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  Loktofeit

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5/10/12 12:41:59 PM#41
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Xasapis

It's an mmoRPG. Not an FPS. Gear should always matter.

Best mmoRPG and best original PvP MMO gear didn't mean anything  - UO.

Your statement is false.

Should have added a "to me" at the end there, lots of us with a very different perspective.

The same could apply to you, since your claim about UO is a personal opinion.  

He said your statement was false, which is correct. He said gear didn't mean anything in UO, which was an RPG, which is correct. He did not say that gear should never matter, just pointed out that it does not need to.

He wasn't responding to me, he was responding to Xasapis.  Also...read the red.   Opinion.  I was merely pointing out he could have used a "to me" at the end of his post as well.

Ah, wrong author. Point still stands. Gear is one way to reach the stated end, not the only way.

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  RebelScum99

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5/10/12 12:44:36 PM#42
Originally posted by teakbois

When its all said and done in some ways TERA is just like WoW

Gear matters, but not as much as people pretend it does.  In WoW, if an average player faced an elite PvPer, even a huge resiliance differential wouldnt matter, the elite was still going to win.

The people acting like TERA takes more skill than other MMOs are mostly full of it, its just a different skillset.  It will effect the low end (keyboard turners especially) but those players were easy targets in other games anyway.   The key skill in most PvP games is knowing your enemy, and its still the key skill here.  

Does it rely on RNG for things like dodging and blocking?  No?  Does it rely on RNG for accuracy?  No?  Then I'm not sure how you can say that people who claim it takes more skill than other MMOs are "full of it."  

It does, in fact, take more skill.  You're just playing devil's advocate because you've been trashing this game from day one, and are now spinning yourself in circles to avoid admitting a very plain and easy-to-grasp concept:  TERA does require more skill than other MMOs of its kind.  When you take out the RNG factor of MMO staples like dodge, block, and accuracy, this should go without saying.  

Again, no one is saying this game is all about skill.  But it certainly requires more than most games.  Even an illogical hater should be able to acknowledge this.

  RebelScum99

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5/10/12 12:45:07 PM#43
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Xasapis

It's an mmoRPG. Not an FPS. Gear should always matter.

Best mmoRPG and best original PvP MMO gear didn't mean anything  - UO.

Your statement is false.

Should have added a "to me" at the end there, lots of us with a very different perspective.

The same could apply to you, since your claim about UO is a personal opinion.  

He said your statement was false, which is correct. He said gear didn't mean anything in UO, which was an RPG, which is correct. He did not say that gear should never matter, just pointed out that it does not need to.

He wasn't responding to me, he was responding to Xasapis.  Also...read the red.   Opinion.  I was merely pointing out he could have used a "to me" at the end of his post as well.

Ah, wrong author. Point still stands. Gear is one way to reach the stated end, not the only way.

Oh, I agree with that.  

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

5/10/12 12:46:21 PM#44
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Xasapis

It's an mmoRPG. Not an FPS. Gear should always matter.

Best mmoRPG and best original PvP MMO gear didn't mean anything  - UO.

Your statement is false.

Should have added a "to me" at the end there, lots of us with a very different perspective.

The same could apply to you, since your claim about UO is a personal opinion.  

I thought the "lots of us with a very different perspective" did that for me nicely, but I guess next time I'll use a crayon and make it very big and bright and easy to understand ;)

Nice back-track.  Still doesn't change the fact that you called out someone for posting an opinion as fact, and then in the very next sentence did the same exact thing.  Your "lots of us with a very different perspective" was in reference to his opinion, not yours.  Unless you are just really bad at context. 

I'm sorry, I have to leave this thread - I just facepalmed myself so hard I think I lost an eye.

RELAX!

Even in a very gear-heavy MMO like WoW, even the best gear won't save you from being a bad PvP'er against someone who is much, much better, and since TERA is even more skill based PvP than WoW I imagine the ratio is more 60/40 skill/gear in TERA versus WoW's 50/50.

I prefer my games 100/0 skill/gear in PvP, but to each their own.

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  Raven

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5/10/12 1:32:58 PM#45
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Xasapis

It's an mmoRPG. Not an FPS. Gear should always matter.

Best mmoRPG and best original PvP MMO gear didn't mean anything  - UO.

Your statement is false.

Should have added a "to me" at the end there, lots of us with a very different perspective.

The same could apply to you, since your claim about UO is a personal opinion.  

I thought the "lots of us with a very different perspective" did that for me nicely, but I guess next time I'll use a crayon and make it very big and bright and easy to understand ;)

Nice back-track.  Still doesn't change the fact that you called out someone for posting an opinion as fact, and then in the very next sentence did the same exact thing.  Your "lots of us with a very different perspective" was in reference to his opinion, not yours.  Unless you are just really bad at context. 

I'm sorry, I have to leave this thread - I just facepalmed myself so hard I think I lost an eye.

RELAX!

Even in a very gear-heavy MMO like WoW, even the best gear won't save you from being a bad PvP'er against someone who is much, much better, and since TERA is even more skill based PvP than WoW I imagine the ratio is more 60/40 skill/gear in TERA versus WoW's 50/50.

