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  Draith77

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5/03/12 2:21:55 PM#261

Melee is a lot more difficult in GW2 but you do a lot more damage and it is so much more fun because of the difficulty.


Going ranged all the time is the easy way out. Yes, it needs some balancing but I never played all ranged in PvE or PvP last weekend.



 


^This  times a 1000


  Thorbrand

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5/03/12 2:23:15 PM#262
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock

My favorite part is that by switching weapons the class plays entirely differently from one moment to the next.

And then once you get weapon swapping at 7 it's like playing 2 different classes at the same time, switching back and forth constantly based on tactical need and combat situational awareness.

Can you switch weapons in TERA?

Lol I'm being terrible.. I know...

You can swap weapons in FFXIV too and it changes your job completely! That turned out so well for them! Gamechanger... That being said, I play FFXIV and enjoy it =P Unfortunately all the weapon swapping does for melee is give us a reason to not... melee...

Melee is a lot more difficult in GW2 but you do a lot more damage and it is so much more fun because of the difficulty.

Going ranged all the time is the easy way out. Yes, it needs some balancing but I never played all ranged in PvE or PvP last weekend.

I noticed it the most in WvWvW I think. Ranged standing back dropping AoEs and never getting touched, while melee were dead the minute they tried to get into the fray. Pulling out my Rifle seemed to work OK, but really as a warrior I don't wan't to use a Rifle, I want to cut people up !

Melee works great at times in WvW but you can't get away from having a range back up when in WvW but once you get through those doors melee owns and taking camps melee is the best class to survive. I know I had to do alot of dodging to stay alive in WvW but they have their rolls in WvW.

  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 7699

Logic be damned!

5/03/12 2:23:50 PM#263
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock

Melee is a lot more difficult in GW2 but you do a lot more damage and it is so much more fun because of the difficulty.

Going ranged all the time is the easy way out. Yes, it needs some balancing but I never played all ranged in PvE or PvP last weekend.

I noticed it the most in WvWvW I think. Ranged standing back dropping AoEs and never getting touched, while melee were dead the minute they tried to get into the fray. Pulling out my Rifle seemed to work OK, but really as a warrior I don't wan't to use a Rifle, I want to cut people up !

That is very true, I will agree.

However that's kind of the nature of mass open world PvP, it's been that way always.

I think once people get more time in WvW the strategies will change, more people will use siege weapons instead of just mass zerging beating on gates and melee will have a lot more tactical use in WvW.

The few times in WvW I was in a smaller skirmish I found melee to be incredibly effective, I don't think the majority of people thought about weapon switches and just tried (unsucessfully) to kite me as they are more used to longer-duration CC mechanics.

I owned a fair number of folks all up close and personal like in the smaller skirmishes.

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  Jimmydean

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5/03/12 2:28:33 PM#264
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock

Melee is a lot more difficult in GW2 but you do a lot more damage and it is so much more fun because of the difficulty.

Going ranged all the time is the easy way out. Yes, it needs some balancing but I never played all ranged in PvE or PvP last weekend.

I noticed it the most in WvWvW I think. Ranged standing back dropping AoEs and never getting touched, while melee were dead the minute they tried to get into the fray. Pulling out my Rifle seemed to work OK, but really as a warrior I don't wan't to use a Rifle, I want to cut people up !

That is very true, I will agree.

However that's kind of the nature of mass open world PvP, it's been that way always.

I think once people get more time in WvW the strategies will change, more people will use siege weapons instead of just mass zerging beating on gates and melee will have a lot more tactical use in WvW.

The few times in WvW I was in a smaller skirmish I found melee to be incredibly effective, I don't think the majority of people thought about weapon switches and just tried (unsucessfully) to kite me as they are more used to longer-duration CC mechanics.

I owned a fair number of folks all up close and personal like in the smaller skirmishes.

I think next time I'll try a Ele and just avoid the hassle all together. Maybe Anet will balance the melee before release, it's a beta after all.

