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General Discussion  » GW2 is Tab Targeting, not Aim based like a TPS/FPS

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  OldManFunk

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5/07/12 1:18:28 PM#221

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

  p_c_sousa

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5/07/12 1:25:04 PM#222
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

  pacov

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5/07/12 1:31:24 PM#223
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

He never mentioned combat, so you shouldn't attack him like that, and besides I am sure he ment to say that tera and swtor have more features like wow than gw2... too bad clone is used way often these days...

  helthros

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5/07/12 1:32:45 PM#224
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

 

lol TERA is a wow clone.

 

GW2 is so different with it's public quests.. or are they called rifts? No wait, they're called Dynamic Events in this game. But I won't get into that.

 

I'm glad people are starting to break down just how much of a hybrid system this. It's not exactly fully on either side of the spectrum.

 

However, there clearly are skills that auto-target and home to the target.

http://youtu.be/rAi_2_eCf_A?t=4m6s

 

Side-stepping clearly didn't work there. He uses that charge at the start of every fight to auto-track to his target every time. Looking at the leap it doesn't seem to be as 100% on its accuracy. This makes me wonder if 'auto-lock' skills will end up being chosen more for PvP loadouts etc.

 

There are a few examples of his character auto-turning to meet the target on attacks as well which is pretty lame but oh well.

  OldManFunk

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5/07/12 1:32:51 PM#225
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

When you attack something in Tera your target pops up so it's exactly the same as WoW.

  helthros

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5/07/12 1:34:42 PM#226
Originally posted by OldManFunk
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

When you attack something in Tera your target pops up so it's exactly the same as WoW.

 

The game has swords and magic, it's obviously a WoW clone.

  OldManFunk

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5/07/12 1:35:31 PM#227
Originally posted by helthros
Originally posted by OldManFunk
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

When you attack something in Tera your target pops up so it's exactly the same as WoW.

 

The game has swords and magic, it's obviously a WoW clone.

I noticed that, too.

  ZombieKen

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5/07/12 1:36:53 PM#228
Originally posted by c-tray

I did try a staff on my Guardian which had some ranged abilities and I could fire without having a target and it would go in the direction i was facing, also can confirm 100% that players could move out of the way of my shot, without dodging and avoid any damage.

 

I'd try the staff with and without tab targeting.  I'm guessing that without tab targeting the shot is true "aimed" fired in a direction and it hits what it hits.  I'd be curious if the staff becomes sticky aiming (unable to be avoided without dodge) if a target is selected.

 

From a programmers perspective this makes sense in that the weapon handler would have two modes (or more) depending on circumstances and configuration settings.  In one mode it works like an FPS weapon.  In another it works like a conventional tab-target shot although possibly with exceptions like hitting something that wasn't targeted that got in the way or failed to hit because the target dodged in time to avoid it.

 

Sounds like a cool design if this is how it works.

  Zekiah

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5/07/12 1:37:51 PM#229

Was someone confused as to thinking it wasn't tab-targeting?

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  Derpybird

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5/07/12 1:40:03 PM#230
Originally posted by Zekiah

Was someone confused as to thinking it wasn't tab-targeting?

Apparently there were "misleading rumors" floating around, somewhere, and it was urgent to correct these.

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  Wickedjelly

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5/07/12 1:41:52 PM#231
Originally posted by Zekiah

Was someone confused as to thinking it wasn't tab-targeting?

As much as I hate to sound like I'm defending him there were more than a few posters scurrying around here beforehand saying essentially that.

Didn't seem to be a huge matter of contention that deserved this topic though.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  etlar

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5/07/12 1:42:29 PM#232
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Some people I am sure, are turned off from GW2 because all the misleading rumors about the gameplay being aim based.. But it isn't. It's tab target, with unique hit detection mechanic. Attacks still homing attacks like a tab target. Aiming the camera will not aim the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YxOeRyboxA

Around 3:00 you can see what I mean if you want visual proof. I know some fans will come in and not care, but many people are not as informed as you are, and believe the game uses aiming combat like MO or something, which it doesn't.

it is ranged tab target, try hitting a melle mob with monsters near it... if u dont wacth your swing you hit them all

:)

  Kakkzooka

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5/07/12 1:42:41 PM#233

Factually accurate thread title is factually accurate.

::nods::

Re: SWTOR

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  Unlight

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5/07/12 1:43:57 PM#234
Originally posted by Zekiah

Was someone confused as to thinking it wasn't tab-targeting?

That would be me.  It probably has something to do with not using the Tab key for the last two days of the BWE.  I can see my mistake now.

  p_c_sousa

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5/07/12 1:45:26 PM#235
Originally posted by pacov
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by OldManFunk

GW2 is different from WoW and WoW clones like Tera and SWTOR.

if you say Tera is a wow clone in terms of quest and other things i agree, but how can Tera be wow clone if the combat system is nothing to do with WoW?

SWTOR / LOTRO / RIFT in combat mechanic are wow clone obvious but Tera? really?

 

He never mentioned combat, so you shouldn't attack him like that, and besides I am sure he ment to say that tera and swtor have more features like wow than gw2... too bad clone is used way often these days...

that i agree but the post he made was nothing like that. he just say: (and i didnt atack anyone, just disagree with him)

TERA and SWTOR = WoW

GW2 not equal to WoW

if he say like you mencioned, GW2 are much more diferent from WoW than Tera  obvious i agree. GW2 and Tera both combat system are very far from WoW combat mechanic, both have amazing graphics( different styles). 

in the rest i agree, Tera have much more similarities with WoW compared with GW2. for me any comparasion betwen WoW and GW2 is that both are fantasy MMORPG and nothing more. 

  Velocinox

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5/07/12 1:46:31 PM#236

I'm a fan of what I saw in BWE1, but you guys are mixing terms.

GW2 *IS* a WoW type MMO. Dodge adds some tweaks, the dynamic events adds some tweaks, but underneath it all it has the heart of an EQ/WoW game.

Howerver, it is NOT a WoW 'CLONE'. That honor would go to games like Runes of Magic, Allods, Gates of Andaron, etc. Clone means exact duplicate intentionally as a wannabe, GW2 is not a WoW duplicate, however at it's core it is still an EQ/WoW type MMO.

  c-tray

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5/07/12 1:46:31 PM#237

even with tab targeting you can not, either one could step in front of the other, if they stand still well you "aim" =) in the direction you want to fire/swing.

you don't not need to tab, its optional but probably more effecient.

  ZombieKen

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5/07/12 1:46:31 PM#238
Originally posted by Unlight
Originally posted by Zekiah

Was someone confused as to thinking it wasn't tab-targeting?

That would be me.  It probably has something to do with not using the Tab key for the last two days of the BWE.  I can see my mistake now.

 

*BIG GRIN*

  Margrave

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5/07/12 1:47:40 PM#239

I played one whole day with no tab key use at all last bwe

  Unlight

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5/07/12 1:51:34 PM#240
Originally posted by c-tray

even with tab targeting you can not, either one could step in front of the other, if they stand still well you "aim" =) in the direction you want to fire/swing.

you don't not need to tab, its optional but probably more effecient.

It isn't more efficient, I can assure you.  If you've pre-purchased, try playing without it next time and see how much quicker you are in combat.  Just aim at your target and activate your skill. 

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