I must agree out of that List the only game even on my Radar is Guildwars 2...

The rest i really have no interest in or ever would need to play..Maybe if SWTOR TSW goes F2P lol i'd try them, have considered Conan though in the past, but freedom seems limited...

That is one sad, sad list.

yeah no archeage?  I agree with tsw, gw2 and (the ever so laggy) swtor.  but Aion?  WOW? WOW? REALLY? WOW?  replace Aion with archeage and wow with...anything

Originally posted by Vercinorix

Originally posted by Morfeus641

Decent list, though I wouldn't put Aion on it as a matter of personal taste. 

My issue is the author's perception of SWTOR vs. GW2. Both games look fantastic, but I'm going to have to go on record as saying that GW2 has way more hype to live up to than SWTOR. At the end of the day, SWTOR is a solid step forward in MMORPG gaming, but also a cautious one. BioWare rightly approached the game's design by keeping (and polishing) all traditional MMORPG elements while addiing a single new one---the full voiceovers. It's a smart move.

On the other hand, GW2 is promising some amazing things. Too good to be true? Possibly. Overhyped? Most definitely. I hope they deliver, but I'll believe it when I experience it.

 

I thoroughly disagree with the statement that SWTOR has less hype to live up to than GW2. SWTOR has to live up to people's expectations based on 35 years of history with one of the world's top 2 sci-fi IPs EVER. That is going to be seriously hard to do, even harder for a company with zero prior MMO experience. Star Wars Galaxies failed precisely because it didn't live up to those expectations. People wanted to be Boba Fett, not a bantha herder. It took a special kind of person to think that any Star Wars product would go anywhere without space combat too.

Star Wars is one of those IPs that, if done right, could easily break 100 million sales. Bioware/EA might actually be able to hit that with the product that they have now. But then what? If Bioware has basically copied the WoW endgame model, this will be a disaster for the industry because the WoW progression raiding / instanced pvp model is toxic.

We do not need another WoW clone with a different skin over the same tired horse endgame mechanics. This is what happened to Rift. Lots of people at the start, ghost town servers 2 months in, because the endgame = WoW.

The excitement being generated by GW2 is from concrete examples from the developers of why they are not going to be WoW, of innovation.

In all honesty, both games could be big winners, because they are going after different audiences. Gw2 is aimed mostly at the existing market of unhappy MMO gamers. SWTOR is trying to pull another WoW and looking to draw in a LOT of new people into the market.

Who has the bigger shoes to fill? Bioware, hands down.

 

innovative?  there is no innovation in this genre any more, its all about whether you story, challenge, or a new style of combat, same game

Originally posted by katzenkrimis

 

How old are you guys. Six? These games are garbage. All of them.  The only game that deserves to be mentioned here is Lord of the Rings.  It makes the rest of these stupid games look like Walmart bin material.  Buck ninety-nine.

Age of Conan should get an honourable mention. Because it's a good game. But still needs work.

Some of you calling for ArcheAge to make the list?  The only list that game should make is the black list.  Straight up dumpster material.

And to those of you who think Aion shouldn't be on here??  Aion definitely deserves to be on there because this list sucks so bad.  At least Aion has some polish. 

Star Wars is a disaster. Eve is a joke. Secret World is going to bomb because it's poorly made. Guild Wars 2 has all kinds of problems. Ridiculously poor combat and animations. Not to mention the fact that the game is TOO DAMN EASY because it's made for stupidville.  Consoles.

Nobody plays Rift because it just plain sucks.

Most of these games, including World of Warcraft, are for small children with undeveloped minds. Purple bubble baths and hilltop jamborees. Where it sounds like most of you belong.

Stop peering into your computer monitors and go run around the block.  Then go enter an Ironman triathlon.  And finish it.

 

Bloody Hobbits

Originally posted by katzenkrimis

 

How old are you guys. Six? These games are garbage. All of them.  The only game that deserves to be mentioned here is Lord of the Rings.  It makes the rest of these stupid games look like Walmart bin material.  Buck ninety-nine.

Age of Conan should get an honourable mention. Because it's a good game. But still needs work.

Some of you calling for ArcheAge to make the list?  The only list that game should make is the black list.  Straight up dumpster material.

And to those of you who think Aion shouldn't be on here??  Aion definitely deserves to be on there because this list sucks so bad.  At least Aion has some polish. 

Star Wars is a disaster. Eve is a joke. Secret World is going to bomb because it's poorly made. Guild Wars 2 has all kinds of problems. Ridiculously poor combat and animations. Not to mention the fact that the game is TOO DAMN EASY because it's made for stupidville.  Consoles.

Nobody plays Rift because it just plain sucks.

Most of these games, including World of Warcraft, are for small children with undeveloped minds. Purple bubble baths and hilltop jamborees. Where it sounds like most of you belong.

Stop peering into your computer monitors and go run around the block.  Then go enter an Ironman triathlon.  And finish it.

Aww did you not get a cookie today.