  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 598

5/03/12 2:41:28 PM#265
Originally posted by Aeolron
If Tera is a grindfest then gw2 is the grind fest king. Takes forever to level up in gw2 and the same old questing events which to me is fine but don't say that Tera is a grind clearly you have no idea what grind is, having played everquest 1 since 1998 I know what grinding means. So to the people who think Tera is a grandest go play old school eq and then get back to me.

Sorry tera is far more of a grind then GW2. I see a lot of people saying this and just don't get it, you turned it into a grind by trying to do events over and over again, thats on you not the game. I followed my story quest line and did the things that happen around me, then went on to do my story quest. Not once did I feel like I was ever grinding. Even when the story quest was higher lvl then me I still jumped in and did it till I got it done and that was a blast and a true challenge. So like I said before play the game as it was ment to be played and not like other mmo's.

 

Tera is same old same old questing with FPS combat, not action combat wish people would stop saying that. Action combat is more present in GW2 then tera. God of war and similar games would be action combat and you don't need cross hairs for that, so GW2 is closer, yes you can tab target but not needed. Also rooting someone in a game is not action combat sorry far from it. Action combat is always moving GW2 wins again. The one thing I did like about teras combat was that you can build the chain combos with the space bar pretty cool but thats about it.

Like someone else said tera = Aion with FPS combat not action combat.

 

  gunmanvlad

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Joined: 1/23/07
Posts: 101

5/03/12 2:46:11 PM#266

Whoever thinks TERA's combat is anything more than mindless button (pardon "SKILL") use on cooldown needs to have his brain checked. For those who haven't played, load up a YouTube video: tank with 99999999 hp SITS and tanks, healer spams heals on cd, DPS spams DPS on cd. Rinse and repeat for 1-2-3-etc. hours.


Wanna see anyone try that in GW2 without getting a real beating.


 


As for "pff GW2 has the same *kill x that, deliver y that*", seriously? What DO you expect to do in a Fantasy MMO, or heck, in a GAME? Breed bunnies? Bake pie?


(I'm sure GW2 will have a similar quest somewhere actually, but meh)


 


So sad that this website actually approves such articles, written by someone with very limited knowledge of facts. 


  kDeviL

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Joined: 3/07/12
Posts: 237

5/03/12 2:53:13 PM#267
Originally posted by Aeolron
To rammur how is gw2 really different from any other game? It has tab targeting same old pve we are all used too, however Tera is the same as far as quests go but with BAMS and the dungeons with the true action combat Tera feels more different then your traditional mmo also Tera is NOT a grind fest, someone who actualy played tera wouldn't say that.

 

lolwut? If you try to tab target, or play GW2 the same way you do any other mmo you will die extremely fast. And how the hell is the PvE the same as anything?

I played Tera and I would deffinately say that it is as grindy as it gets, specially at 40+ ...Grinding doesn't only apply to mindlessly killing mobs when that's exactly what the quests are.

And how do world bosses and instanced dungeons make it different from any MMO?

If WoW was released today even in its' entirety it would be f2p in 3 months.
Why is it still such a big deal?

  Purgatus

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Joined: 4/22/12
Posts: 347

5/03/12 2:59:23 PM#268
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock

Melee is a lot more difficult in GW2 but you do a lot more damage and it is so much more fun because of the difficulty.

Going ranged all the time is the easy way out. Yes, it needs some balancing but I never played all ranged in PvE or PvP last weekend.

I noticed it the most in WvWvW I think. Ranged standing back dropping AoEs and never getting touched, while melee were dead the minute they tried to get into the fray. Pulling out my Rifle seemed to work OK, but really as a warrior I don't wan't to use a Rifle, I want to cut people up !

That is very true, I will agree.

However that's kind of the nature of mass open world PvP, it's been that way always.

