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  gestalt11

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5/08/12 2:35:08 PM#81
Originally posted by saurus123
Originally posted by Torqia

Its Pay to not be annoyed...

So you need to pay real money to open lockboxes.... sigh

Yes that isnt pay to win but if you dont pay, your gonna feel like you cant get the items you grinded for and that would piss me off terribly.

Yes they need to make money but i for one HATE HATE HATE this model. 

yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords

When you say "turn you in to animal"

do you mean like this:

Cuz I would pay for that.

  Alders

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5/08/12 2:35:34 PM#82
Originally posted by saurus123
Originally posted by Torqia

Its Pay to not be annoyed...

So you need to pay real money to open lockboxes.... sigh

Yes that isnt pay to win but if you dont pay, your gonna feel like you cant get the items you grinded for and that would piss me off terribly.

Yes they need to make money but i for one HATE HATE HATE this model. 

yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords

At one point i consumed keeps with fireballs from my eyes and bolts of lightning from my arse.

  Xristo

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5/08/12 2:37:11 PM#83
Originally posted by SoulOfRaziel
Originally posted by Ariakys
Originally posted by SoulOfRaziel
Originally posted by Torqia

Its Pay to not be annoyed...

So you need to pay real money to open lockboxes.... sigh

Yes that isnt pay to win but if you dont pay, your gonna feel like you cant get the items you grinded for and that would piss me off terribly.

Yes they need to make money but i for one HATE HATE HATE this model. 

AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

box keys can be dropped from mobs....

You can exchange ur gold for GEMS wich means u can buy "cash" itens without spend a single cent.

 

This ^^^

I'm getting sick of retards not doing any research and ass.u.m(e)ing that they know what they are talking about.....ffs do some research/analysis before just wasting peoples' time on misleading threads....

GEMS acuired by CASH ORRRRRRRRR in game GOLD

KEYS bought by GEMS ORRRRRRRR drop in game,

This is not rocket science....quit making excuses not to play. Just don't f*cking play....D3 and WoW is ----> way. 

I know this thread is from the BWE but just a few posts above me (dated today) you got somebody using this thread to justify not playing...still...NOT READING...smh

Much love :)

 ur post was directed to both me and the OP or just the OP??? cause thats what i said...

Sorry if it came off looking towards you. I was agreeing with you haha. I came in here blasting the OP but then, ironically not doing MY research, noticed that the OP repented later in the thread. This was directed towards whoever believes that the system MAKES you spend money....it doesn't. :)

  Fozzik

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5/08/12 2:37:18 PM#84


Originally posted by saurus123

yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords


I got a box drop in the game, got a key drop, and inside the box was a potion that turned me into an owl. The first skill on my skillbar was "win"...I pressed it, and everyone died.


True story.


The cash shop items like the keys and the plant food are designed to take advantage of impatient people. If you just play, you don't need to buy anything. With that said, though...the one thing that annoys me is that you can only grow one dye seed at a time. I was surprised by that. *shrug* Not a big deal, but it will take a LONG time to grow all the dyes if you collect them all and they take 24 hours each. Like a year or more.

  KickinPups2

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5/08/12 2:39:02 PM#85
Originally posted by Torqia

Its Pay to not be annoyed...

So you need to pay real money to open lockboxes.... sigh

Yes that isnt pay to win but if you dont pay, your gonna feel like you cant get the items you grinded for and that would piss me off terribly.

Yes they need to make money but i for one HATE HATE HATE this model. 

Once again someone with the wrong info spitting out farce information to make G2 look bad...Simply put...When a lockbox drops a key will follow.. I had two drop during beta and both times key dropped... Inside the box was a gem and random items that you could buy from the store if you choose too..Instead I got it for free so your analigy of Pay to be annoyed is wrong so continue trolling elsewhere.

 

 

(Signed a G2 Fanboi that enjous squashing the trolltards and those with false comments daily)

  OldMMOGamer

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Posts: 66

5/08/12 2:39:29 PM#86
Originally posted by Fozzik

 


Originally posted by saurus123

 

yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords



 

I got a box drop in the game, got a key drop, and inside the box was a potion that turned me into an owl. The first skill on my skillbar was "win"...I pressed it, and everyone died.


