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  Purgatus

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5/03/12 1:20:42 PM#221
Originally posted by JediSeer
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by JediSeer
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by JediSeer

*snip*

I can get behind the point of your post. Truely. But.....

I only played Tera in beta, as a warrior and only to level 16. I read later that its not until 20 that the game opens up. In my experience Tera is ABSOLTUTLY a grind. I have trouble understanding how rational people can keep saying its not so.

All you do is Kill X of Y quests. And they are not even killing new and different creatures. Its the same ones over and over again. After 20 when BAM's and Duneons become available, I don't know how much this is true.

But to keep calling people out for saying this is absurd.

Grinding is NOT questing and questing is NOT grinding. Just because you kill similar creatures during one quest as you did in an earlier quest does not signify the game is a grind. True grinding is killing the same monsters over and over again for hours on end because you:

a: have run out of quests to do to achieve a certain level

or

b. are grinding monsters intentionally due to the fact that the xp is better

There are/have been games that can teach you the true meaning like Lineage 2 or early Aion, etc. TERA is far from that...and yes it does open up. Dungeons and fighting BAMs is where this game shines not to mention the political system once the game has has a chance to age a bit.

I think he meant that the quests are pretty boring and that some monsters are just clones of earlier ones like the trees, is it okay to say this instead?

Yes, that would make more sense. I would even agree that the quests can seem a bit repetitive. However, to call the game a grind is not accurate.

Perhaps that is what is being implied, thank you for the input and possible clarification.

This is what I meant. Grind, as far I have ever seen it used, refers to repetition behavior. To Grind is to do somehting over and over in order to continue through the game. Grinding is not questing, but questing can bbe grinding, depending on what you are doing.

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
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GW2 socialist.

5/03/12 1:20:44 PM#222

Hmm, well the writer described Tera having things from past games that he liked, so he likes Tera.  Personally, getting away from the old style is precisely why I enjoy GW2.  Combat opinions are up in the air, but otherwise it's old (Tera) vs. new (GW2).  It all depends on what you like.


  Alot

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5/03/12 1:20:54 PM#223

Do we actually have a real definition of the word "grind".

Edit: What thell is going on with quoting recently!?

  Purgatus

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Joined: 4/22/12
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5/03/12 1:23:22 PM#224

I just posted my personal definition, I am curious to see if it matches with others.

  Jimmydean

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Joined: 9/21/04
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5/03/12 1:23:27 PM#225
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Dreadstone

Tab targeting implies locking on a target.  Are you saying you don't lock on a target?  That you will damage the target with a non-AoE attack even if you haven't locked target on them?  Tera's combat is based on where you aim your reticle, not what target you locked on before attacking.  Is this the case in GW2?

If I have an enemy if front of me and I DO NOT have him targeted, ah la Tab-Targeting, and I hit my sword attack, I will hit and damage him. Does that answer your question?

So you are facing your character but not actually aiming... I can face my character in TERA towards a mob all day long, and if I don't aim the attack I'm still going to hit thin air. Facing does not equal Aiming, and that is why TERA is a TRUE Action MMORPG and GW2 is not.

If you miss a mob in TERA it's because you are the worst FPS player in existance.

Unless the monsters get smaller and faster as you level up, which I doubt as they all seem to get bigger and slower, you have to be REALLY bad to hit nothing but thin air in TERA.

If THAT is the definition of "TRUE Action MMORPG" than I am 100% glad GW2 is not a "TRUE Action MMORPG."

Case in point - in all 18 levels on my Lancer and up to 5-6 on every other class in the TERA betas I don't think I ever died once. Not once.

In GW2 I died a lot... a lot of dirt naps, and even more times was downed and had to Rally to survive and get back up.

So if combat difficulty = true action MMO combat, GW2 > TERA by a factor of about 30.

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4701

GW2 socialist.

5/03/12 1:23:47 PM#226

Originally posted by Eir_S

Hmm, well the latter writer described Tera having things from past games that he liked, so he likes Tera.  Personally, getting away from the old style is precisely why I enjoy GW2.  Combat opinions are up in the air, but otherwise it's old (Tera) vs. new (GW2) (as Bill said).  It all depends on what you like.





 


 


  Purgatus

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Joined: 4/22/12
Posts: 347

5/03/12 1:23:57 PM#227

I just posted my personal definition. I am curious if it matches others.

  KickinPups2

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Joined: 3/29/12
Posts: 49

5/03/12 1:26:19 PM#228

 


This argument and comparison is useless..


