Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

Originally posted by eddieg50

   Yes especially after playing Swtor which has excellent quests.  That being said Tera is not a bad game but think how much better it would be with decent quests.  How people play PvE with this game is beyond me.  This game is strictly a hardcore PvP game

I found the quests in SWTOR to be worse.  Much more repetative and less variety.  All kill 10 of whatever.

Just because the quest text is voiced by some amatuer voice actor doesn't mean there was more to them.  In fact I'd say there was less to them.

 

You truly found the quest in Tor worst than in Tera??? I didn't play much of Tor, but the quest in Tera are as generic as can be. Is there any particular reason why you say Tera's quest are better?

Well, first of all, I was really turned off by the voice system because I was constantly "watching" the game instead of playing the game, and I'm not sure what people get out of having the choice of saying "That's crazy" or "Wow" every once in awhile while they watch the quest text read to them.

But for quests, the writing was some of the worst I've ever seen.  Just one rediculous reason to go kill a bunch of stuff after another.

TERA's quests flow together and it feels like one immersive world, and the questlines culmilate in some sort of event.  SWTOR's quests were mostly a bunch of isolated quests because you jumped from planet to planet and each one had it's own (badly written) story going on.

If anything, I don't see how TERA's quests are worse than any other themepark, as so many are saying.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Because obviously all you do at end game is questing.....

My god why do people feel the need to repeat same damn thing thats been stated for the past fcking 3 month.

If a game isn't good until the endgame, then it isn't good, period.

Still, "kill 10 rats" is only bad if the process of killing rats is boring.

Originally posted by RedKatana

Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by RedKatana
Started Tera 2 days ago and been reading every quest in my suprise all of them are linked to the main storyline and have my attention for good. Looks like another gw2 fan that has nothing else to say, plase release gw2 allready so all these haters go play their laggy cash shop game.

Tera also has a cash shop.

 

Cash shop for iventory/bank slots? Characters slots? Dont act dumb.

Thats exactly what gw2 has, so don't act dumb.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by RedKatana

Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by RedKatana
Started Tera 2 days ago and been reading every quest in my suprise all of them are linked to the main storyline and have my attention for good. Looks like another gw2 fan that has nothing else to say, plase release gw2 allready so all these haters go play their laggy cash shop game.

Tera also has a cash shop.

 

Cash shop for iventory/bank slots? Characters slots? Dont act dumb.

Yes, (Qualifier) fluff and service items just like in GW2 lol. Don't act dumb.

No you buy inventory space from npc with in game gold.

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Originally posted by Leucent

 Funny how some people enjoy smashing down doors for hours. Some of my most enjoyable times I ve had in any MMO was DAOC and keep takes. Tera is on par with some of the worst quests know to MMOs. I made it to all the magic levels of "it gets better after" and well to me it doesn t. Oh well then have you done a dungeon, or BAM, yes they re nothing special at all. Tera will have it s crowd, a small one at that. It will survive, but don t be shocked whenit s down to 2-3 servers in a short time, and a cash shop with a sub.

Enjoy smashing down your doors for hours.  I'll enjoy hunting BAMs and running dungeons, and participating in combat that  is actually strategic and doesn't feel like a cluster**** of particle effects being vomited on my screen.  

 

I seen larger GvG in cbt than GW2 WvW just saying.... and hell lot more stragety required too,

This I can honestly say is a Tera fanbois reacting. GvG battles consist of next to no strategy , you aren t gaining control, theres no strategic points to take whatsoever, you don t gain anything as far as strategic points goes, you aren t sending out smaller forces to take supply points.You aren t sending out forces to get more supply.  You don t need to cut off reinforcements trying to get to a keep. You don t have anything to fight over period. Strategy isn t all about combat, the strategy on the battlefield, is alot more then knowing what button to push at any given time. Theres so much more involved in GW2 WvW then Teras gankfest then you obviously know about.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

I seen larger GvG in cbt than GW2 WvW just saying.... and hell lot more stragety required too,

Why do people post crap like this?  Yes, Im sure you know for a fact based on limited beta testing that TERA PvP requires a lot less 'stragety' than GW2.  I am not saying it does or does not, but it is clearly 100% impossible to tell at this stage, especially since people havent had as much time to tweak with character customizations.  

If people are upset about people bashing TERA, or even posting legitimate critiques, and one of your stock reponses is 'you obviously havent gotten past the starter zone, or it gets better at level xx', perhaps it is best not to be hypocritical and pass judgments based on equally limited experiences.