True story.


The cash shop items like the keys and the plant food are designed to take advantage of impatient people. If you just play, you don't need to buy anything. With that said, though...the one thing that annoys me is that you can only grow one dye seed at a time. I was surprised by that. *shrug* Not a big deal, but it will take a LONG time to grow all the dyes if you collect them all and they take 24 hours each. Like a year or more.

Thats one powerful owl.....

  Fozzik

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Posts: 543

5/08/12 2:40:16 PM#87


Originally posted by OldMMOGamer


Originally posted by Fozzik
 



Originally posted by saurus123
 
yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords




 
I got a box drop in the game, got a key drop, and inside the box was a potion that turned me into an owl. The first skill on my skillbar was "win"...I pressed it, and everyone died.

True story.

The cash shop items like the keys and the plant food are designed to take advantage of impatient people. If you just play, you don't need to buy anything. With that said, though...the one thing that annoys me is that you can only grow one dye seed at a time. I was surprised by that. *shrug* Not a big deal, but it will take a LONG time to grow all the dyes if you collect them all and they take 24 hours each. Like a year or more.


Thats one powerful owl.....

Smile when you say that, friend. He can see you from a mile away.

  TwoThreeFour

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Joined: 3/26/12
Posts: 1680

5/08/12 2:45:36 PM#88
Originally posted by KickinPups2
Originally posted by Torqia

Its Pay to not be annoyed...

So you need to pay real money to open lockboxes.... sigh

Yes that isnt pay to win but if you dont pay, your gonna feel like you cant get the items you grinded for and that would piss me off terribly.

Yes they need to make money but i for one HATE HATE HATE this model. 

Once again someone with the wrong info spitting out farce information to make G2 look bad...Simply put...When a lockbox drops a key will follow.. I had two drop during beta and both times key dropped... Inside the box was a gem and random items that you could buy from the store if you choose too..Instead I got it for free so your analigy of Pay to be annoyed is wrong so continue trolling elsewhere.

 

 

(Signed a G2 Fanboi that enjous squashing the trolltards and those with false comments daily)

The keys need to be rarer than the boxes in order to make key-selling meaningful n the item mall. Just because you belong to the % who received equal amount of keys and boxes, it doesn't mean that you belong to the norm. If it actually was equally high chance to get a key as it is to get a box, there would be absolutely no problem and it would be stupid to sell keys in item mall.

  TwoThreeFour

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Posts: 1680

5/08/12 2:47:01 PM#89
Originally posted by Fozzik

 


Originally posted by saurus123

 

yes and these boxes give you insane buffs that turn you into animal and you pwn everything even castle lords


 

I got a box drop in the game, got a key drop, and inside the box was a potion that turned me into an owl. The first skill on my skillbar was "win"...I pressed it, and everyone died.


True story.


The cash shop items like the keys and the plant food are designed to take advantage of impatient people. If you just play, you don't need to buy anything. With that said, though...the one thing that annoys me is that you can only grow one dye seed at a time. I was surprised by that. *shrug* Not a big deal, but it will take a LONG time to grow all the dyes if you collect them all and they take 24 hours each. Like a year or more.

 

Or they may be designed to take advantage of both impatient and normal people. Hard to say where the line is drawn.

  Atlan99

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Posts: 1355

5/08/12 2:52:26 PM#90
Originally posted by SoulOfRaziel
 

why is it bad? u can open the box u find from monster with keys that u can find from monsters too.

keys can be dropped from monster OR bought in store its ur call =]

i dont really see a down side here

Well the chances of the key dropping are slimmer than the chances of you getting a box.

That has to be built into the system. If it isn't then the whole system becomes redundant.

So while it is possible to get a key, it is in Arenanet's best interest to make that chance slim. This way you buy keys from their shop.

