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5/05/12 9:06:57 PM#41
Originally posted by bcbully Welcome to the time were you can buy items out of the cash should with in game gold. |
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5/05/12 9:07:48 PM#42
Originally posted by RizelStar Saying buying gold doesn't give an advantage is like saying getting a drop doesn't give you an advantage. It does give an advantage relative to where you were before you bought the gold then bought the item, or got the drop. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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heartless
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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
5/05/12 9:14:09 PM#43
Originally posted by bcbully Advantage over who? Everyone in PvE works together. There is no competition. So you bought yourself some gold with gems and you purchased that amazing sword. If we're playing together, your sword actually benefits me because we can kill things faster. Moreover, the best items are actually purchased with karma, not gold. In structured PvP, you get standardized gear and are automatically leveled to 80, so your purchased gold does nothing. In WvW PvP, you get bumped to level 80 and all of the max level gear is the same item level, no matter the quality. So what exactly is the advantage here?
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5/05/12 9:32:02 PM#44
not sure if it was mentioned but I had about a 50% drop rate of kets from the chests themselves. I actually didn't see any drop so it is def. a luck thing. Cant wait to learn more about Mr Butler Golem.
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5/05/12 9:35:26 PM#45
Originally posted by heartless I just don't know anymore. If geeting a piece of new gear that you need doesn't matter anymore, smdh.. Then gear doesn't matter." You can say gear doesn't matter in this game in this game." Then why does it have stats on it? If getting better stats than the guy next to you (right then at that moment) doesn't matter then the game is fudmentally flawed. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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5/05/12 9:40:57 PM#46
Originally posted by bcbully it matters but its not very important. In GW1 you could get max gear at lvl 1 and it didn't hurt the game at all. This won't be the case in GW2 but it isn't all that important when compared to WoW or Rift or a other games with a nasty gear grind. Its about having fun in the game and looking good doing it. The "best" gear is really just the better looks.
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5/05/12 9:49:07 PM#47
Originally posted by ariboersma This, if someone the same level as you who for some strange reason decides to wear gear a few levels lower than you is more skilled than you he can still lay down some whoopass on ya, player skill trumps gear in this game, the affects of armor are negligeable, optimized gear (gear with skill points focused into certain areas since all gear of the same level has the same amount of points overall) with skill points focused in certain areas will make playing the way you prefer easyer, but again skill is gonna trump you.
and thats pvp there is no competition in PVE so having an advantage there is a moot point as any advantage you have helps everyone else around you.
EDIT: quick summary basicly everything your complaining about being an advantage, may be true at least in pvp but there it is negligeable and can be countered with skill and in pve its just a boon to everyone your playing with so i dont see much of a reason to complain. |
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5/05/12 9:53:02 PM#48
Originally posted by heartless Odd... I pictured it as more of a donation. Oderint, dum metuant. |
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5/05/12 9:58:16 PM#49
Originally posted by ariboersma I never played GW1 but that sounds like an awsome system. Like you said though it's not like that in this game. We can debate advantage all day, but itt can't be denied that you can pay cash for power in GW2. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
5/05/12 10:05:44 PM#50
Originally posted by bcbully You cannot. Because at the end of the day, you are not more powerful than anyone else. Unless a prettier outfit would make you more powerful.
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5/05/12 10:10:09 PM#51
Originally posted by heartless I had x stats, I payed cash for x+1 stats. I just bought power. W/e though dude. smdh. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
5/05/12 10:14:44 PM#52
Originally posted by bcbully I honestly don't care how you puchased your gear as long as it doesn't give you an advantage over anyone. And since it doesn't, there is not reason to whine.
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5/05/12 10:18:02 PM#53
Lol I see what you did there ;) Like I said you might not mind, but it is what it is. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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5/05/12 10:26:24 PM#54
Originally posted by bcbully Just so I have this straight, are you imagining a widespread practice where people buy gold with gems and then use this gold to purchase items off the auction house that are somehow superior to gear that they otherwise get in-game? I get that you don't like "buying gold" but I'm wondering what advantage you see this conveying to a player who does it and how this advantage is conveyed. "Loading screens" are not "instances". |
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
5/05/12 10:26:32 PM#55
Originally posted by bcbully Let me break it down for you, since you obviously have not played the game. Some of the best gear you can get is purchasable by karma. Karma is awarded for completing various tasks in the game and cannot be purchased with gold. The gear that you get from karma, cannot be traded to other players or sold to NPCs. In other words, you can buy all the gold that you want but you will still not have better gear than than someone who just played the game. I'm honestly not sure why you would have an issue with someone purchasing gold when it does not give them an advantage over you in any way. Let them buy what they want, who cares? It's not like it's going to hurt your enjoyment of the game in any way.
