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  Loke666

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5/06/12 3:16:47 PM#21
Originally posted by Arachneus1

It doesn't seem like it is pay 2 win.  Afterall its just an item someone else had to find and didn't want to use.  They could sell it for gold or money.  If it was pay 2 win, then everything on the gold marketplace is along the same lines.  You can easily buy all the best items with gold to as long as they are listed on each of the markets.

It depends on how you define pay2win.

You wont find better items than anyone can find ingame there, but a bad player can get top gear for real money.

I don't like it.

  SoulOfRaziel

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5/06/12 3:22:38 PM#22
Originally posted by Force_Fire

So basically, if I have enough RL money I can buy everthing I want? OR did I fail to understand the auction house system?

well u can buy anything for sale from "cash" AH with RL money, so YES  

  waynejr2

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5/06/12 3:26:22 PM#23
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by Arachneus1

It doesn't seem like it is pay 2 win.  Afterall its just an item someone else had to find and didn't want to use.  They could sell it for gold or money.  If it was pay 2 win, then everything on the gold marketplace is along the same lines.  You can easily buy all the best items with gold to as long as they are listed on each of the markets.

It depends on how you define pay2win.

You wont find better items than anyone can find ingame there, but a bad player can get top gear for real money.

I don't like it.

So pretend you played the game for 6 months and had the time of your life.  Suddenly, someone tells you about his AH gear.  Does that destroy the fun you had?

  Istavaan

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5/06/12 3:27:07 PM#24

when real money is involved more gold sellers will come to play.

  Hrotha

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5/06/12 3:29:00 PM#25

Yes, I will be buying armor and weapons and all sorts of items for real money, if I think its appropriate.

  lettinjsh

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5/06/12 4:49:29 PM#26

Peoples who are ready to spend the money should start to play after 2-3 months , then everything will be way cheaper than ever. At first even ingame funds will be like a buks :D , later it will gradually change to opposite and finally this eco will collapse and game end after half a year .. hmm .. maybe faster (all depends on first grinder-leveler-i-can't-leave-the-game-while-someoene-is-online GUY's)

This eco works great for some bunch of ppls with big pockets (i dont care it was 10 or 1k buk's guy's) and developers, but it's very short-time system, so they will have to reduce the prices later, what will make a chaos in the game and quit-wave/s.

Cheers

  GTwander

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5/06/12 4:57:21 PM#27

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

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  Kost

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5/06/12 5:01:29 PM#28
Originally posted by GTwander

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/how-to

  Derpybird

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5/06/12 5:05:06 PM#29
Originally posted by GTwander

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

If you sell an item on the RMAH and someone buys it, Blizz takes a cut of either $1 or 15% of the purchase price. They pay you in battle.net bucks which can only be spent on Blizz products or services. If you want to get this in real money, you have to pay another 15% conversion fee, making the RMAH quite lucrative for Blizz, which is obviously why it was designed this way.

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  Grailer

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5/06/12 5:09:17 PM#30

If I saw something so rare and powerful for $5-$20 I probably would just buy it especially if I had tried farming it for a month with no luck .  But spending $250 well sure I could buy it but I bought stuff when I played another game which had a money shop and now that im not playing that game I really feel like I wasted my money so I learnt a lesson there.

As for buying gold , well say I was playing inferno and the cost of repairs was so high that I would need to farm Hell for a few days to get enough gold for repairs ,  I would consider buying gold . I would only do this knowing that I might get an item that is worth far more than the price of the gold I paid .

 

 

 

  GTwander

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5/06/12 5:16:07 PM#31
Originally posted by Charlizzard
Originally posted by GTwander

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

If you sell an item on the RMAH and someone buys it, Blizz takes a cut of either $1 or 15% of the purchase price. They pay you in battle.net bucks which can only be spent on Blizz products or services. If you want to get this in real money, you have to pay another 15% conversion fee, making the RMAH quite lucrative for Blizz, which is obviously why it was designed this way.

Take notes, people.

This IS the epitome of "evil genius".

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  Drakxii

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5/06/12 5:19:55 PM#32
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Charlizzard
Originally posted by GTwander

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

If you sell an item on the RMAH and someone buys it, Blizz takes a cut of either $1 or 15% of the purchase price. They pay you in battle.net bucks which can only be spent on Blizz products or services. If you want to get this in real money, you have to pay another 15% conversion fee, making the RMAH quite lucrative for Blizz, which is obviously why it was designed this way.

Take notes, people.

This IS the epitome of "evil genius".

Still better then a cash shop IMO.  Atleast they anrt going to program the game to be annoying so you spend money on making it less annoying.

I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.

  Lucioon

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5/08/12 7:23:08 AM#33
Originally posted by lettinjsh

Peoples who are ready to spend the money should start to play after 2-3 months , then everything will be way cheaper than ever. At first even ingame funds will be like a buks :D , later it will gradually change to opposite and finally this eco will collapse and game end after half a year .. hmm .. maybe faster (all depends on first grinder-leveler-i-can't-leave-the-game-while-someoene-is-online GUY's)

This eco works great for some bunch of ppls with big pockets (i dont care it was 10 or 1k buk's guy's) and developers, but it's very short-time system, so they will have to reduce the prices later, what will make a chaos in the game and quit-wave/s.

