...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

I'd like to believe it was a Hoax, seems like they perposely said everything bad about the genre in one sentence. Could be a really slick PR stunt from Bethesda, but the way the market is headed I'm pretty sure it's real.

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

Except it's not Bethesda.  Bethesda's parent company is using the IP rights and having another one of its studios build the MMORPG.

Honestly, if they've been working on this game long enought to consider a 2013 launch, it is very possible they're following the tried-and-trueish route.

Sorry.

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

I'd like to believe it was a Hoax, seems like they perposely said everything bad about the genre in one sentence. Could be a really slick PR stunt from Bethesda, but the way the market is headed I'm pretty sure it's real.

The article indicates that this is a studio seperate from the ones that make the single player games, the only input is the lead designer, pops in and approves the lore.  

I still think Bethesda would never aloud this to happen that could destroy them like with bioware.

Unless offocrse they still make new superb Skyrim solo rpg follow ups then i dont care at all:)

It's real, of course it's going to stick somewhat closely to traditional theme park conventions and borrow mostly from the lore of ES than anything else.

People aren't going to throw 100M or more at a new MMO title and not stick too closely to convention, could result in economic suicide.

Say what you want about SWTOR, at the end of the day it will cover its costs and return a decent profit, and in no way can you call it the death of Bioware.

I think DA2 and MA3 did more damage to the Bioware brand than SWTOR. (though it certainly didn't help either)

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

Bigger names have done dumber things.  And it's only been the last couple of years where the gaming industry has started to put some distance between itself and "the way it's always been done".  Likely, they started development before that.  Still, it's not a valid excuse for a developer of that caliber to take the well-worn road rather than forging their own path.  It's just safe and lazy.

Well, maybe they will shock us all yet.  One article isn't enough to write the sucker off.

EDIT: Administrators, fix that quote code!

Originally posted by Classicstar

I still think Bethesda SHOULD never HAVE ALLOWED this to happen. THIS could destroy them like(  IT DID ) with bioware.

Unless OFCOURSE they  make A  new superb Skyrim solo rpg follow up then i WONT care at all:)

I try to not be a grammer nazi but damn...fixed

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think...

Yes.  When it comes to the mmorpg genre, it doesn't matter how sensible, sane, or successful a studio has been.  All common sense, logic, reason, and especially creativity and original thought is completely thrown out the window.

Instead of reigning in their expectations and designing a smaller and creative MMO that doesn't break the bank, they all instead chase after the delusional $$$12millionwowsubs$$$ and aim to be the best and largest mmorpg ever.

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Originally posted by greyed-out

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Originally posted by Classicstar
...i dont believe this latest article at all.
Do you realy think...

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Yes.  When it comes to the mmorpg genre, it doesn't matter how sensible, sane, or successful a studio has been.  All common sense, logic, reason, and especially creativity and original thought is completely thrown out the window.
Instead of reigning in their expectations and designing a smaller and creative MMO that doesn't break the bank, they all instead chase after the delusional $$$12millionwowsubs$$$ and aim to be the best and largest mmorpg ever.

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Maybe, mabe i realy hope not thats the case would be realy sad seeing one of best game series ever ruined by dumb down craptastic mmo.

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

I'd like to believe it was a Hoax, seems like they perposely said everything bad about the genre in one sentence. Could be a really slick PR stunt from Bethesda, but the way the market is headed I'm pretty sure it's real.

 Exactly what I think!

Think about it.

If you put your finger on the pulse of the MMO community, the rythem that would beat back would sound like WoW clone.  How perfect would it be for them to leak an article that wont release for another month, and actually tell you that the game will be a wow clone. 

The most geniously devious troll EVAR!!!1

It's just to perfect to be anything but a joke!!!

Think about it.

The guy in charge of the game comes from what is considered the best pvp mmo ever.  It's official that it'll have 3 faction pvp, but never once does the article ever mention DAoC.  It instead makes it a point to mention that they're taking every feature of WoW, the ones that recieve the most negative attention, and using them to make the game.  It really stood out to me that the game has a pretty significant connnectiion to DAoC, but repeatedly talks about WoW.

Mostly though, why would you tell the world that you're making the online ES game that your fans have always wanted, only to have an article published a month later that goes to great lengths to explain to people that it's not going play anything like any ES game. 

And now, think about this.

How many people are going to go out and buy the june issue of Game Informer?  Or should I say, how many MORE people are going to buy a copy now.  GI isn't just doing a cover story, bethesda is releasing information exclusively to GI about TESO.

My spider sense is through the roof.  It has to be a joke.  I REALLY hope it's a joke.  It's just to perfect!

I don't know anything but if they wanted to do it right would be a EQ/AC clone not DAoC/WOW clone. Also, they need to rename it NIm online or something not Elder Scrolls. Elder Scrolls is the RPG series name not the name of the world.

I hope it's a joke. It would be a REALLY good one if it was!

Bethesda publishes (not develops) stinkers from time to time, and they did trust Obsidian with their Fallout NV, it turned out pretty good, but it's still a risky move. 

Originally posted by Kyleran

It's real, of course it's going to stick somewhat closely to traditional theme park conventions and borrow mostly from the lore of ES than anything else.

People aren't going to throw 100M or more at a new MMO title and not stick too closely to convention, could result in economic suicide.

Say what you want about SWTOR, at the end of the day it will cover its costs and return a decent profit, and in no way can you call it the death of Bioware.

I think DA2 and MA3 did more damage to the Bioware brand than SWTOR. (though it certainly didn't help either)

 

swtor cost 200-300 million. no one knows how many subs they have currently but it is for sure less that 1.7million. unless they sold 4-6 million boxes or something i dont think think they will break even for a while. they might even never break even. EA stock is failing for no reason...

I would have faith in Bethesda Softworks, the developer that brought us our beloved Elder Scrolls games to deliver a great MMORPG.

...Unfortunately, they are not developing this game.  This game is made by some upstart studio headed up by a guy that worked on DAoC.

Skyrim made the franchise seem to be hugely popular but that is only because the game was released on multiple platforms.

When it comes down to PC sales and PC fan base, there is nothing "huge" going on there...

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Originally posted by Classicstar

...i dont believe this latest article at all.

Do you realy think Bethesda gonne screw up this IP while they sold 12million copys of Skyrim the game that got scores far over 9 all over world and Game of the YEAR award, i very doub that.

I'd like to believe it was a Hoax, seems like they perposely said everything bad about the genre in one sentence. Could be a really slick PR stunt from Bethesda, but the way the market is headed I'm pretty sure it's real.

when I first read copy and pasted text from the article I was positive someone was just trolling. I actually laughed out loud.

Then I found out they were serious.

well I am not playing that is for sure, and not as a poltical statement but rather I think I would rather just play Darkfall instead, if I play at all but to be honest my gaming days have been coming to an end for awhile now