Originally posted by kishe

Originally posted by Boraell

Nerd rage is so funny! We have one article with very few details yet everyone breaks out the cross and nails.

 

It may be crap, then again it may be great, until we have more details or see some gameplay we wont know this. Funniest bit is how all the sheep jump on the 'it will destroy the IP' bandwagon...did WoW make WC1 and WC2 crap games?

 

It could be best thing since sliced bread but if it plays NOTHING like Morrowind, oblivion and skyrim...then hundreds of thousands of Elder Scrolls fans are going to be pissed.

And as one of those fans I will be pissed too, difference is im not so 'me-centric' that im going to spit my dummy out now and start feeding all the wild assumptions, such as 'its not realtime combat so it must be turn based!!!!'. Then again, why was I expecting rational thought over wild hysteria on the internet....:P

Originally posted by Boraell

Nerd rage is so funny! We have one article with very few details yet everyone breaks out the cross and nails.

 

It may be crap, then again it may be great, until we have more details or see some gameplay we wont know this. Funniest bit is how all the sheep jump on the 'it will destroy the IP' bandwagon...did WoW make WC1 and WC2 crap games?

Considering the info that has already been leaked, I know a lot of people will be disappointed. From that alone, the game doesn't look or sound like an Elder Scrolls game. I wouldn't be surprised if they had preset classes too.

Also, RTS to MMORPG is completely different than RPG to MMORPG. A more accurate description, though not entirely the same, would be KOTOR to SWTOR.

I'm not going to say whether or not this game will be bad, it's much to early for that. But you can't blame people for being critical for the way the game is looking already.

Originally posted by Kelthius

Originally posted by Boraell

Nerd rage is so funny! We have one article with very few details yet everyone breaks out the cross and nails.

 

It may be crap, then again it may be great, until we have more details or see some gameplay we wont know this. Funniest bit is how all the sheep jump on the 'it will destroy the IP' bandwagon...did WoW make WC1 and WC2 crap games?

Considering the info that has already been leaked, I know a lot of people will be disappointed. From that alone, the game doesn't look or sound like an Elder Scrolls game. I wouldn't be surprised if they had preset classes too.

Also, RTS to MMORPG is completely different than RPG to MMORPG. A more accurate description, though not entirely the same, would be KOTOR to SWTOR.

I'm not going to say whether or not this game will be bad, it's much to early for that. But you can't blame people for being critical for the way the game is looking already.

If only critical was as far as its going.....:]

I just read the review from the listing the OP provided.

How disappointing!! After reading the article, I couldn't  help but wonder why such an article would even be published! No hype, no allowing future players with great expectations of things to come.  Just kind of a "HO HUM" this is what we're going to offer-similar to Star Wars. And I thought, why would I want to play such a mediocore game?

Originally posted by Vyeth

Much like the Warcraft series (which were originally RTS games) being made into an MMO..

Warcraft:  RTS --> RPG.   Elder Scrolls: RPG --> RPG.  Elder Scrolls is already an RPG.  Making it multiplayer doesnt mean they should change the gameplay so substaintially.  For example, when Warcraft I was released, it was not an online game.  Now the main feature of Warcraft is arguably multiplayer play.  But did the core game experience change?  No.

And this time all it took was 1 day for me to not like this MMO.

---

Originally posted by Boraell

---

Originally posted by Kelthius

---

Originally posted by Boraell

Nerd rage is so funny! We have one article with very few details yet everyone breaks out the cross and nails.
 
It may be crap, then again it may be great, until we have more details or see some gameplay we wont know this. Funniest bit is how all the sheep jump on the 'it will destroy the IP' bandwagon...did WoW make WC1 and WC2 crap games?

---

Considering the info that has already been leaked, I know a lot of people will be disappointed. From that alone, the game doesn't look or sound like an Elder Scrolls game. I wouldn't be surprised if they had preset classes too.
Also, RTS to MMORPG is completely different than RPG to MMORPG. A more accurate description, though not entirely the same, would be KOTOR to SWTOR.
I'm not going to say whether or not this game will be bad, it's much to early for that. But you can't blame people for being critical for the way the game is looking already.

---

If only critical was as far as its going.....:]
 

---

---

Originally posted by PyrateLV

    They wont because, and I quote from ZeniMax, - "Its Too Hard!"

