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  Rusque

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5/03/12 3:31:05 PM#201

Few issues I see them facing.


1. Bugs. TES games tend to have tons of bugs, but we put up with them because we get so much single player goodness.  In an MMO, it just won't fly, hell people raise hell if their ability is 2% less effective than someone elses.


2. Combat in Elder Scrolls game. I can't remember the last time someone said, "man the combat is so good!" It's pretty bad. It's hack'n'slash with a pause screen to switch skills. Ugh. So far down the food chain these days it's not even funny. People love these games for open-ended questing and lore.


3. Competition. Very few companies make sweeping single player epics these days. So they're near the top (if not the top to some) of the pile. TITAN might be announced any time, and we know that blizzard has the experience, resources, knowledge, fanbase, and polish to bring the next great MMO to life. Who knows the scope they will reach, but I'm betting it'll be an amalgamation of every good idea over the last decade (kinda like WoW was).


  jtcgs

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5/03/12 3:31:10 PM#202
Originally posted by Vannor

Just looks like a clever way of taking the blame away from bethesda is they mess up to me.. unlike whats happened/happening to Bioware.

Sure if you ignore the fact that Bethesda revoked the rights to make Fallout Online away from the company make it to make sure they didnt wreck the series...even taking them to court to do it...and then nixing the game.

Yeah, be sure to forget about that.

Bethesda had no choice, the parent company gave the rights to another part of the company, Bethesda cant do a thing about it.

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  lifesbrink

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5/03/12 3:33:23 PM#203

Like many, I am wary on this game, so like many who have said it, I am adding my voice in saying this could fail badly.

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  FuuManChew35

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5/03/12 3:34:32 PM#204

If they make ESO like skyrim where they throw you out in the world with basically nothing, but still have a storyline to follow. Make it an openw orld like skyrim. make it choose your own adventure type of game. They can make it a beautiful game since it's not gonna be out in the next couple years. No themepark, they will need to stay away from that. I think it will work out.


  Kelthius

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5/03/12 3:35:04 PM#205



Originally posted by wormywyrm
Just because a different studio is making it doesnt mean it will be bad.  I think its great news that the head of Zenimax studio is a developer from DAOC.  I think it bodes well that the only information about the game they've released so far is the 3 faction system, too.  And that Zenimax has been a studio for 5 years without making any games?  Hell they've probably been working on this game.  We may really see it in 2013.


I agree, it does seem like good new. Some key points in the announcement are DAOC and 3 fraction pvp, that perks my interest. I'm curious to see which way they take this thing. And hopefully I don't get too excited.

The game's director is Matt Firor. "It will be extremely rewarding finally to unveil what we have been developing the last several years," he says. "The entire team is committed to creating the best MMO ever made – and one that is worthy of The Elder Scrolls franchise." The game's July cover reveal will detail a variety of the game's possibilities: soloing, public questing, and a unique new take on player-vs-player, in which the three factions battle over sections of land or a desired position of power.


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  tollbooth

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5/03/12 3:36:08 PM#206

I in no way expect anything good to come out of this.  TES should stick to srpg.  This is going to fail and leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.


  Vortigon

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5/03/12 3:44:35 PM#207

And so the legend begins..... here day 1 :)


  daniel!!!

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5/03/12 3:46:10 PM#208

lol dosnt mean too much to me, i loved skyrim and obvlion but yeh, not too bothered, if they made a dlc for skyrim that was multiplayer, just a few people for dungeons i would probably change my mind, just they had so much potential with skyrim but didnt meet it lol not that it wasnt a brilliant game

  Rakuji

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5/03/12 3:49:33 PM#209

What a joke..MMO's have been trash since the release of WoW and it's easy mode concept.


Really, I tell you why.


Because of WoW's Easy Mode concept, it has drawn more players to the table of gaming. Now as an original mmo'r I would think hey this is great more people. Unfortunatly it didn't bring the right kind of people. See a game comes down community and when your game is infested with the "New Players of this time and age" are nothing but trolls.


So I thank WoW for killing MMO's. This will will have super hype just like WAR and AOC and SWTOR. And they are all trash troll infested piles of poop.