Tera  should be on the Number 1 spot right now :)

I agree with most of the list, but my idea list would be this 

1st & 2nd - World of Warcraft / Guild Wars 2 - Back & Fourth Between the Two

3rd - Star Wars The Old Republic

4th - Tera

5th - Eve Online

6th - The Secert World

7th - Rift

8th - Lord of the Rings Online 



9th - Aion 



10th - DC Universe





The reason I have my list like this is that as WoW is still the biggest & most succesful MMO out there with 10.2 Million Subs Worldwide & declined for the first time from 12 Mill (No one  else can reach that mark ever), Guild Wars 2 has the best PvP experience since Vanilla WoW, Star Wars has amazing story based questing and was the best part of the game. Tera and its unique combat & beautiful world. But your prbly wondering why the hell is Eve ahead of Rift well one thing Eve is different and isnt a fantasy based game, it brings many cool aspects to mmos. TSW has time to prove itself and move up the list or drop thats pretty much it. Now lets get this out of the way, Rift was suppose to be the game to defeat WoW, was the prbly the most identical to WoW & Trion litterally attack  WoW itself and after 60 days that was the last you heard of Rift, Honestly in my opinion the biggest flop outta any that has MMO launched, but its gets 6th cause its atleast decent and the Rift events are pretty cool, but any chance of Rift ever making a comeback was shot down with how 1.3 River of Souls was executed and Trion merging servers and making 1-20 F2P, the game only costing 5 bucks on steam and barely seen in stores anymore showed that the game is possibly on its way to either the B2P or F2P market like the other mmos before it. The other 3 games are there for a reason and the way that MMORPG put is the best way to have it.

Also this is my own opinion, but this is also the Internet and when someone doesn't like it they will obivious rage & whine about how wrong I am. But anyway good day and MMORPG did a good job on it, but they do need to adjust some position and make it more realistic.

Originally posted by mmorpgbro

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Originally posted by mmorpgbro

Rift? Seriously?

I thought it was just another generic quest grinder, what did i miss?

And? it had a great smooth launch. Is well supported by a company and gets frequent content updates. It is one of the most successful MMOS to launch in recent years and has some great content updates lined up for year 2012.



Believe it or not but not everyone is jumping on unique and innovative bandwagon as these two factors are not guaranteed to make a game fun. Yes fun, the most important aspect of any MMO.

Fun? is that why it dropped 50% of its subs after the first 3 months?



And they already merged servers lol, if this is the second most succesful mmo in the west, the west is dead.

Originally posted by Reliique



Where is Archeage??

 

The list is for 2012.  Unlikely you'll see Archeage in the U.S. this year.

Originally posted by Pureblock

Tera  should be on the Number 1 spot right now :)

 

I quit Tera after three days.  Liked the combat but the game just got dull for me.  Good graphics.

I've played GW2 and it also has good graphics but there really isn't anything new about the game, typical MMO stuff.  It might be a winner since it requires no sub.

I'm waiting for The Secret World, got my preorder and a bunch of free items from the Facebook Secret War promo.  If anyone is interested in joining a casual group for launch, PM me for my TeamSpeak server info.

can't really say much other than I agree, I wouldn't really have added LotRO but other than that good list.

Did any of these newer posts look at the post date? The list looked decent for when it came out. I highly doubt it would be even close to the same now. Well it may be close but it wouldnt be the same. I would actually love to see where they have the list now that public gameplay has been had by all of them except TSW.

Originally posted by katzenkrimis

 

Some of you calling for ArcheAge to make the list?  The only list that game should make is the black list.  Straight up dumpster material.

 

I would like to hear what you base this on?  Is it because of the great graphics or the fact that players can build houses, plant trees, build ships and sail and fight onboard?  OR is it because it has 120 different classes?

And to MMORPG: This forum has the worst posting and editing system ever!

lol at SWTOR

by the end of the year

WOW

GW2

planetside 2

TSW

EVE

top 5

Originally posted by ShakyMo

lol at SWTOR

by the end of the year

WOW

GW2

planetside 2

TSW

EVE

 

top 5

Remove TSW from that list and you got it!

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by ShakyMo



lol at SWTOR

by the end of the year

WOW

GW2

planetside 2

TSW

EVE

top 5

Remove TSW from that list and you got it!

 

You don't believe TSW will do well?  Why is that?

And why do people think WoW is still doing so well?  They've lost over a million subscribers in recent times.

Originally posted by TE5LA

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by ShakyMo



lol at SWTOR

by the end of the year

WOW

GW2

planetside 2

TSW

EVE

top 5

Remove TSW from that list and you got it!

 

You don't believe TSW will do well?  Why is that?

And why do people think WoW is still doing so well?  They've lost over a million subscribers in recent times.

 

 

TSW is not going to do well because of Funcom. It's a simple as that. Funcom is 0 for 2 as far as MMOs go.

WoW is going to do well because it has about 10 million subscribers, which no matter which game you compare it to, is still the highest amount of paid subscribers out there.

Originally posted by TE5LA

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by ShakyMo



lol at SWTOR

by the end of the year

WOW

GW2

planetside 2

TSW

EVE

top 5

Remove TSW from that list and you got it!

 

You don't believe TSW will do well?  Why is that?

And why do people think WoW is still doing so well?  They've lost over a million subscribers in recent times.

 

 

TSW is going to be more Niche. Not a bad thing, just the most likely outcome. The games artistic stle, gameplay style, setting and genre are going to limit it's audience. Again this isn't a bad thing.