---

So it's nothing like Elder Scrolls it's just another tired and boring experience with a different name.  Crossing this one off the list.

It's May 4th, not April 1st.

Right?

....RIGHT?

Dear God.

Originally posted by dstar.

So it's nothing like Elder Scrolls it's just another tired and boring experience with a different name.  Crossing this one off the list.

I'm going to give them a chance, even if it's just for the name. However, class based, lack of housing, pets, and real time combat? Looks grim.

Whoever thought this was a good idea?

Like, seriously, who thought removing everything that makes an elder scrolls game was a good idea?

Can we now start the Elder Scrolls Betrayal Campaign 2012?

Does the online community need to choke a bitch...again?

Could give a pass over the use of race locked factions, lack of player housing, and some of the other minor points. But adding Classes, Hotbars, and removing FPS/TPS style combat ruins it for me. That and they are falling prey to the everyone is the Nevarine reborn or Dragonborn type story that is so rampant in these MMOs.

I also haven't seen Bethesda name attached only Zenimax, which tells me its being made by a completely different team. Hence why even the feel of the lore and styling probably will go totally SNAFU.

This is just saddening. Why does The Elder Scrolls need to be an MMO in the first place? A new Elder Scrolls game with a focus on small-scale multiplayer would've been just fine in 99% of everyone who's ever loved the series' eyes. Imagine "Skyrim" with 4-8 of your friends. Holy crap.

Instead we get a generic WoW-clone that strips the Elder Scrolls of practically everything that it makes it what it is; an MMO that's going to have to compete with it's father WoW and it's new expansion, as well as countless other generic WoW-like MMO's that are already out and coming out in the near-and-far future. And then of course there's other non-WoW-like MMO's such as GW2, The Secret World, TERA, etc. that are just going to make the genericness of this game stand out all the more.

Here's hoping there's something that isn't being revealed that really changes things for the better.

Originally posted by TGSOL

This is just saddening. Why does The Elder Scrolls need to be an MMO in the first place? A new Elder Scrolls game with a focus on small-scale multiplayer would've been just fine in 99% of everyone who's ever loved the series' eyes. Imagine "Skyrim" with 4-8 of your friends. Holy crap.

 

Instead we get a generic WoW-clone that strips the Elder Scrolls of practically everything that it makes it what it is; an MMO that's going to have to compete with it's father WoW and it's new expansion, as well as countless other generic WoW-like MMO's that are already out and coming out in the near-and-far future. And then of course there's other non-WoW-like MMO's such as GW2, The Secret World, TERA, etc. that are just going to make the genericness of this game stand out all the more.

 

Here's hoping there's something that isn't being revealed that really changes things for the better.

money

Originally posted by Serpentar

Could give a pass over the use of race locked factions, lack of player housing, and some of the other minor points. But adding Classes, Hotbars, and removing FPS/TPS style combat ruins it for me. That and they are falling prey to the everyone is the Nevarine reborn or Dragonborn type story that is so rampant in these MMOs.

I also haven't seen Bethesda name attached only Zenimax, which tells me its being made by a completely different team. Hence why even the feel of the lore and styling probably will go totally SNAFU.

 You can watch the teaser trailer.

You'll see bethesda nice and big, and just as prominent as the zenimax online logo.  Bethesda is the publisher for all zenimax games.

Originally posted by Sora2810

Yesterday; I was thrilled. Today; I am ashamed. 

Zeni: "We have the opportunity to enter the MMO market. Our sandbox style gameplay could easily interest MMO players for years to come. Timeless story and lore at our fingertips. The following of an entire gamerbase. Let us brainstorm."

/developerRaisesHand "Let's make it a third-person, hotbar clicking, ability spamming action combat. Let's also not use any sandbox features such as player housing or anything. Oh--and traditional dungeons and raids! No one like an Elder scrolls style MMO, look at Mortal online. It obviously failed! We shouldn't do anything like that! Players love WoW; so lets follow suit!"

I really wish I knew the team who decided this was the best call for ESO. Faith and hope that the MMO industry will change back to innovation has severly dwindled for me. I'm on the brink of taking a break. I don't even have cautious optimism for TSW. I just know it'll suck; but hey, what mmo in 2012 doesn't. =\

It's not the best call. This is a decisions of money, it's the cheapest call.  