I miss the days of real MMORPGS - UO, EQ, AC, DAOC, SWG <-- These are Real MMORPG's everything made after them is trash.


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  Galadourn

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5/03/12 3:51:09 PM#210

I'm cautiously excited; need to see first how HERO engine blends with Creation Engine atmosphere and graphics (i.e. Skyrim)

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  dadante666

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you stop laughing when hear the same joke ,but always cry for the same thing...

5/03/12 3:59:57 PM#211

hope the game will be good  or it will take an arrow to the knee.


  Thorqemada

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5/03/12 4:02:49 PM#212

Well, well, this can become the next Wow if done right in terms of success if they do not make the mentioned "Azeroth: Elder Scrolls Edition" and keep what makes their games great.

The FPS/Action like combat will be a problem for massive battles, i dont see how that will work out.

PvP is possible, the setting has many different factions, the organizations, so any kind of pvp is reasonable from zones of rvr to simple criminal actions of individuals.

They have an automtic quest making engine.

They have worlds to explore with a rich lore.

They have no fucking Hobbits and no cutesy Elves (i know they have Elves but not the sugar candy super cute Elves)!

They have crafting and economy and politics.

They have millions and millions of fans (though they have probably no online experience like blizzard had with its Battle-Net).

They have experienced people in their team (but that not allways works out as seen in Warhammer and SWTOR).

They only need to do it right and learn only one thing from Blizzard: "Its done when its done!"

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  Cembrye

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5/03/12 4:12:33 PM#213

If this is a sandbox, count me interested.  If this is YET ANOTHER level-grind, gear-based, heavily-instanced theme park, count me out as there are already too many of these.


  Leviathonlx

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5/03/12 4:19:13 PM#214



Originally posted by Rakuji



What a joke..MMO's have been trash since the release of WoW and it's easy mode concept.








Really, I tell you why.








Because of WoW's Easy Mode concept, it has drawn more players to the table of gaming. Now as an original mmo'r I would think hey this is great more people. Unfortunatly it didn't bring the right kind of people. See a game comes down community and when your game is infested with the "New Players of this time and age" are nothing but trolls.








So I thank WoW for killing MMO's. This will will have super hype just like WAR and AOC and SWTOR. And they are all trash troll infested piles of poop.








I miss the days of real MMORPGS - UO, EQ, AC, DAOC, SWG <-- These are Real MMORPG's everything made after them is trash.











 




Ok. Whatever makes you feel better.





 

  ZombieKen

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5/03/12 4:24:29 PM#215
Originally posted by Cembrye

If this is a sandbox, count me interested.  If this is YET ANOTHER level-grind, gear-based, heavily-instanced theme park, count me out as there are already too many of these.

 

I think a TES themepark is likely given the small number of financial wins by sandboxes.

 

If I were to second guess the design, I'd say it's going to be a cross between GW2 and DAOC.

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  Lawlmonster

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5/03/12 4:26:47 PM#216

I'm more frightened of this proposed MMO than I am excited. I can't imagine a studio actually transitioning a single player game into the MMO space without fucking up everything that made it special or unique. Sorry, but I'll remain skeptical until some of these clowns can prove otherwise, but reading this news prompted a prolonged groan with a headache to follow.




 




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  aionix

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Posts: 296

5/03/12 4:29:33 PM#217

A Single player game franchise transitioning into the MMO genre via the Hero Engine.

 

I will pass on another TOR hyped up piece of crap.

  tawess

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5/03/12 4:43:36 PM#218

Welcome to the next game to be over-hyped in to such a state that it will never live up to the wet dreams of the nerds who hype it, and then it fails.


  kb4blu

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5/03/12 4:47:07 PM#219

If they do manage to pull this off, then great.


However I dont see how it is going to work in a MMO.


Like others have said make it co-op and keep it sandbox.


 


  Waizer

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Posts: 125

5/03/12 4:55:55 PM#220

I've just died and gone to heaven :D


 


I really hope the game is made as good as the solo games were... and I definatly hope the pvp system is as good as or better than daoc's


3 realms/sides/factions min plz!


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