 


Tera=Asian console/pc set up..Saying the combat is unique and different is a joke..It's a cross hairs are made for controllers compatibility other then that it's a grind/quest fest..The world is linear and blocked..The graphics area a joke. The crafting is dull and boring. The classes are dull only training abilities as you level. Feels like a console game to me no thought process in it @ all. The PvP is easy mode. Move an inch to the right you win..The so called real action combat is a joke..Your attacks can't be interrupted.. Moving is near impossible while attacking. TERA is fail and that's why so many Qqrs will flock to it just as they always do for some “new” Asian game that is launched in the west.


 


G2=New Vibrant world! Amazing fun to explore, The combat/roll system is unique in itself all classes need to learn to utilize or they won't survive. Training is unique to your class. Weapons are unique to your class. No cookie cutter B.S.. Like I stated before the world is just amazing no cut and paste here and there.Every zone feels different then the other zones. Races aren't just reskinned. Capital cities are breath taking. Dynamic events play into survival of the zone/game. Unique story lines just to your char. As for the PvP...Just amazing the keep take the constant battle between servers. I haven't enjoy PvP that good since DAOC. And I would love to hear any argument that DAOC didn't and possible could still (until G2 Release) Have the best PvP WvW RvR or whatever you want to code it as..


 


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  Purgatus

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Joined: 4/22/12
Posts: 347

5/03/12 1:28:10 PM#229
Originally posted by KickinPups2

 


This argument and comparison is useless..


 


Tera=Asian console/pc set up..Saying the combat is unique and different is a joke..It's a cross hairs are made for controllers compatibility other then that it's a grind/quest fest..The world is linear and blocked..The graphics area a joke. The crafting is dull and boring. The classes are dull only training abilities as you level. Feels like a console game to me no thought process in it @ all. The PvP is easy mode. Move an inch to the right you win..The so called real action combat is a joke..Your attacks can't be interrupted.. Moving is near impossible while attacking. TERA is fail and that's why so many Qqrs will flock to it just as they always do for some “new” Asian game that is launched in the west.


 


G2=New Vibrant world! Amazing fun to explore, The combat/roll system is unique in itself all classes need to learn to utilize or they won't survive. Training is unique to your class. Weapons are unique to your class. No cookie cutter B.S.. Like I stated before the world is just amazing no cut and paste here and there.Every zone feels different then the other zones. Races aren't just reskinned. Capital cities are breath taking. Dynamic events play into survival of the zone/game. Unique story lines just to your char. As for the PvP...Just amazing the keep take the constant battle between servers. I haven't enjoy PvP that good since DAOC. And I would love to hear any argument that DAOC didn't and possible could still (until G2 Release) Have the best PvP WvW RvR or whatever you want to code it as..


 


This comparison was a joke TERA doesn't even deserve to be put in the same class as G2..It failed in Korea it will fail here.. Let the fanbois say other wise just as they did with SWOTR..And many many More!.  

Yeah........very.......objective.........thanks........(sigh)

  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 7735

Logic be damned!

5/03/12 1:29:24 PM#230
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean

So you are facing your character but not actually aiming... I can face my character in TERA towards a mob all day long, and if I don't aim the attack I'm still going to hit thin air. Facing does not equal Aiming, and that is why TERA is a TRUE Action MMORPG and GW2 is not.

If you miss a mob in TERA it's because you are the worst FPS player in existance.

Unless the monsters get smaller and faster as you level up, which I doubt as they all seem to get bigger and slower, you have to be REALLY bad to hit nothing but thin air in TERA.

If THAT is the definition of "TRUE Action MMORPG" than I am 100% glad GW2 is not a "TRUE Action MMORPG."

Case in point - in all 18 levels on my Lancer and up to 5-6 on every other class in the TERA betas I don't think I ever died once. Not once.

In GW2 I died a lot... a lot of dirt naps, and even more times was downed and had to Rally to survive and get back up.

So if combat difficulty = true action MMO combat, GW2 > TERA by a factor of about 30.

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

I wish I had only wasted 20 minutes of my life on this gimmick only Eastern grinder MMO, but sadly I played for hours over two weekend hoping it got better.

Apparently you haven't played GW2 either though... it's ok, ignorance is bliss!

Now Playing: Destiny

  JediSeer

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Joined: 3/22/11
Posts: 21

5/03/12 1:29:48 PM#231
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by JediSeer
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by JediSeer
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by JediSeer

*snip*

I can get behind the point of your post. Truely. But.....

I only played Tera in beta, as a warrior and only to level 16. I read later that its not until 20 that the game opens up. In my experience Tera is ABSOLTUTLY a grind. I have trouble understanding how rational people can keep saying its not so.