The reason why there is so much TERA vs. GW2 crap on these forums isn't the GW2 fans (mostly).  Ive been accused of being a GW2 fan or even a fanboi despite the fact that I have limited curiosity about the game and unsure if I will buy it or not.

Originally posted by xposeidon

Wow another thread bashing TERA, I mean we all know the combat is the main attraction of this game, everything else is to the side and second thought. I think we know that this game is only going to be for a specific type of people, a niche of players, a fanbase who will stay loyal to it and praise it for what it is and I think it's time to start accepting that. I guess people are just dissapointed that this could have been a much better game if it wasn't so generic and dull, if there was some innovation to it and if the developers would have put a little bit more effort on the other aspects of the game.

Having that said, I agree that the quests in these game are goddamn awful.

quick start another one with your 15 TERA-bashing comments alone today. I mean u have to start another one before people actually start thinking the game is great. We can't have that now can we!!!!! 

The quests suck, kill  3 of those, gather 3 of that. We can't have any of that.

I kind of get the feeling that they designed a combat system and just threw together a completely uninspired game.  They must have felt that Koreans like grinding since they have so many kill quests.  En Masse has been doing all sorts of stuff to try and make the game appealing to westerners but they seriously have their work cut out for them.   

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

I thought you purchased the Chronoscrolls with real cash and then sold them in game for gold? If not then my mistake

Chronoscrolls FAQ

Q: In ten seconds tell me, what are chronoscrolls?

A: Chronoscrolls are an in-game item we're using to fight gold farming, game account theft, phishing, chat spam, and other criminal behaviors in order to create a better gameplay environment for TERA. Players can trade their excess gold for chronoscrolls and redeem those chronoscrolls to play TERA for free. Other players can buy chronoscrolls and sell them in the game as a way to earn more gold. Both groups of players get what they want, without having to interact with cyber-criminals. By creating a legal market where players trade game gold for game time, we can reduce demand for the illegal trading of game gold for real money, and thereby reduce criminal enterprises. That might be more like a twenty second answer, but I think it hits the key points. Of course, you probably have a lot more questions now!

http://tera.enmasse.com/chronoscrolls-faq

 

And then I must ask, did they decide against bringing the kTera shop over here as well? The one with the mounts, glasses, weapon skins, etc.?

Wait... where was the comment about quests... you know the topic of this thread?

Oh there isn't any?

How about ya stop derailing the thread.

To answer your OFF TOPIC question, yes there are chorno scrolls, NO there are no other items, in fact Chrono scrolls are not even available yet.  Also they said about the Korean TERA cash shop that they have not made a choice on the cosmetic item shop one way or the other yet, they're more focused on actually getting the game out the door.

And if you complain about cosmetic items in an MMO then I guess you havn't been around for the past few years, because every single mmo has one now.

Back on topic pah lease?

Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Because obviously all you do at end game is questing.....

My god why do people feel the need to repeat same damn thing thats been stated for the past fcking 3 month.

If a game isn't good until the endgame, then it isn't good, period.

Still, "kill 10 rats" is only bad if the process of killing rats is boring.

Between 2 closed beta's, the open beta and launch period I have run the starter island and leveled one of each class at least once, (to level 12-16) for a total of 14 times.

OMG, how could I stand to do so? All those boring quests, repetitive mobs and small, walled terrain?

Because I enjoy the combat.  Even at levels 1-12 each class plays slightly different and I enjoy trying to kill things using the different approaches/skills. (Damn, playing as a Sorc is tough, never seen such a squishy class)

In many situations I don't care to read the quest text, I just gather up the quests as quickly as I can, march out and lay waste to whatever happens to get in my way.  Heck, I even go back for repeatable quests, and then crush the same set of NPC's again and again just for the fun of it.

Now on the other hand, sometimes I read the quest text (especially the storylines) and they are quite good (ok, decent at least) and when I took down a traitor it was actually sort of sobering in its conclusion. (and satisfying, the guy was a douche)

So no, TERA is no SWTOR in terms of breaking new ground in quest story lines, but I find them sufficent to the task, giving me great reasons to kill stuff, which is my primary interest in MMO's.

Kill 10 rats? Just call me the Orkin™ man.

Tera didnt bring nothing sooooooooooo revolutianary but it realy refreshing to play something with this cobat system.

About GW2 for you fan boys:

TERA and their ppl behind it never said thay are 2nd best game after WOW and they will not stop till they become numero uno !!

GW2 is worst gaming experience I ever had.

WHY? (I have to give a reason cause i was baned 3 times from Administrators for...... well,  beasicly they are right now on the payroll from NC Soft so you have to be cerful and SWTOR PR`s are not paying anymore so you can freely talk tresh about the game).