I prefer my games 100/0 skill/gear in PvP, but to each their own.

Gear in theme park games equates to the same as skill points in UO, you get gear to get more stats the same way in UO you got skill points from performing an action ( different way I know but the same end add +attributes ). If you had 10 archery and went against someone with 100 archery skill had very little to do with it, 10 archery will get owned pretty quickly ( when you are comparing having these 2 skills ofc in reality its the combination of a whole range of higher skills that will give you this advantage, much like gear has different stats that add up ). 

Gear in games like WoW where there is "Tab Targetting" is all encompassing, all your avoidance and attack damage are tied to the same stat pool, so someone starting fresh pvp at 85 in WoW will be at a massive disadvantage regardless of how skilled he is, someone with 1000 resilience and lots of Dodge Rating is gonna walk up to you in your 100 resilience gear, lock a fireball, and shoot you for half your health pool, because the server rolled the dice and there is a very high chance it will always roll in his favour.

With TERA however, dodge and attacks are manual, the server isnt rolling the dice based on some gear stat, you will still do less damage to him than he does to you, since well, he has spent the time playing the game and making his gear better ( see first paragraph for Skill Points->Gear correlation ), but you are still fully in control of your character avoidance and attacks, and that will determine if you will win or not, your opponent still has to aim his spells and has to avoid your damage so if you outskill him at doing damage and avoiding damage then you will win regardless of gear.

Level is pretty irrelevant dont even know why people bring it up, the game is designed for max level play when it comes to PVP and PVE, its about leveling and learning the game and your class so you can play at maximum level to the full extent, there is a reason you dont get all your skills at level 1.

 

To end this up I need to say that TERA doesnt require more skill than EVE when I have to build spreadsheets and do some heavy math to optimize my ship, unless you are talking specifically of hand eye coordination or something, and this goes to any MMO really. TERA provides you with a different set of skills, if I am really good at theory crafting but really bad at quick reaction and twitch combat, I am gonna suck pretty hard in TERA.

  teakbois

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5/10/12 2:31:50 PM#46
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by teakbois

When its all said and done in some ways TERA is just like WoW

Gear matters, but not as much as people pretend it does.  In WoW, if an average player faced an elite PvPer, even a huge resiliance differential wouldnt matter, the elite was still going to win.

The people acting like TERA takes more skill than other MMOs are mostly full of it, its just a different skillset.  It will effect the low end (keyboard turners especially) but those players were easy targets in other games anyway.   The key skill in most PvP games is knowing your enemy, and its still the key skill here.  

Does it rely on RNG for things like dodging and blocking?  No?  Does it rely on RNG for accuracy?  No?  Then I'm not sure how you can say that people who claim it takes more skill than other MMOs are "full of it."  

It does, in fact, take more skill.  You're just playing devil's advocate because you've been trashing this game from day one, and are now spinning yourself in circles to avoid admitting a very plain and easy-to-grasp concept:  TERA does require more skill than other MMOs of its kind.  When you take out the RNG factor of MMO staples like dodge, block, and accuracy, this should go without saying.  

Again, no one is saying this game is all about skill.  But it certainly requires more than most games.  Even an illogical hater should be able to acknowledge this.

People are making it seem like all this is some complex, diffcult thing though.  its a constant game of action/reaction, same as WoW, same as most other games.  Dodging, blocking, and aiming really arent difficult things.   Do you need to be more attentive than most other games?  Yes, I can buy that.  Do you need to possess more skill?  Not really.  The top 10% of TERA PvPers will be no more skillful than the top 10% of WoW PvPers

  helthros

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5/10/12 4:12:01 PM#47

I'm curious why all the same GW2 fanboys love trolling every single TERA thread.

 

The game isn't that gear dependent as the trolls would have you believe. I've beat heavily enchanted guys with basic gear. It's skill/understanding of classes > gear.

 

You also forgot to mention if you're concerned about 1v1 or group fighting. Obviously, gear is less important in group fighting.

 

Also one thing people neglect to mention with regards to the lvl disaprity thing - This game was designed for PvP to take place ONLY at lvl 60. Koreans did not have PvP servers like we have here in the West. So while it may be a little funky if you're 27 fighting a 30, obviously it all clears up at max level.

  remyburke

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5/10/12 4:13:52 PM#48

As others have mentioned, levels matter way more than gear. Which, is my only real complaint with the game. In PvP, skill should be the deciding factor, not the fact that someone has 2 levels on you.

 

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  otacu

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5/10/12 4:17:24 PM#49
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yes. It's very heavily gear dependent.

 

  helthros

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5/10/12 4:24:27 PM#50
Originally posted by otacu
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yes. It's very heavily gear dependent.

 

 

What server are you on and what level are you? If you're on Jagged Coast, I would love to prove you wrong :)

  rexzshadow

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5/10/12 4:52:38 PM#51
Originally posted by teakbois

People are making it seem like all this is some complex, diffcult thing though.  its a constant game of action/reaction, same as WoW, same as most other games.  Dodging, blocking, and aiming really arent difficult things.   Do you need to be more attentive than most other games?  Yes, I can buy that.  Do you need to possess more skill?  Not really.  The top 10% of TERA PvPers will be no more skillful than the top 10% of WoW PvPers

Not even close, not only do you have to be able to be aware of your surrounding and manage your skills in Tera you also have to dodge/block and aim on top of that. Idk how you can make that statement, in WoW its only about manging your cooldowns, you movement doesn't matter and you don't aim. In Tera you have to add aiming and dodge/block and aiming on top of what is required in WoW so much more things to manage at once.