I think once people get more time in WvW the strategies will change, more people will use siege weapons instead of just mass zerging beating on gates and melee will have a lot more tactical use in WvW.

The few times in WvW I was in a smaller skirmish I found melee to be incredibly effective, I don't think the majority of people thought about weapon switches and just tried (unsucessfully) to kite me as they are more used to longer-duration CC mechanics.

I owned a fair number of folks all up close and personal like in the smaller skirmishes.

It seems, as of the last beta, that the "up to the door" part of Keep Assault is where Melee are weak, as they can't leverage thier stregnths. Still, there are lots of other things about WvW that Melee CAN do well as you pointed out. Like waylay suppy caravans so the enemies can't re-enfoce the doors (another problem some folks had.)

  AIMonster

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Joined: 12/31/08
Posts: 2016

5/03/12 3:03:36 PM#269

I don't think it's fair to not call GW2's combat revolutionary and dismiss it as just another "tab-target" style combat system.  I really have to question if Luke understood how the combat worked in GW2 if that's the case.  It's like saying AoC's combat wasn't revolutionary back when it was released because ranged could tab target.  I can understand perfectly why you (or anyone else) might like TERA combat more, but this statement about GW2's combat just feels completely unfair.


GW2 has many differences between standard tab targetting MMOs:




  • You don't need a target to attack.  You can swing in melee, shoot projectiles, and cast spells without a target.


  • Projectiles can be blocked simply by getting in front of their path.  Not to mention the number of skills that flat out reflect them.  Players can hide behind other players and let them take the burnt of the ranged damage (unless said skill is ground targetted).


  • There is no trinity and no skill spamming outside of your autoattack.  Every skill has a decent cooldown (except autoattack) associated with it requiring you to plan your use accordingly.


  • All melee attacks do AoE conal damage similar to AoC, making positioning in melee important.


  • Aggro doesn't work based on hate, but more based on proximity.


  • You have limited uses of the dodge mechanic.  The AI can also dodge.  This functions differently that other dodge mechanics in that you can't be hit by attacks while dodging.


  • The whole weapon switching concept and skills based off weapons.


  • Limited number of skills as opposed to multiple hotbars full of them.


  • Combat feels significantly "faster" than most tab target MMOs.


  • CC is less frequent.


  • You can cast most skills while moving.



As you can see there is plenty of things that make GW2's combat revolutionary.  Dismissing it as just another tab target MMO just isn't right.

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  Nevulus

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Joined: 8/23/06
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5/03/12 3:05:29 PM#270
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Jimmydean

I guess it's a difference in combat preference. Do you prefer to play only ranged / kite everything (GW2) or do you prefer to play based on the class you choose, your actions having consequences and having to think about them first (TERA). 

Like I said, I'll play both. I hope you fanbois don't ruin GW2 with your endless praise / can never be wrong attitude. If you honestly think Melee classes are OK in GW2 atm, then you are too far gone to be of any use in shaping the game.

It's mind-numbing shlock like this that starts flame wars.

no, its people like you attacking someone over their opinion that starts flame wars.

 

Take a break, go outside and catch some fresh air man, because you are doing the GW2 community great harm by trolling other people.

We get it, you never played Tera and you never will, GW2 is your saviour. That's cool, why not tell him why you think GW2 surpasses its competition and leave it at that, without attacking/harrassing/trolling people. You will find you will receive a lot more respect this way.   :)

  felchawe

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Joined: 3/15/12
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5/03/12 3:13:23 PM#271

 

I did play both Beta I played tera CBT 2 EU and The BWE Guild Wars 2.

to make this short Tera bored me to death where guild wars 2 the beta ended without me even noticing that I spent 3 full days playing, that’s how good is GW2 Vs Tera.

