out, I'm interested in seeing what the game is, but it's well past concept and idea time.

I'm not going to re-write it all but I did a blog on it the other day. Short version is having played some other Funcom games, I'm trying to approach this with reasonable expectations, and see if I like it.

To the topic, if this weekend is a hit, and the concepts they have talked about work for people, you'll see a pretty strong word of mouth campaign, and that's the best advertising for a game in the genre anyhow. Right now they have to show something, their rep natually has people apprehensive over claims. "Show us, dont tell us," is the mantra.

  Darth_Osor

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5/11/12 9:30:12 AM#19

Funcom.  That's reason enough for many people.

MMOs set in a fantasy realm are still the big draws, unless you have a major IP like Star Wars.

  Kyleran

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5/11/12 9:31:32 AM#20

Agree with the others, the reasons I think there hasn't been much buzz include:

1) Made by Fail...er Funcom, folks recall their last two launches were not very successful, regardless how good the titles finally ended up.

2) I think Funcom realizes they overhyped AOC unrealistically and took a lower key approach this time around.

3)  Its not a fantasy MMO, which is actually a mark against it in some folks eyes, they only like those kinds of world. In fact, TSW is really different from most other MMO's in this regard and it will reduce interest (at least at first)

4) Hey, it's a "Secret" World after all, right?

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