Also dodging/block and aiming at a moving thinking player is VERY hard.

  Wakygreek

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5/10/12 5:08:46 PM#52

From my experience in Tera which is up to level 37 on Dragonfall (PVE server) and my experience pvping through duels I can say that this is how they base it. It goes Level > Skill > Gear. So when your the same level, Skill is the deciding factor. Gear does help, however I have never seen anyone 1 shot, not even with a level of difference of 3-5. Now it is possible to be 1 - shot in the essence of combos, so if a Berzerker gets you on the ground and he has charge up glyphs for his big damage skills he might be able to clear you out in that time frame. However you then have to take into consideration Retaliate skills that every class gets and factor that in, so it is very difficult for anyone to kill you quickly in this game unless you stand still.

WoW PVP and Tera PVP are on completely different levels. WoW requires GEAR, Tera requires Skill moreso then GEAR. I have 6 capped out classes in WoW and I can safely tell you if you are a new 80 against an 80 with a full set of gear, you will 99.9% of the time die. In Tera as long as you understand your class well and what the other class can do, you have the ability to win on equal grounds.

 

*TL/DR : Tera is not as reliant on gear as other MMO's.

  kanedaA

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5/10/12 8:03:16 PM#53
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

for pve it is for pvp not so much tera is  all about skill not gear

unlike the rest of tab target overated games wich all are gear dependent

did lots of duels/pvp with greens/blues while gankers came to me with full golds +9-12 and still manage to kill them...

 

  Draemos

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5/11/12 4:19:25 AM#54
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yep, it is all things being equal.  There is a significant skill component though.  A  person who has the best gear in the game but can't dodge is trash.

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5/11/12 4:26:14 AM#55
Originally posted by kanedaA
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

for pve it is for pvp not so much tera is  all about skill not gear

unlike the rest of tab target overated games wich all are gear dependent

did lots of duels/pvp with greens/blues while gankers came to me with full golds +9-12 and still manage to kill them...

 

ahahah nope =D Bers with cool gear = oneshot without not .... + games where u could ench ur gear = gear dependent because guy with + 9 weopon have got lots of benefits .... and also all kor games = gear dependent 

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5/11/12 4:28:25 AM#56
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yep, it is all things being equal.  There is a significant skill component though.  A  person who has the best gear in the game but can't dodge is trash.

In some way yes but guys with cool gear could oneshot u and u with trash need to hit him like 6 times with more powerfull skill ..... and dodge system in tera not so perfect so u could like dodge fine mb once 15 sec or something like this .... dodge there mb when bers vs bers =D ahahah

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5/11/12 10:16:06 AM#57

Is it just me or is Kuterv just typing in his/her own languge o.o?

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5/11/12 10:18:33 AM#58
Originally posted by SoulOfRaziel
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yes it is gear dependent and in PvP it is unbelievable how much it is Lvl dependent and not player skill dependent

That's one thing I was afraid of. I'm a big fan of skill over gear. Glad I didn't pre-order the game or buy it at the store the other day out of boredom.

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5/11/12 10:46:43 AM#59
Originally posted by Tayah
Originally posted by SoulOfRaziel
Originally posted by citalkay

The idea of the game being heavily gear dependent is making me worry quite a bit.

Can anyone confirm that the game is heavily gear dependent?

Yes it is gear dependent and in PvP it is unbelievable how much it is Lvl dependent and not player skill dependent

That's one thing I was afraid of. I'm a big fan of skill over gear. Glad I didn't pre-order the game or buy it at the store the other day out of boredom.

I like how everyoen who say its gear>skill never played PvP much and only experienced it through ganking. As some one who been pvping a lot after hitting 60, Gears barely matter. I fought people wiht +9 weapons with my full +0 set and i seen peopel fight other with +6-9 gear with full +0 winning or holding their own perfectly fine. So yes the lvl different matter and it sucks but Skill > Gear period.

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5/12/12 3:22:42 AM#60

1/3 gear dependant

2/3 level dependant

This is in reference to grinding and dungeon survivability. Mobs are orange "con" to you when they are 2 lvls higher unlike many other mmos that would take 4-5 lvl difference. This is intended so you are pushed towards the right quest hubs to suit your level. You start getting many quest locations later on (im lvl 56 right now) and when you pass certain gaps of quests you will notice mobs jump a few or more levels. This is usually an indicator that you should be seeking another quest hub location.

Now obviously at lvl 60. gear is a whole other factor as in almost any mmorpg. complaining about that is just your lack of enjoyment of this genre imo.

 

Gear will help you but it wont win for you. This is truly a skill based game. You get hit by that enraged monsters special and who gives a crap what gear you have on. If you cant handle it. Go play gw2 (tehe).

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