Tera is sluggish and adds nothing new but the combat system, which you will eventually notice it will get boring after leveling 20+ lvls ( i did get to lvl 24 in a lancer ). other than that it’s a typical grindfest Korean MMO kill 20 trees in lvl 1 guess what you kill 20 trees in lvl 3 oh yes you will kill 20 trees again in lvl 10 and so on. Soloing an elite boss sure you can do that with the combat system but it will take you 20+ min to do so. Dungeons are poorly designed and offer nothing new so everything else in the game. pvp sure lets duel but we need to stand still so we can hit each other. you guys who are hyping or trying to do so for tera just give me one good reason to play this game other than the BAD combat system.

as of now am really looking forward to play in TSW closed coming Beta (praying that the game won't suck like Tera did)

  Purgatus

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5/03/12 3:14:09 PM#272
Originally posted by Nevulus
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Jimmydean

I guess it's a difference in combat preference. Do you prefer to play only ranged / kite everything (GW2) or do you prefer to play based on the class you choose, your actions having consequences and having to think about them first (TERA). 

Like I said, I'll play both. I hope you fanbois don't ruin GW2 with your endless praise / can never be wrong attitude. If you honestly think Melee classes are OK in GW2 atm, then you are too far gone to be of any use in shaping the game.

It's mind-numbing shlock like this that starts flame wars.

no, its people like you attacking someone over their opinion that starts flame wars.

 

Take a break, go outside and catch some fresh air man, because you are doing the GW2 community great harm by trolling other people.

We get it, you never played Tera and you never will, GW2 is your saviour. That's cool, why not tell him why you think GW2 surpasses its competition and leave it at that, without attacking/harrassing/trolling people. You will find you will receive a lot more respect this way.   :)

Do you think that the red text is honest objective feedback? Or anything other than demeaning?

I do my best to respond in the same way to folks bashing Tera with nothing but slander.

 

  felchawe

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Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 28

5/03/12 3:15:52 PM#273

between in the release did they add the end game Raids Bgs or Tera Still has no BGs or Raids ? 

  ultimateduck

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5/03/12 3:19:27 PM#274

Well that sucks balls... Diablo 3 and back to DAoC I guess.


 


 


p.s. One can not like the way something looks without it being a graphical issue.  Diablo 3 may not have the graphics of Terra, but it doesn't have that lame art style either.  I'll take dated graphics over the rediculous art of Terra any day of the week.


  Jayaris

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Posts: 340

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5/03/12 3:20:40 PM#275
Originally posted by felchawe

 

I did play both Beta I played tera CBT 2 EU and The BWE Guild Wars 2.

to make this short Tera bored me to death where guild wars 2 the beta ended without me even noticing that I spent 3 full days playing, that’s how good is GW2 Vs Tera.

Tera is sluggish and adds nothing new but the combat system, which you will eventually notice it will get boring after leveling 20+ lvls ( i did get to lvl 24 in a lancer ). other than that it’s a typical grindfest Korean MMO kill 20 trees in lvl 1 guess what you kill 20 trees in lvl 3 oh yes you will kill 20 trees again in lvl 10 and so on. Soloing an elite boss sure you can do that with the combat system but it will take you 20+ min to do so. Dungeons are poorly designed and offer nothing new so everything else in the game. pvp sure lets duel but we need to stand still so we can hit each other. you guys who are hyping or trying to do so for tera just give me one good reason to play this game other than the BAD combat system.

as of now am really looking forward to play in TSW closed coming Beta (praying that the game won't suck like Tera did)

You don't like dungeons, at level 24 you have access to a single dungeon. The pluralization feels a little unneccesary dear..

You don't like the combat, I don't like GW2's combat - Go figure people like different things.

It's Korean or Asian comments really just seem like pointless racist additions.

It does take a long time to solo a boss, as it should.

Other than the combat system and the dungeons and the 'everything else in the game' you seem to dislike.

No, wait you said everything in the game. Not sure you really left anything for me to talk about..

You played GW2 beta for 3 days, and it takes under a day to get to level 24. I don't think you really gave TERA a chance before you decided that everything in the game was so Asian and terrible.

