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  DAS1337

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5/03/12 11:46:56 AM#41

I will also be excited to see the hypocricy in the gaming community of ESO is made similiarly to the single player games.  You know, how people want to be able to steal, kill, loot, and conquer.  Then if Zenimax actually designs the game around those aspects, the same people will complain that they are getting stolen from, killed and looted, and conquered.

 

We know there are really only two ways that this game can be developed.  One, made into a themepark where most of the core elements of the game are forsaken for simplicity.  Two, developed with the core gameplay elements intact.  I personally don't feel that there is any significant advantage from doing either to be honest.  ES purists will cry foul and push the game away or it will be a slightly niche sandbox MMO.

 

The biggest aspect of the game will be it's combat.  I don't mean to say that combat makes ES games.  It doesn't, but, FPV is wildly unpopular in the MMO genre and free form combat rarely ever works.  I feel that there will be a lot of upset people no matter what the decision will be.  FPS?  Tab?  It will surely piss off some people.

  jdnewell

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5/03/12 11:46:56 AM#42
Originally posted by DarkPony

OMFG!



Already 9000 x better than GW2!!! ;-)


And Zenimax?!! <3


Really love that studio since FONV, possibly one of the best written games ever. Also one of the most immersive sprpg's I ever played.


Realy promising news.


 



 

On the off chance they dont totally F**k it up and can release it before 2020 it MIGHT be better than GW2. I love the Elder Scrolls lore and world. IF they can pull it off then it will be worth getting excited over, till then might wanna cool your jets. It would not be the 1st ( or last ) good IP that got ass raped  when someone got the bright idea of jumping on the MMO bandwagon.

  heartless

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5/03/12 11:49:57 AM#43

I love The Elder Scrolls games. I still play Skyrim often. However, I don't see how they can translate the freedom of a TES game into an MMORPG.

Will definitely keep an eye out for this.

  oubers

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5/03/12 11:50:07 AM#44

Originally posted by Segun777

Their lore is for real, but the MMO market is bloated and ripe for bubble popping. If they go for a darker, more reaslitc version of middle ages politics I could see a niche opening up with the Game of Thrones crowd, but this game is what 3 years away?! Frankly I think any new MMO's after 2013 are sucker bets.

 


the original acticle says it will be out next year.......browser game anyone??


 


 


  saker

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5/03/12 11:50:14 AM#45
We'll start learning more very shortly. High hopes we'll just have to see. At least it's only next year and not a decade away till release scheduelled so we'll see all!
  Classicstar

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5/03/12 11:50:16 AM#46


Originally posted by Puremallace

Originally posted by dontadow Redirect your anger at Final Fantasy, they started it.  Everyone else is just jumping on the cash cow.   
Yeah and we saw how well they did on FF14. That company destroyed their reputation thanks to trying to cash in. Bioware completely destroyed their reputation also.

But none of the traditional solo RPGS have sold so many copys as Skyrim and zenimax is a LONGTERM partner with Bethesda and by far one BEST compare to EA/bioware or Square/enix.

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  Vocadi

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5/03/12 11:50:58 AM#47

By the sounds of it, Im in the same boat as alot of Elder Scrolls fans. Excited but hesitant given the track record for big names producing failing MMO's. (no need to name names)


I would absolutely fall in love with a return to the elder scroll roots (think Daggerfall/Morrowind). Put choices back in the players hands specifically with player class/skill choices. My trepidation comes from the movement in recent MMORPG's towards a more simplified approach to content.


This hype will be hard to resist...


  User Deleted
5/03/12 11:51:21 AM#48
I use Skooma because it makes me work harder and longer, so I can make more money,so I can buy more Skooma. I don't see a problem with that.

 

  saker

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5/03/12 11:51:31 AM#49

Originally posted by oubers




Originally posted by Segun777



Their lore is for real, but the MMO market is bloated and ripe for bubble popping. If they go for a darker, more reaslitc version of middle ages politics I could see a niche opening up with the Game of Thrones crowd, but this game is what 3 years away?! Frankly I think any new MMO's after 2013 are sucker bets.





 




the original acticle says it will be out next year.......browser game anyone??




 




 





 


If you'd read you'd have seen it's already been in DEVELOPMENT a number of years, no it's not a browser game


  Dragonantis

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5/03/12 11:51:32 AM#50

Its to early to tell, Elder Scrolls is a big name, but we have seen big names goto MMOs and fail.