They have the most expensive piece, the Elder Scroll IP, that alone will get them to make their money back.  AT least that's what they are hoping 

Originally posted by ABRaquel

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I doubt the information in this article is true.

Elders has always been classles and argueably is a main pillar of what the series is. I doubt they would go against that

Unfortunately it's true, several other gaming sites have already posted parts of Game Informer spread. All that the OP posted is there.

 No sir, it's a rumor.  Those other sites are all basing their articles off the same "leak", not verified information.

Keep something in mind.  The cover story is in the GI issue that is basically a month away, and bethesda is releasing info exclusively to GI.  GI is doing an entire month long reveal on thier website, releasing litle bits of info each week up to the june issue going on newstands. 

If it's a publicity stunt, you woudln't verify or deny anything.  The enite point of it is to get people discussing it.  What better way to get people talking about the game, and dying to find out "official" information, then for there to be a leak that the best selling single player, sandbox RPG is going to finally become MMO, and it'll be a wow clone (The entire leak is geared towards that one premise, why would they mention wow on just about page?) 

Even if it's not a publicity stunt, but someone's idea of an epic troll, it would only beneifit GI to not say anything.  It's not like the game is coming out tomorrow, it's a year away.  Any false information that goes out now will be easilly corrected over the course of the next month, and all the attention will only drive traffic on the GI website, were they've got a portal set up just for TESO.

IF it's not true, not saying anything now won't hurt anything, but will benefit GI over the coming month.

That leak guaranteed that the June issue of GI, if it wouldn't have been already, will be the highest selling GI issue of the year.  People are going to buy the issue just to seee if the leak is true. 

Originally posted by Uhwop

Originally posted by ABRaquel

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I doubt the information in this article is true.

Elders has always been classles and argueably is a main pillar of what the series is. I doubt they would go against that

Unfortunately it's true, several other gaming sites have already posted parts of Game Informer spread. All that the OP posted is there.

 No sir, it's a rumor.  Those other sites are all basing their articles off the same "leak", not verified information.

 

Keep something in mind.  The cover story is in the GI issue that is basically a month away, and bethesda is releasing info exclusively to GI.  GI is doing an entire month long reveal on thier website, releasing litle bits of info each week up to the june issue going on newstands. 

If it's a publicity stunt, you woudln't verify or deny anything.  The enite point of it is to get people discussing it.  What better way to get people talking about the game, and dying to find out "official" information, then for there to be a leak that the best selling single player, sandbox RPG is going to finally become MMO, and it'll be a wow clone (The entire leak is geared towards that one premise, why would they mention wow on just about page?) 

Even if it's not a publicity stunt, but someone's idea of an epic troll, it would only beneifit GI to not say anything.  It's not like the game is coming out tomorrow, it's a year away.  Any false information that goes out now will be easilly corrected over the course of the next month, and all the attention will only drive traffic on the GI website, were they've got a portal set up just for TESO.

IF it's not true, not saying anything now won't hurt anything, but will benefit GI over the coming month.

That leak guaranteed that the June issue of GI, if it wouldn't have been already, will be the highest selling GI issue of the year.  People are going to buy the issue just to seee if the leak is true. 

no one is buying a stupid magazine to see if its true. They will just wait and read it from some site.

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I doubt the information in this article is true.

Elders has always been classles and argueably is a main pillar of what the series is. I doubt they would go against that

Wait, are you actually saying you believe they are going to make the MMO classless like the single player game...lol, boy you are in for a butt hurt.

Asherons Call was the last MMORPG to go classless and it wasnt really classless.

Just allowed you to mix and match anything and everything with a limited amount of points to spend on your choices. So you could wield a sword and still cast spells but you couldnt train everything and thus could gimp yourself. That kind of game wont be made again, too many MMO players cry fowl when they have to think and plan.

Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

I don't think that there is really enough info for me to have much of an opinion at this point.

Really? Between the article and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GThZj_Z54&feature=relmfu I'm pretty sure I have all I need to make an opinion. Its NOT an elderscrolls game and that Bethesda is allowing this atrocity to carry a TES name is shamefull. People havent been trying to make high quality multiplayer mods for the TES games for years because they want a typical themepark MMO. And yes, there is already enough information to call it a typical themepark MMO.