So awesome and can't wait to play it!

Link: http://store.steampowered.com/genre/RPG/

Originally posted by Mephster

So awesome and can't wait to play it!

 

Link: http://store.steampowered.com/genre/RPG/

Too bad the game is too childish looking for me. I'd love to get into it :(

Originally posted by Axxar
I enjoyed the first Torchlight, but with Diablo 3 coming out I don't think so. But I hope Torchligt 2 does well.

     Same. I wish it the best though. Great studio. Liked the first one although it bored me a little bit.

People still use steam?

I will buy this over D3.

Originally posted by Axxar
I enjoyed the first Torchlight, but with Diablo 3 coming out I don't think so. But I hope Torchligt 2 does well.

this. was a smart move by them putting this on steam before d3 come out though.

Originally posted by adam_nox

People still use steam?

yup over 5 million player playing game by day and growing.

Originally posted by Eir_S

I will buy this over D3.

     Strange I had pegged you for buying D3. I suppose its because I've seen you around and we tend to agree on most things. D3 definately appeals to me more but I wish you the best of fun times in T2.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Mephster

So awesome and can't wait to play it!

 

Link: http://store.steampowered.com/genre/RPG/

Too bad the game is too childish looking for me. I'd love to get into it :(

 Are you ever positive?

I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to D3. Torchlight 2, however, is a definite purchase. The first Torchlight was great - though rather simple. The second sounds like an incredible improvement over the first in every way. And for only $20? Oh hell yes.

Torchlight 2 all the way for me.  D3, at best, is a bargain bin buy for me... too let down by it.  (which is sad since i was in the same long anticipating wait like every other D1&2 player)

For $20, why woulnt people buy it

Originally posted by Nightshade55

Originally posted by Eir_S

I will buy this over D3.

     Strange I had pegged you for buying D3. I suppose its because I've seen you around and we tend to agree on most things. D3 definately appeals to me more but I wish you the best of fun times in T2.

I doubt I'd have anything against D3 as a game, but I had a lot of fun with Torchlight 2 in the short time I played it - which brings me to my other reason, it's cheap.  I don't play dungeon crawlers for more than a few weeks usually, so I don't want to spend too much.  The multiplayer aspect of both games is a good thing, however.  I might get D3 when it comes down in price.

Originally posted by adam_nox

People still use steam?

Millions.

Originally posted by Giddian

For $20, why woulnt people buy it

If you just don't like the game, you may as well be buring a $20 bill when you buy it.  Hell, there are 'AAA' games out there that I wouldn't play, even if they were free because I just don't like 'em.  Can't expect people to support something they have no interest in.

BTW, waiting on Torchlight 2 as well.  Hope it releases sooner rather than later.  At some point this summer, the window on playing any new games will be closed for me for quite a while.  I'd love to get a few weeks of dungeon crawling in before that happens.

Originally posted by TGSOL

I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to D3. Torchlight 2, however, is a definite purchase. The first Torchlight was great - though rather simple. The second sounds like an incredible improvement over the first in every way. And for only $20? Oh hell yes.

     D3 to me, is just on a whole other level than Torchlight could ever aspire to achieve. The graphical style, the abilities themselves, which are generally uninspired and lackluster in the torchlight series, the enemies, the dungeons, all of it. Pretty much in every aspect I prefer D3. Now I don't make this comment to convince you but rather to share a laugh in how different experiences can be.

     I never thought I'd see the day where anyone would purchase T2 over D3, maybe both sure, but Torchlight over Diablo? That sentiment is almost alien to me.

     Which I'm sure a similar feeling has braced others where they couldn't imagine my point of view.

     If I could inspire a curious debate on what is appealing about T2 I would. It would be an honest debate, I'm legitimantly curious and my opinions are not set in stone. So someone could potentially get the prize of swaying my opinion if they came prepared. However I know that, for the most part, having a true debate on forums is borderline impossible. I've only seen it a few times in all my years of gaming.

     Which is sad, because I am really curious to understand other viewpoints. Usually though people are quick to tell me why I'm wrong but not able to admit any of my points are anything above mindless drool.

     So if there is anyone out there interested in true debate. I am all ears as to any possible draw of T2 over D3. Please keep in mind that one of the first points I will bring up is regarding natural progression. I do not view the loss of skill tree's as a con because it was a natural progression of what the community wanted.

     At first they had a skill tree, but one of the largest complaints about D2 was being locked into a skill tree forever. So they added a respec option at the towns in D3. Well the community quickly pointed out that skill tree's were largely useless then sense all skills were theoretically available anyways. You just had to go through the rather large hassle of respending all of your points to change one skill.

     So they took out skill tree's but forced players to return to town to change skills. Basically what they were doing anyways with the skill tree system. That wasn't fun though. Players were trecking back and forth all the time and more time was spent in transit back to towns to change a skill then in combat or actual gameplay. Thus you have the system we have now.

     This system was a natural progression based on logic and player wants. T2 is not as advanced in this area and basically just hides an archaic system. People do not want to be locked into skill trees. If you provide a respec then all your doing is adding an unnecessary illusion of choice. You can respec, so you basically; have access to all skills anyways. You just have to go through a huge hassle to spec into them every time.

     Well, I guess I've thrown the first bone. If anyone can respond with a degree of objectivity (we are all biased in some way) then I'd be happy to debate.

Originally posted by adam_nox

People still use steam?

Yeah only a few people here and there. 

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Only 50 millionish accounts too.  Like I said only a few people still bother with it.

Anyways....I have not bought it yet.  I am waiting till it has a release date other than summer 2012. 

Originally posted by Cavod

Torchlight 2 all the way for me.  D3, at best, is a bargain bin buy for me... too let down by it.  (which is sad since i was in the same long anticipating wait like every other D1&2 player)

     Feel free to participate in my debate invitation. I almost gaurantee that I can explain each one of D3's systems that you consider a "let down". I can explain how they are better than the older systems and why people wanted each of the systems in place with article evidence of community feedback.