Time will tell we have to little information, but I for one am hopefull :)

  Lobotomist

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5/03/12 11:51:37 AM#51

Bethesda : Elder Scrolls Online will not be Sandbox MMO




 




 




 




 




 




Kidding :P


It was about damn time !





 

  Nebula131

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5/03/12 11:52:59 AM#52
i am... reserved optimistic..we have seen enough SP-gone-MMO go bad..i expect the worst, but hope for the best :)
  Classicstar

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5/03/12 11:53:01 AM#53


Originally posted by heartless
I love The Elder Scrolls games. I still play Skyrim often. However, I don't see how they can translate the freedom of a TES game into an MMORPG.
Will definitely keep an eye out for this.


Easy only way to go is Elder Scroll SANDBOX no other way.

If bethesda desides to going themepark then they alinate the 10s of millions Skyrim/oblivion/morrowind fans, i very doub they goone go themepark route.

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  nilden

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5/03/12 11:55:41 AM#54
While exciting news it's not exactly surprising. With no details it will be interesting to see what happens.

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  GrayGhost79

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5/03/12 11:55:42 AM#55
Originally posted by Classicstar

 


Originally posted by heartless
I love The Elder Scrolls games. I still play Skyrim often. However, I don't see how they can translate the freedom of a TES game into an MMORPG.
Will definitely keep an eye out for this.


 


Easy only way to go is Elder Scroll SANDBOX no other way.

If bethesda desides to going themepark then they alinate the 10s of millions Skyrim/oblivion/morrowind fans, i very doub they goone go themepark route.

Thats what bothers me about them saying they want to make the best MMO ever lol. Themepark is the larger audience by far, that doesn't mean there aren't a large number of sandbox fans like me but when your shooting for Top MMO us sandbox fans generally aren't the target audience :(

  Puremallace

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5/03/12 11:56:40 AM#56
Originally posted by Classicstar


Easy only way to go is Elder Scroll SANDBOX no other way.

If bethesda desides to going themepark then they alinate the 10s of millions Skyrim/oblivion/morrowind fans, i very doub they goone go themepark route.

Have you played Skyrim? Sit there and look at it and tell me how it is remotely possible to make it into a mmorpg? The housing would have to be instanced...they would need respawn timers...I guess you could turn some stuff into 5 man instances..there is no pvp at all, so you have to add it

  MNZeba

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5/03/12 11:59:47 AM#57
I'ts about time!
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5/03/12 12:02:00 PM#58
YAY!! Can't wait to hear more
  dontadow

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5/03/12 12:03:19 PM#59

Not sure how people equate a game with 1000s of quests to a sandbox game with nothing but monsters and a sword.  It's clear the game would have to be themepark, like any good MMO< with sandbox elements.  


Though how they will be able to translate the fact that, in skyrim i cna go everywhere the world levels to me to an MMO where players levels matter in terms of grouping and doing quests. 


  Unlight

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5/03/12 12:03:29 PM#60
Originally posted by Classicstar

 


Originally posted by Puremallace

Originally posted by dontadow Redirect your anger at Final Fantasy, they started it.  Everyone else is just jumping on the cash cow.   
Yeah and we saw how well they did on FF14. That company destroyed their reputation thanks to trying to cash in. Bioware completely destroyed their reputation also.

 

But none of the traditional solo RPGS have sold so many copys as Skyrim and zenimax is a LONGTERM partner with Bethesda and by far one BEST compare to EA/bioware or Square/enix.

Yeah, but here's the elephant in the room that no ones wants to talk about:  Bethesday releases buggy games. 

With a single player game, which has a huge and creative modding community to pick up the slack, a messy release is tolerable.  With MMOs, it's not -- at least not the level of the problems that Beth games are prone to seeing at release.  Not to mention, Beth hasn't been exactly quick off the blocks to make fixes to Skyrim, nor were they particularly forthcoming in even acknowledging them.  That kind of thing won't fly very far with the MMO community, where people most often end up paying a subscription fee while they wait for bug fixes to be made.

Frankly, I would have preferred another SP or better, a multiplayer game from them instead of an MMO.  They don't seem like a company well-suited to the medium.

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