All you do is Kill X of Y quests. And they are not even killing new and different creatures. Its the same ones over and over again. After 20 when BAM's and Duneons become available, I don't know how much this is true.

But to keep calling people out for saying this is absurd.

Grinding is NOT questing and questing is NOT grinding. Just because you kill similar creatures during one quest as you did in an earlier quest does not signify the game is a grind. True grinding is killing the same monsters over and over again for hours on end because you:

a: have run out of quests to do to achieve a certain level

or

b. are grinding monsters intentionally due to the fact that the xp is better

There are/have been games that can teach you the true meaning like Lineage 2 or early Aion, etc. TERA is far from that...and yes it does open up. Dungeons and fighting BAMs is where this game shines not to mention the political system once the game has has a chance to age a bit.

I think he meant that the quests are pretty boring and that some monsters are just clones of earlier ones like the trees, is it okay to say this instead?

Yes, that would make more sense. I would even agree that the quests can seem a bit repetitive. However, to call the game a grind is not accurate.

Perhaps that is what is being implied, thank you for the input and possible clarification.

This is what I meant. Grind, as far I have ever seen it used, refers to repetition behavior. To Grind is to do somehting over and over in order to continue through the game. Grinding is not questing, but questing can bbe grinding, depending on what you are doing.

To me repetitive questing is repetitive questing, not grinding. And, let's be honest, all MMOs have repetitive questing to some degree. Grinding however, is an entirely different monster. Kill 10 rats to complete a quest is not grinding, killing 5000 rats for hours straight to gain levels, is.

  Purgatus

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5/03/12 1:30:25 PM#232
Originally posted by Jimmydean
 

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

Do you really feel that it is ok for a game not to show you what gameplay elements make it stand out in the beginning of a game?

  Palazious

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5/03/12 1:30:27 PM#233

I think Tera has the win in graphics and the combat. 


The rest of Tera has just been done soooo much that I couldn't stomach the quest hub rinse/repeat factor that I've been sooo sick and tired of that I've about given up on MMOs altogether.  It was hard to get thru Rift's quest hub and SWToR totally made me just hate it.


GW2 brought back exploration and choices back to MMOs which IMO trumps the quest hub recipie hands down.


I just had a feeling of been there done that too much with Tera while GW2 was a new adventure around every corner.


May never the quest hub system be implimented again!


 


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  Laromuss

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5/03/12 1:31:13 PM#234
Originally posted by KickinPups2

 


This argument and comparison is useless..


 


Tera=Asian console/pc set up..Saying the combat is unique and different is a joke..It's a cross hairs are made for controllers compatibility other then that it's a grind/quest fest..The world is linear and blocked..The graphics area a joke. The crafting is dull and boring. The classes are dull only training abilities as you level. Feels like a console game to me no thought process in it @ all. The PvP is easy mode. Move an inch to the right you win..The so called real action combat is a joke..Your attacks can't be interrupted.. Moving is near impossible while attacking. TERA is fail and that's why so many Qqrs will flock to it just as they always do for some “new” Asian game that is launched in the west.


 


G2=New Vibrant world! Amazing fun to explore, The combat/roll system is unique in itself all classes need to learn to utilize or they won't survive. Training is unique to your class. Weapons are unique to your class. No cookie cutter B.S.. Like I stated before the world is just amazing no cut and paste here and there.Every zone feels different then the other zones. Races aren't just reskinned. Capital cities are breath taking. Dynamic events play into survival of the zone/game. Unique story lines just to your char. As for the PvP...Just amazing the keep take the constant battle between servers. I haven't enjoy PvP that good since DAOC. And I would love to hear any argument that DAOC didn't and possible could still (until G2 Release) Have the best PvP WvW RvR or whatever you want to code it as..


 


This comparison was a joke TERA doesn't even deserve to be put in the same class as G2..It failed in Korea it will fail here.. Let the fanbois say other wise just as they did with SWOTR..And many many More!.  

Best evidence ever, this post was just full of facts, evidence and the most unbiased statements ever.  Everyone should learn from this guy.

  Purgatus

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5/03/12 1:31:29 PM#235
Originally posted by JediSeer
 

To me repetivive questing is repetivtive questing, not grinding. And, let's be honest, all MMOs have repetitive questing to some degree. Grinding however, is an entirely different monster. Kill 10 rats to complete a quest is not grinding, killing 5000 rats for hours straight to gain levels, is.

If you have to do 500 of those quests back to back, is it really that different because you have quests?

  xposeidon

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What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

5/03/12 1:32:12 PM#236
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Dreadstone

Tab targeting implies locking on a target.  Are you saying you don't lock on a target?  That you will damage the target with a non-AoE attack even if you haven't locked target on them?  Tera's combat is based on where you aim your reticle, not what target you locked on before attacking.  Is this the case in GW2?