- GW2 is a GW1 with a bit polished graphics.

- GW2 implemented ideas from WArhammer Online and that is a good thing ????

-  They made a system where you do not even need to be part of any group and in any guid or to ever talk to anyone in game, nice game for PvP sociopats that are and should be treated as 2nd rated population in any game.

- Finaly, their combat system is the same old thing we saw in every other MMORPG from last 10 years.

GW2 is the game and have system like you live in a world called "DAILY QUESTS".

- Quests in GW2 are ...................... SERIOSLY............... LOL !!!!!!

You couldn't be more off.

How am I the cancer if I support all MMO's wholeheartedly regardless of their miniscule flaws?

The games are meant to be enjoyed, not knit picked because theres tiny imperfections that you don't like about them.  Being 

able to please gamers is a thing of the past because all they do is sit at their computers and judge masterpieces all day while

they contribute nothing but negativity. You try making the perfect game. Oh wait thats right, you can't.

just wanted to state two things.

As of 5/8/2012 NA TERA does not have a cash shop. It will probably have one eventually but it does not have one now.

As for the actual topic "the quests" I personally hate questing and man made storylines in an MMO. I personally play MMO's to create my "own" story with my character (not an RP'er btw). I actually thought until recently that most MMO gamers were like this but the last few years have shown me to be an odd outlier.

That being said my older brother is the complete opposite. If an MMO is boring storywise he will not play it for more than a few days. While the yellow quests are standard quests with minimal story (sporewalkers are killing my crops kill 10 and....) the red quests, storyline quests, are actually very well done. My brother read the background lore provided while installing the game and watches every second of every story-line cutscene and he is loving it. He will actually text me to log in because he wants to see what happens next.

Dont get me wrong his excitement has not convinced me to watch one cutscene or read an entire quest yet but that is because it is not my thing. For someone who does love that stuff the storyline quests seem extremely well done.

Originally posted by uofa13l

just wanted to state two things.

 

As of 5/8/2012 NA TERA does not have a cash shop. It will probably have one eventually but it does not have one now.

 

As for the actual topic "the quests" I personally hate questing and man made storylines in an MMO. I personally play MMO's to create my "own" story with my character (not an RP'er btw). I actually thought until recently that most MMO gamers were like this but the last few years have shown me to be an odd outlier.

That being said my older brother is the complete opposite. If an MMO is boring storywise he will not play it for more than a few days. While the yellow quests are standard quests with minimal story (sporewalkers are killing my crops kill 10 and....) the red quests, storyline quests, are actually very well done. My brother read the background lore provided while installing the game and watches every second of every story-line cutscene and he is loving it. He will actually text me to log in because he wants to see what happens next.

Dont get me wrong his excitement has not convinced me to watch one cutscene or read an entire quest yet but that is because it is not my thing. For someone who does love that stuff the storyline quests seem extremely well done.

Can`t agree more on this one.

Now if they only fix the cutscene, so from what I heard there are 2 type of cutscene, video and live. video are the ones that require things the game engine can't so and those are the bad cutscene. the ones with mushy graphics and the voice out of sync. The llive ones are build with the game engine and graphic is clear, and voice match whats going on. I really hope they fix it XD

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by rexzshadow

I seen larger GvG in cbt than GW2 WvW just saying.... and hell lot more stragety required too,

Why do people post crap like this?  Yes, Im sure you know for a fact based on limited beta testing that TERA PvP requires a lot less 'stragety' than GW2.  I am not saying it does or does not, but it is clearly 100% impossible to tell at this stage, especially since people havent had as much time to tweak with character customizations.  

 Let me ask how much stragety can you possible have when more than half your force are people you don't know? Just in CBT i done good amount of GvG that was base on purely on stragety. My guild has taken on 1:2 and 1:3 ratio because our leader was a better stragist than the enemy guild. Also any two large guild waring can easly go 100+ vs 100+ not to say if some other guilds don't decide to join in to mess with them.

If people are upset about people bashing TERA, or even posting legitimate critiques, and one of your stock reponses is 'you obviously havent gotten past the starter zone, or it gets better at level xx', perhaps it is best not to be hypocritical and pass judgments based on equally limited experiences.

 expect GW2 has been claimed to be the greatest game in existance from the start ot finish for god knows how long. Suddenly everyone start saying its only in Beta blah blah blah... mabye shouldn't have been to bold to proclaim it so great before.,

The reason why there is so much TERA vs. GW2 crap on these forums isn't the GW2 fans (mostly).  Ive been accused of being a GW2 fan or even a fanboi despite the fact that I have limited curiosity about the game and unsure if I will buy it or not.