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5/05/12 10:29:59 PM#56
Originally posted by bcbully The reason people say they don't mind is, because even if you consider that another player got stronger by having more gold and being able to buy a better item, worst thing that happens is that it actually helps the other players also, since they have a stronger player doing DEs with them. In PvP stats get equalised so everyone is on equal footing, even if on PvE maps they are stronger. I think that's why people don't mind it. Also once you reach lvl 80 you can no longer buy more powerful gear in comparison to other lvl 80s, only different looking gear. |
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5/05/12 10:34:37 PM#57
Originally posted by AvatarBlade I actually didn't look at this at all in WvWvW but did my gear get bumped up to level 80 equivalent? Or does gear "naturally acquired" through leveling still give an advantage over a player of a much lower level boosted to 80. I could have sworn that I read that the character got boosted for WvW but not the gear, but that information may be outdated. "Loading screens" are not "instances". |
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5/05/12 10:42:01 PM#58
Originally posted by Charlizzard Hmm, you might be right, what I said was mainly based on info I've been reading and on the fact that a lvl 2 should be able to fight a lvl 30 in WvW, without being overwhelmed by the lvl 30s superior gear. What I said there was actually more a conclusion from that information, rather than actually reading it on ANet's site. So you might be right and me wrong on that thing. |
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5/05/12 10:44:21 PM#59
Originally posted by heartless 1st on topic : @ OP - I played 47 hours over the BWE, obtained 4 keys and approximately 10 chests. I used all the keys I obtained to open chests and recieved nothing special :P infact it felt like an inconvenience to stop and open them since they gave nothing worth shouting about. Though I did like transmuting myself into creatures and running around silly.
@heartless, I don't think this bcbully person cares about anyone elses knowledge and facts since even without any personal experience of the game he has made up his mind that its "Pay 2 Win" no matter what even if its completely asinine and a worthless arguement. He just wants his validation that his point does have validity because it does give a slight advantage, though meaningless, it does give some what of an advantage. Though even if we acknowledge the validity in his debate He'll still refuse to listen to any reasoning about facts of how the game truly is not P2W and does not provide any UNFAIR advantage over non cash shop users.
@anyone who cares no one inparticular :P The Key to all of this is "unfair advantage" does using cash give an unfair advantage over someone else who does not use the cash shop? Simply Put NO!!! There are games that are truly P2W such as ALLODS and a few others like Runes of Magic where you can upgrade your armor and increase your weapons damage output with money. In the case of Allods you can spend enough money to 1 vs 10 other players and they can barely hurt you = Pay 2 Win.
EVERYONE who experienced the game in BWE saw the cash shop and how no matter how much you spend in the cash shop you will NEVER GAIN... NEVER.. NOT EVER gain an unfair advantage over another player who did not use the cash shop. Arguing an uneducated ignorant debate that it does give a slight advantage is POINTLESS and a waste of everyones time. PERIOD!! -----> . <----- P E R I O D!!!
GW2 is not Pay 2 Win, it is Pay for Convenience and nothing more. Its skill based and not equipment based, I can make the same quality equipment crafting as you can purchase with your cash shop gold. It SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER!!!!
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heartless
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Joined: 1/05/04
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan |
5/05/12 10:49:06 PM#60
Originally posted by Charlizzard If you're level 10 and fighting a level 80 in WvWvW, you're going to be at a disadvantage. They will have max traits and they gear will be better than yours. I believe that the premise is that your stats get bumped to that of a level 80 but you're still missing out on the traits, the gear and the utility and elite skills. In a zerg, it probably won't matter much but in a 1 on 1, the chances of you winning will be slim unless the 80 is really horrible.
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