Cheers

But D3 isn't an MMO, therefore having a quit Wave isn't necessary gonna hurt the game at all. As long as you have a few thousand of players online, it will always look busy, while others play their single player campaigns.

And without PVP, the only time gear comes into play is a few month down the line, and players only play with others that has the top gear. Thats when the game becomes unbalanced and QQing starts.

But again ,its not an MMO, Blizzard don't really have to do anything, and if I am not mistaken, there is no subscription.

 

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  Unlight

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5/08/12 7:31:02 AM#34
Originally posted by Drakxii
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by Charlizzard
Originally posted by GTwander

My question is;

Do you have to convert real money into a kind of Blizzard-currency that can't be cashed back out?

E.G., you have to spend 10$ to get 1,000 credits, and then Blizz has your money, and you only have the choice of earning more credits from Players that have already coughed up real dough? Or is this closer to some kind of Entropia Universe thing?

If you sell an item on the RMAH and someone buys it, Blizz takes a cut of either $1 or 15% of the purchase price. They pay you in battle.net bucks which can only be spent on Blizz products or services. If you want to get this in real money, you have to pay another 15% conversion fee, making the RMAH quite lucrative for Blizz, which is obviously why it was designed this way.

Take notes, people.

This IS the epitome of "evil genius".

Still better then a cash shop IMO.  Atleast they anrt going to program the game to be annoying so you spend money on making it less annoying.

It's still a cash shop.  The only difference between it and a traditional one is that the profit is split between Blizzard and players.  From the buyer's perspective, you still pay for your gear with real money, only you're not getting anything that the developer needed create specifically for the shop.  It's just stuff that already exists and others were lucky enough to have drop for them.

  MikkelB

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Posts: 239

5/08/12 7:40:25 AM#35
Originally posted by Unlight

It's still a cash shop.  The only difference between it and a traditional one is that the profit is split between Blizzard and players.  From the buyer's perspective, you still pay for your gear with real money, only you're not getting anything that the developer needed create specifically for the shop.  It's just stuff that already exists and others were lucky enough to have drop for them.

In short, it's an auctionhouse where I can buy items with ingame gold and with cash. A cash shop would be like having the weaponvendor in Diablo 3 giving me the option to pay with ingame gold and with cash.

The (RM)AH just gives player the ability to trade with ingame gold and with cash. What also differs from my interpretation of a cash shop, is that there isn't a readily supply of every item in the (RM)AH.

  cyress8

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BOOYAKA!

5/08/12 7:45:58 AM#36
Originally posted by MikkelB
Originally posted by Unlight

It's still a cash shop.  The only difference between it and a traditional one is that the profit is split between Blizzard and players.  From the buyer's perspective, you still pay for your gear with real money, only you're not getting anything that the developer needed create specifically for the shop.  It's just stuff that already exists and others were lucky enough to have drop for them.

In short, it's an auctionhouse where I can buy items with ingame gold and with cash. A cash shop would be like having the weaponvendor in Diablo 3 giving me the option to pay with ingame gold and with cash.

The (RM)AH just gives player the ability to trade with ingame gold and with cash. What also differs from my interpretation of a cash shop, is that there isn't a readily supply of every item in the (RM)AH.

Scarcity of said items will make some item prices to be very high.  Every game that has rare items are priced through the roof.  So one could expect a sword to cost over 50 dollars?

BOOYAKA!

  MikkelB

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5/08/12 8:00:41 AM#37
Originally posted by cyress8
Originally posted by MikkelB
Originally posted by Unlight

It's still a cash shop.  The only difference between it and a traditional one is that the profit is split between Blizzard and players.  From the buyer's perspective, you still pay for your gear with real money, only you're not getting anything that the developer needed create specifically for the shop.  It's just stuff that already exists and others were lucky enough to have drop for them.

In short, it's an auctionhouse where I can buy items with ingame gold and with cash. A cash shop would be like having the weaponvendor in Diablo 3 giving me the option to pay with ingame gold and with cash.

The (RM)AH just gives player the ability to trade with ingame gold and with cash. What also differs from my interpretation of a cash shop, is that there isn't a readily supply of every item in the (RM)AH.

Scarcity of said items will make some item prices to be very high.  Every game that has rare items are priced through the roof.  So one could expect a sword to cost over 50 dollars?

Probably. It's you decision to buy it or not though. I know that it's not worth it for me. But I find the fact that someone can make 50 dollars legally with an ingame drop pretty intriguing. I see no downside in this, because like I said in another thread here, it's not exclusive. To clarify: if I want that sword, I can either buy it for say that 50 dollars, but I've also the choice to grind my ass off to get it. It's not exclusive to paying players and that choice I don't mind the (RM)AH at all.

  nariusseldon

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5/08/12 12:34:24 PM#38

Why is everyone focusing on buying?

It would be great to be able to sell off gear that i cannot use. Whether i pump that money back into the game, or cash it out .. is really up to me.

I like it.

  Draftbeer

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5/08/12 12:38:03 PM#39
Originally posted by nariusseldon

Why is everyone focusing on buying?

It would be great to be able to sell off gear that i cannot use. Whether i pump that money back into the game, or cash it out .. is really up to me.

I like it.

+1

My thoughts exactly.

  Icewhite

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5/08/12 12:43:20 PM#40
Originally posted by Draftbeer
My thoughts exactly.

Looking forward to those "Blizzard scammed my money omg" threads.

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