If I have an enemy if front of me and I DO NOT have him targeted, ah la Tab-Targeting, and I hit my sword attack, I will hit and damage him. Does that answer your question?

So you are facing your character but not actually aiming... I can face my character in TERA towards a mob all day long, and if I don't aim the attack I'm still going to hit thin air. Facing does not equal Aiming, and that is why TERA is a TRUE Action MMORPG and GW2 is not.

If you miss a mob in TERA it's because you are the worst FPS player in existance.

Unless the monsters get smaller and faster as you level up, which I doubt as they all seem to get bigger and slower, you have to be REALLY bad to hit nothing but thin air in TERA.

If THAT is the definition of "TRUE Action MMORPG" than I am 100% glad GW2 is not a "TRUE Action MMORPG."

Case in point - in all 18 levels on my Lancer and up to 5-6 on every other class in the TERA betas I don't think I ever died once. Not once.

In GW2 I died a lot... a lot of dirt naps, and even more times was downed and had to Rally to survive and get back up.

So if combat difficulty = true action MMO combat, GW2 > TERA by a factor of about 30.

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

DId you play the game? Guild Wars 2 does not start hard at level 1, I say after level 8-10 it starts rising in difficulty, please dont make false assumptions.

Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

  Jimmydean

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5/03/12 1:32:25 PM#237
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Jimmydean
 

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

Do you really feel that it is ok for a game not to show you what gameplay elements make it stand out in the beginning of a game?

It does show you, it just doesn't punish you for not knowing exactly how the game works the second you start playing it. The combat is the same through the whole game, but as you level up you get stronger, gain more abilities, and your enemies become *gasp* stronger! 

A BAM at level 20 is MUCH harder than a regular mob at level 5. The same way a BAM at level 60 is infinite times harder than a BAM at level 20.  Saying the game or combat is "simple" or "easy" after hitting level 18/60 is simply ignorant.

  Jimmydean

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5/03/12 1:36:01 PM#238
Originally posted by xposeidon
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Purgatus
Originally posted by Dreadstone

Tab targeting implies locking on a target.  Are you saying you don't lock on a target?  That you will damage the target with a non-AoE attack even if you haven't locked target on them?  Tera's combat is based on where you aim your reticle, not what target you locked on before attacking.  Is this the case in GW2?

If I have an enemy if front of me and I DO NOT have him targeted, ah la Tab-Targeting, and I hit my sword attack, I will hit and damage him. Does that answer your question?

So you are facing your character but not actually aiming... I can face my character in TERA towards a mob all day long, and if I don't aim the attack I'm still going to hit thin air. Facing does not equal Aiming, and that is why TERA is a TRUE Action MMORPG and GW2 is not.

If you miss a mob in TERA it's because you are the worst FPS player in existance.

Unless the monsters get smaller and faster as you level up, which I doubt as they all seem to get bigger and slower, you have to be REALLY bad to hit nothing but thin air in TERA.

If THAT is the definition of "TRUE Action MMORPG" than I am 100% glad GW2 is not a "TRUE Action MMORPG."

Case in point - in all 18 levels on my Lancer and up to 5-6 on every other class in the TERA betas I don't think I ever died once. Not once.

In GW2 I died a lot... a lot of dirt naps, and even more times was downed and had to Rally to survive and get back up.

So if combat difficulty = true action MMO combat, GW2 > TERA by a factor of about 30.

Oh man I'm glad you were able to explain exactly how TERA works in your entire 20 minutes of playtime! All 18 levels! The first few levels are to get you used to the new kind of combat. Throw a tab-target gamer into a fight with a BAM, and they are going to die without having any idea what happened. GW2 can start off hard because it never gets harder. Level 1 is what you see at level 80. While this is ok for some people, I prefer a game to get more challenging as my personal skill increases rather than stagnate. 

DId you play the game? Guild Wars 2 does not start hard at level 1, I say after level 8-10 it starts rising in difficulty, please dont make false assumptions.

The difficulty curve isn't nearly as steep though. [mod edit] GW2 also has an advantage knowing that MMO players are already used to its tab target (WOW) style, or face-to-aim (AOC) style because it's been done before. Aiming as it is in TERA is much more foreign to the MMORPG crowd.

  Alot

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5/03/12 1:38:42 PM#239

Why is the post actually called TERA: Guild Wars 2 vs TERA?

  Shealladh

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5/03/12 1:38:46 PM#240

Originally posted by Rollmeister

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