hm. I'm enough old, have played D&D with dices, pencil and paper.

But my Ultimate Question on Life, The Universe and Everything is:

this WOW lovers are getting payed to troll every given open beta MMO?

Or they just feel something like a mission to spread the Truth About MMO?

Yes, just wondering.

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Originally posted by Mayadeva
hm. I'm enough old, have played D&D with dices, pencil and paper.
But my Ultimate Question on Life, The Universe and Everything is:
this WOW lovers are getting payed to troll every given open beta MMO?
Or they just feel something like a mission to spread the Truth About MMO?
Yes, just wondering.

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GW2 is not an open beta.. indeed you are to old to figure out that.

What did you expect? Devs won't risk not following the wow formula anymore. Only Indie devs take a risk, oh and Sega with PSO2. I knew from watching gw2's combat it was just gonna be another lame wow clone, then I read how the quests work and its really nothing diffrent than wow, cept you go to the heart insted of the !, same shit diffrent wrapper. That and gw2 has some of the stupidest balance decisions I have ever seen in a mmo, melee attacks with cast times that forces yoru char to stop moving? casters that can cast while moving? "WTF is this shit?" is all I can say.

Originally posted by catplay

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GW2 is not an open beta.. indeed you are to old to figure out that.

Oh rly.

was not only about GW2....I find this in every OBT I play..

end of arguments?

what is this? 

i dont even....

omg guys he is right!

you know what else is a wow clone ? CALL OF DUTY!!

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Originally posted by Mayadeva

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Originally posted by catplay

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GW2 is not an open beta.. indeed you are to old to figure out that.

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Oh rly.
was not only about GW2....I find this in every OBT I play..
end of arguments?

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Again, GW2 is not open beta, if you pay you can play, which is not open at all.

Originally posted by Siveria

What did you expect? Devs won't risk not following the wow formula anymore. Only Indie devs take a risk, oh and Sega with PSO2. I knew from watching gw2's combat it was just gonna be another lame wow clone, then I read how the quests work and its really nothing diffrent than wow, cept you go to the heart insted of the !, same shit diffrent wrapper. That and gw2 has some of the stupidest balance decisions I have ever seen in a mmo, melee attacks with cast times that forces yoru char to stop moving? casters that can cast while moving? "WTF is this shit?" is all I can say.

Thats the same question i make to myself wen reading posts like yours.

Also i find funny how the OP only replys to certain posts, but she doesnt really say nothing so its ok.

Originally posted by catplay

 

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Originally posted by Mayadeva

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Originally posted by catplay

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GW2 is not an open beta.. indeed you are to old to figure out that.

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Oh rly.
was not only about GW2....I find this in every OBT I play..
end of arguments?

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Again, GW2 is not open beta, if you pay you can play, which is not open at all.

It is, and it isn't. I agree it's closed int hat only certain people can get in..but I get the feeling teh "Beta Weekend Events" really are what GW2 is using in lieu of a real open beta. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Siveria

 I knew from watching gw2's combat it was just gonna be another lame wow clone

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gw2 has some of the stupidest balance decisions I have ever seen in a mmo, melee attacks with cast times that forces yoru char to stop moving? casters that can cast while moving? "WTF is this shit?" is all I can say.

there appears to be inconsistency in your reasoning, is it a wow clone or is it different and stupid?  i'm afraid you can't claim both and appear reasonable!  

some day we will see someone say that Monopoly is a wow clone....

I'm suprised the mos let this thread go for this long. WoW clone ? LOL.....

It's open beta because people are allowed to talk about the game. Closed beta means that you are not allowed to talk about it. It doesn't matter who or how many get into the beta test.

Originally posted by Obidom

BTW you know saying Wow Elves, WoW Gnomes etc is slightly biased?

 

Elves, Gnomes, Giants, Wargs, Dragon et al all existed BEFORE Wow? they are staples races for any HIGH FANTASY settings. Even if they simply gave them other names?

 

Personally for me, after being burnt on so many 'substandard' MMO I am in no rush to get this game, especially with the 'Cash Shop' factored into it

And If ANYTHING, sylvari are an imitation of Games Workshops Wood elves (regardless of the fact that they 2 entire different types of games)

This is what happened when blizzard let everyone into the MMO scene.

Originally posted by catplay

PVE

GW2 PVE:

- dynamic events

- 5 lifeless dungeons with no epic feeling or something to move you

WoW PVE:

- zillionds of quests with a nice story or cutscenes

- loads of epic dungeons

- loads of epic raids

- scenarios (coming in MoP)

PVP

GW2 PVP:

- WwWwW = lame zerg action worst that Warhammer

- 5 man pvp instance

WoW PVP:

- battlegrounds with clear objectives

- world pvp zones like WG or TB and who knows what comes in MoP with siege weapons

- arenas

- world pvp

So more:

Sylvari = poor copy of WoW elfs, really lame made

Asura = poor try to make something fun like WoW gnomes or goblins.

All GW2 chars are generic and lifeless. All WoW chars are full of personality and damn nice made animations and everything.

So before GW2 try to challenge WoW, they should first challenge TERA, Rift, Lotro who are actually much much better that what GW2 offers. In all terms.

Oh, yeah, GW2 have no monthly fee. Imagine if would have a monthly fee, how many of you would play it??? Think about it... And because of that, Arenanet knows if you try the game you may not like it, thats the reason of prepurchasing, thats the reason why they did not offer free trial for GW1 (only after a few years) and probable they will not offer for GW2.

And for peoples who start with "I never played WoW" my advice is that you should because, I never realized how good is WoW until i played some other games. Not playing WoW do not make your opinion stronger, its actually a sign of no experience.

Another good example of a guy who have played WoW all his life. If gw2 is a copy or something thats pretty much warhammer online, and is a B2P MMO, it wont have the amount and quality of content and features that you can find in a p2p MMO, so you cant compare GW2 with a P2P game. 

Originally posted by Channce

This is what happened when blizzard let everyone into the MMO scene.

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Even I laughed when I read the OP.

im tired of defending MMO's I defended Aion and Guild Wars 1 to much  I think the best way for Developers to make a better game is to tell them what is all wrong with the game.