;DDDDDD

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  Dreadstone

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Posts: 125

5/03/12 3:22:07 PM#276

Tera is still the game for me for now! Which is good since it is the only game available so far.


Thanks to the people who answered my question about GW2 targeting.  I'm not sure I completely understand how damage against an intended enemy is inflicted/calculated as far as aiming vs AoE but I have a little better idea now.


I'm loving Tera's world, combat, and in-game community so I'm happy there.  If I hear GW2 has an Open Beta anytime before release I'll give it a try to make some informed personal evaluations at that time.


  Purgatus

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Joined: 4/22/12
Posts: 347

5/03/12 3:25:21 PM#277
Originally posted by Dreadstone

Tera is still the game for me for now! Which is good since it is the only game available so far.


Thanks to the people who answered my question about GW2 targeting.  I'm not sure I completely understand how damage against an intended enemy is inflicted/calculated as far as aiming vs AoE but I have a little better idea now.


I'm loving Tera's world, combat, and in-game community so I'm happy there.  If I hear GW2 has an Open Beta anytime before release I'll give it a try to make some informed personal evaluations at that time.

I wish you many hours of fun times!

  lifesbrink

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Joined: 1/22/09
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There are 2 kinds of people in the world: those who don't like dragons and those who enjoy living.

5/03/12 3:27:32 PM#278

28 pages in less than 12 hours?

MMORPG.com, you are trolling us....hard.

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  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1843

5/03/12 3:28:03 PM#279

Its simple.


If you like the over used outdated MMORPG staples done in a piss poor way except by Asian MMO standards along with cheap gimmicky combat that is supposed to be special because you can dodge...which isnt new and even GW2 does better...than Tera is for you.


If not...ha. Tera would be good if it was free and without a sub because it brings nothing F2P games have and it sure doesnt stack up to former P2P games that are now pay trap free games.


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  felchawe

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Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 28

5/03/12 3:38:13 PM#280
Originally posted by Jayaris
Originally posted by felchawe

 

I did play both Beta I played tera CBT 2 EU and The BWE Guild Wars 2.

to make this short Tera bored me to death where guild wars 2 the beta ended without me even noticing that I spent 3 full days playing, that’s how good is GW2 Vs Tera.

Tera is sluggish and adds nothing new but the combat system, which you will eventually notice it will get boring after leveling 20+ lvls ( i did get to lvl 24 in a lancer ). other than that it’s a typical grindfest Korean MMO kill 20 trees in lvl 1 guess what you kill 20 trees in lvl 3 oh yes you will kill 20 trees again in lvl 10 and so on. Soloing an elite boss sure you can do that with the combat system but it will take you 20+ min to do so. Dungeons are poorly designed and offer nothing new so everything else in the game. pvp sure lets duel but we need to stand still so we can hit each other. you guys who are hyping or trying to do so for tera just give me one good reason to play this game other than the BAD combat system.

as of now am really looking forward to play in TSW closed coming Beta (praying that the game won't suck like Tera did)

You don't like dungeons, at level 24 you have access to a single dungeon. The pluralization feels a little unneccesary dear..

You don't like the combat, I don't like GW2's combat - Go figure people like different things.

It's Korean or Asian comments really just seem like pointless racist additions.

It does take a long time to solo a boss, as it should.

Other than the combat system and the dungeons and the 'everything else in the game' you seem to dislike.

No, wait you said everything in the game. Not sure you really left anything for me to talk about..

You played GW2 beta for 3 days, and it takes under a day to get to level 24. I don't think you really gave TERA a chance before you decided that everything in the game was so Asian and terrible.

;DDDDDD

 

 

Two Days Were Enough For me To decide if this game was worth it or not. i simply found myself got no reason to go back and play the rest CBT though i had access to them through Pre ordering. the game is flat and offer nothing new if i like Tera i should have then Go play WoW its the same game but better in everything (not counting the combat as o told u it gets way boring by time) 

 

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