Is it bad?  I just think it tarnishes their image a little. It makes the game feel cheaper. It brings down a game with high standards.

  heartless

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5/08/12 2:59:06 PM#91

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

  p_c_sousa

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Posts: 627

5/08/12 2:59:51 PM#92

i too during BW pick a box (first) and than a key.

i dont remember what i get but maybe was a 5x imp potion or anything else. the imp potion was very fun, turn me in a RED fly imp, but as i say im not sure if i win that on box. 

  TwoThreeFour

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Posts: 1680

5/08/12 3:10:25 PM#93
Originally posted by heartless

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

A problem is that, assuming it is properly designed so that keys are rarer than boxes, for many people, the extra boxes will be a reminder of the item mall. Some people may find that to be very annoying. 

  heartless

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5/08/12 3:15:44 PM#94
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by heartless

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

A problem is that, assuming it is properly designed so that keys are rarer than boxes, for many people, the extra boxes will be a reminder of the item mall. Some people may find that to be very annoying. 

If developers had to worry about all of the things that can possibly annoy some people, video games would not exist.

  Redemp

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5/08/12 3:17:38 PM#95

 WHY was this thread necro'd ?

Mods! Smite this thing.

  gestalt11

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5/08/12 3:20:16 PM#96
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by heartless

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

A problem is that, assuming it is properly designed so that keys are rarer than boxes, for many people, the extra boxes will be a reminder of the item mall. Some people may find that to be very annoying. 

If developers had to worry about all of the things that can possibly annoy some people, video games would not exist.

Pretty sure you can sell the boxes.  And I think I would rather sell them for in game money than open them, frankly.  I hate managing buff like that. 

Although that +2% magic find buff I found was tempting.

  TwoThreeFour

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5/08/12 3:21:05 PM#97
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by heartless

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

A problem is that, assuming it is properly designed so that keys are rarer than boxes, for many people, the extra boxes will be a reminder of the item mall. Some people may find that to be very annoying. 

If developers had to worry about all of the things that can possibly annoy some people, video games would not exist.

It has not gone too many years since legal RMT was completely frowned upon, it is not too unrealistic to think that some people still get a bad taste in their mouth whenever they get reminded.

  gestalt11

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5/08/12 3:21:15 PM#98
Originally posted by Redemp

 WHY was this thread necro'd ?

Mods! Smite this thing.

Because it was made before the beta and now has input from people who have practical experience with it.

  User Deleted
5/08/12 3:22:19 PM#99
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by heartless

Both mystic chests and mystic keys can be sold to and purchased from the auction house. Both are also random drops from mobs and personal mission rewards.

Mysic chests do not contain any valuable gear. They contain potions, buffs and elixirs that polymorph you into mobs. While polymorphed you cannot attack or even jump. Hardly worthy of all this whining.

A problem is that, assuming it is properly designed so that keys are rarer than boxes, for many people, the extra boxes will be a reminder of the item mall. Some people may find that to be very annoying. 

sooooo a reminder of a cash shop which doesn't force you to use it or it shuts off its game to you vs a monthly sub reminder every month that if you do not pay you can not play...  I find the monthly sub more annoying and useless then some random chests that "remind" me of a gdam cash shop that DOES NOT FORCE me to use it...

 

though it may be annoying to some people they still are NOT FORCED to use the cash shop and it gives ABSOLUTELY NO unfair advantage over those who do not use it vs those who chose to use it. Especially with these keys.. I mean seriously!! big whoopy fricken deal...

 

The chests are convenience and the keys in the cash shop are nothing more then the same.  They are simply providing a way for people to give themselves more convenience not unfair advantage.  Who cares if its annoying, its no different then vender trash throw it out if you do not wish to use it or put it in the auction house.

 

now if Anet, speculation, if Anet started putting some unfair gear / advantages in these chests then we would have something to cry our little eyes out over but seriously pissen an moaning over something so silly is laughable. (facepalm)

 

  Redemp

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5/08/12 3:25:45 PM#100
Originally posted by gestalt11
Originally posted by Redemp

 WHY was this thread necro'd ?

Mods! Smite this thing.

Because it was made before the beta and now has input from people who have practical experience with it.

 You know thats not why it was necro'd.

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