It was mostly all GW2 fans till GW2 Beta and Tera launch where Tera finally pick up some support and have people fighting back for Tera. Before it was just 10 GW2 fan bashing Tera with like 2-3 people defending tera on the forum.

Well, the game didn't work out in asia so they tried their luck with rest of the world... Not working that well, so fa, either...

I wonder what did they change so drastically from the asian market.. Maybe that's why the quests are so terrible?

Maybe they just added a lot of quests to the existing ones and that's why the story of the quests doesn't merge in so well... Just what I think :)

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by rexzshadow

I seen larger GvG in cbt than GW2 WvW just saying.... and hell lot more stragety required too,

Why do people post crap like this?  Yes, Im sure you know for a fact based on limited beta testing that TERA PvP requires a lot less 'stragety' than GW2.  I am not saying it does or does not, but it is clearly 100% impossible to tell at this stage, especially since people havent had as much time to tweak with character customizations.  

 Let me ask how much stragety can you possible have when more than half your force are people you don't know? Just in CBT i done good amount of GvG that was base on purely on stragety. My guild has taken on 1:2 and 1:3 ratio because our leader was a better stragist than the enemy guild. Also any two large guild waring can easly go 100+ vs 100+ not to say if some other guilds don't decide to join in to mess with them.

If people are upset about people bashing TERA, or even posting legitimate critiques, and one of your stock reponses is 'you obviously havent gotten past the starter zone, or it gets better at level xx', perhaps it is best not to be hypocritical and pass judgments based on equally limited experiences.

 expect GW2 has been claimed to be the greatest game in existance from the start ot finish for god knows how long. Suddenly everyone start saying its only in Beta blah blah blah... mabye shouldn't have been to bold to proclaim it so great before.,

The reason why there is so much TERA vs. GW2 crap on these forums isn't the GW2 fans (mostly).  Ive been accused of being a GW2 fan or even a fanboi despite the fact that I have limited curiosity about the game and unsure if I will buy it or not.

It was mostly all GW2 fans till GW2 Beta and Tera launch where Tera finally pick up some support and have people fighting back for Tera. Before it was just 10 GW2 fan bashing Tera with like 2-3 people defending tera on the forum.

 

Here is a pretty secret piece of information, this may very well shatter your very existence:  Not every negatiive post is from a guild wars 2 fan.  And even if they are, the motivation isnt necessarily because they are a GW2 fan, but rather because they are a MMORPG fan.

Also zerg vs zerg strategy in a game with limited skill customization vs. objective based, multifactional PvP with heavy skill customization strategy are two completely different animals.  

Also, I'm guessing English isn't your primary language based on your post, but the word is 'strategy.'

Originally posted by koljane

GW2 has more HYPE then true quality.

-Where did you get that idea? Where did you find something that's missing in the game from what they've promissed us (not to mention the game is still in beta and is more polished than any other mmorpg in it's released state).

Most agressive marketing I saw after AION and we know that NC Soft is also behind it.

- Are you sure about that? What marketing? The game had no aggressive marketing before the beta, nor does it have one now xD..

GW2 is a good game but not even close to the hype that is risen around it. Played BETA and I know that there is not so many things that can be changed before it comes.

- I wonder if you played the beta really, because if you did you would know EVERYTHING ANet promissed is in the game. Everything they've talked about and showed us IS THERE! So hype for whatever they told us is the actual real hype... If it wasn't so there wouldn't be so few people who didn't like the beta.  

Like i like to say: "If it looks like shit, and smells like shit............. it is shit" (Don`t say that GW2 IS shit).

-then why didn't you go with the "if it looks like a duck and moves like a duck.... what is it?"

WOW and GW2 are games that are basicly taking ideas that other ppl already implemented in their games.

Just i personaly dont like the ideas that GW2 took and that is it.

- just because you personaly don't like the ideas GW2 HAS (they didn't take anything, the ones you should be talking that took something is TERA since the main 4 devs are charged of theft from ANet) doesn't make it a bad game or bad ideas... GW2 actually has the most ideas which are original from any other mmorpg dev that I've seen. Not something you could say about TERA now, is it?

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by rexzshadow

I seen larger GvG in cbt than GW2 WvW just saying.... and hell lot more stragety required too,

Why do people post crap like this?  Yes, Im sure you know for a fact based on limited beta testing that TERA PvP requires a lot less 'stragety' than GW2.  I am not saying it does or does not, but it is clearly 100% impossible to tell at this stage, especially since people havent had as much time to tweak with character customizations.  

 Let me ask how much stragety can you possible have when more than half your force are people you don't know? Just in CBT i done good amount of GvG that was base on purely on stragety. My guild has taken on 1:2 and 1:3 ratio because our leader was a better stragist than the enemy guild. Also any two large guild waring can easly go 100+ vs 100+ not to say if some other guilds don't decide to join in to mess with them.

If people are upset about people bashing TERA, or even posting legitimate critiques, and one of your stock reponses is 'you obviously havent gotten past the starter zone, or it gets better at level xx', perhaps it is best not to be hypocritical and pass judgments based on equally limited experiences.

 expect GW2 has been claimed to be the greatest game in existance from the start ot finish for god knows how long. Suddenly everyone start saying its only in Beta blah blah blah... mabye shouldn't have been to bold to proclaim it so great before.,

The reason why there is so much TERA vs. GW2 crap on these forums isn't the GW2 fans (mostly).  Ive been accused of being a GW2 fan or even a fanboi despite the fact that I have limited curiosity about the game and unsure if I will buy it or not.

It was mostly all GW2 fans till GW2 Beta and Tera launch where Tera finally pick up some support and have people fighting back for Tera. Before it was just 10 GW2 fan bashing Tera with like 2-3 people defending tera on the forum.

 

Here is a pretty secret piece of information, this may very well shatter your very existence:  Not every negatiive post is from a guild wars 2 fan.  And even if they are, the motivation isnt necessarily because they are a GW2 fan, but rather because they are a MMORPG fan.

Also zerg vs zerg strategy in a game with limited skill customization vs. objective based, multifactional PvP with heavy skill customization strategy are two completely different animals.  

Also, I'm guessing English isn't your primary language based on your post, but the word is 'strategy.'

Ya my spelling sucks so sorry if its messing =X and by strategy is when fighting in group require lot of strategy you use in real life war. Flanking, depending squishy hold postion. Shift to get in to better postion, don't get trap all those stuff. Doesn't require objective to make thing stratgic, the fight itself is. You can have all the objective in the world but if people can't work together because they are all random people there is no stragety just random mobs.

Originally posted by koljane

GW2 has more HYPE then true quality. 

Most agressive marketing I saw after AION and we know that NC Soft is also behind it.

I can truly say that 50% of ppl trolling about GW2 is not about the game as it is and what is bringing but about they whay they are trying to represent it.

GW2 is a good game but not even close to the hype that is risen around it. Played BETA and I know that there is not so many things that can be changed before it comes.

Like i like to say: "If it looks like shit, and smells like shit............. it is shit" (Don`t say that GW2 IS shit). 

WOW and GW2 are games that are basicly taking ideas that other ppl already implemented in their games.

Just i personaly dont like the ideas that GW2 took and that is it.

FOR ADMINISTRATORS OF THIS FAIR SITE: 

- If you are banning ppl for posting things that can lead to ppl trolling and get into a non healty conversation you should aslo ban ppl that make treads like this one.

- Worst Quests ever -

Then I can make a tread like "GW2 is the worst game ever"

This kind of treads are made to make trolling to the highest and to make space and prise game you are geting money to do.

Even a sparow on a branch can see that you are well payed from NC Soft for taking down anything that is not GW2.

Let me remind you all what were reviews about SW:TOR and how they were hyping the forums now you can see treads like "Should SW:TOR go free-to-play".

Shame on you MMORPG !!!!

I don't understand your comments about GW2.  Well, actually I don't understand much of your post at all.  I played in GW2 beta.  It was everything the hype said it was.  I tried all aspects of the game including WvWvW, structured pvp, Dynamic Events, Story Quests.  Everything worked.  Performance only had a slight slowdown in WvWvW mass battles.    I don't understand what you are talking about with regard to GW2 stealing features from other games.  You need to actually give examples or your post doesn't mean shit.  From what I can tell, GW2 borrowed heavily from GW1 (also a great game).  The dynamic events are completely novel and fun.  They are not at all like public quests in WAR, which basically just added a timer onto a normal quest.  Dynamic events happen like actual events.  Mobs run around and try to accomplish their goals, rather than just sitting in a field eating grass.   Anyway, please try and post examples about your opinions because otherwise no one will take you seriously. 

And TERA does have the worst quests ever.  No contest.  Nothing but kill ten X.  Also a huge quantity of kill ten X.  That is the definitiion of a grinding game.  Even WoW and SWTOR had better quests, and I HATE those games.  TERA really dropped the ball with content design.