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  User Deleted
5/03/12 11:34:08 AM#21

If they take their time and ensure that it is done right, similarlly to Anet's GW2, then yes, ESO will be epic beyond anything we've ever seen before. But... and its a big BUT... if they pull the same sh*t as they did with LOTRO, WAR and SWTOR, then ESO will be just another huge and epic dissapointment.

The danger with making mmorpgs based on hugely popular franchises is that game becoming heavily dependent on the franchise and not in the game itself. SWTOR is the best example.

Bethesda, if you're reading this please give Anet a call and get some tips from them. Avoid EA!

  DAS1337

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5/03/12 11:34:40 AM#22
Originally posted by Thorbrand

I don't think Elder Scrolls will make a good MMO. They need to stick with single player RPGs. I have loved Elders Scrolls for years and years I really hope with game doesn't kill the franchise like SWTOR did for Star Wars.


Please make it a good MMO!

You honestly believe SWTOR killed the Star Wars IP?  That's laughable.  There are millions of fans that have never and will never play that game.  Hell, I will go out on a limb and say that most Star Wars fans have never even heard of SWTOR.

 

These two franchises are not comparable. 

 

 

  Taiyoh

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5/03/12 11:35:08 AM#23
Oh finally. Had been hoping something like this was going to be announced.
  Kaneth

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5/03/12 11:35:36 AM#24
Originally posted by Thorbrand

I don't think Elder Scrolls will make a good MMO. They need to stick with single player RPGs. I have loved Elders Scrolls for years and years I really hope with game doesn't kill the franchise like SWTOR did for Star Wars.


Please make it a good MMO!

I agree. The only addition would have been some type of small group multiplay. I am actually fairly disappointed that Zenimax is making an Elder Scrolls mmo. What makes the games so great was the freedom you had. Wanted to be a mass murder, go ahead. Want to be the Savior of the people....go ahead. Plus everything in between.

If done right, it could be a great mmo. I just can't see how that will happen though.

  User Deleted
5/03/12 11:36:34 AM#25
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by DarkPony

OMFG!



Already 9000 x better than GW2!!! ;-)


And Zenimax?!! <3


Really love that studio since FONV, possibly one of the best written games ever. Also one of the most immersive sprpg's I ever played.


Realy promising news.


 



 

 

I have actually always wanted an Elder Scrolls MMO, but at the same time, it's such a huge task and I have worried that it would get really fouled up if it ever happened.  So while I agree with your excitement.....I can't say "already 9000x better than GW2," because I have no idea what they're going to do with this HUGE and GREAT intellectual property.  There is such a massive possibility of success and also such an overwhelmingly large potential for failure....failure on a level greater than that of SWTOR, I'm afraid.  Let's hope against all hope that that does NOT come to fruition, because this could be the greatest MMO of all time.  What could match it if it was well done?  Nothing.  Earth shattering potential both for making us dance for joy or causing us to cry rivers of bitter tears.

See you at Elder Scrolls Online launch! I mean if it is great who will not be there day 1 ?

  GeezerGaz82

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5/03/12 11:36:49 AM#26
Finally!  Big fan of the the Elder Scroll series, and will definately be trying out this one for sure.  I hoped this game would release into an MMO, now I just hope they do it properly and that the launch goes smooth.
  black_isle

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5/03/12 11:37:47 AM#27
OMG!!! SO many qoestions, so many doubts but it sure is damn exciting!!!
  Alyvian

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5/03/12 11:38:43 AM#28

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

"Just please, no "arrow to the knee" jokes."




 




 




Well, there goes my post......................




 




 





 


i wanted to make a witty joke, but then i took an arrow to the knee


  rodingo

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5/03/12 11:39:12 AM#29
Part of me says, "It's about muthascratchin time!".  The other part says, "so this is how a singleplayer franchise dies".  I just hope this doesn't end up like SWTOR, a great singleplayer RPG that was ruined by converting it into an MMO.  Time will tell though and I really do hope this will turn out great, but I would rather just keep playing the single player versions of these games.  Yeh, yeh I know, SWTOR already plays like a single player game, but you know what I mean.

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  DarkPony

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5/03/12 11:39:24 AM#30
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by DarkPony

OMFG!



Already 9000 x better than GW2!!! ;-)


And Zenimax?!! <3


Really love that studio since FONV, possibly one of the best written games ever. Also one of the most immersive sprpg's I ever played.


Realy promising news.


 



 

 

I have actually always wanted an Elder Scrolls MMO, but at the same time, it's such a huge task and I have worried that it would get really fouled up if it ever happened.  So while I agree with your excitement.....I can't say "already 9000x better than GW2," because I have no idea what they're going to do with this HUGE and GREAT intellectual property.  There is such a massive possibility of success and also such an overwhelmingly large potential for failure....failure on a level greater than that of SWTOR, I'm afraid.  Let's hope against all hope that that does NOT come to fruition, because this could be the greatest MMO of all time.  What could match it if it was well done?  Nothing.  Earth shattering potential both for making us dance for joy or causing us to cry rivers of bitter tears.

Fully agree with you. Just was a little shocked by this news :)

Just hoping they aren't trying to reinvent the themepark mold like so many other games have tried. Player freedom, immersion and a seamless (exterior) world should be top priorities. Let's hope they get to sneak in some more sandbox too.

p.s. the GW2 remark was just a friendly poke at the GW2 fans <3

 

  ABRaquel

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5/03/12 11:39:56 AM#31

I have to be honest, even though I'm excited about an Elder Scrolls MMO, I would much rather have a co-op Elder Scrolls where I and friends can just roam around, instead of having to deal with xXDrizztXx or Legollollas123 running around. 

Still it's pretty exciting news, specially the 3 Faction PvP (even though I'm a PvE carebear to the core).

  RebelScum99

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5/03/12 11:40:52 AM#32
Originally posted by joocheese

If they take their time and ensure that it is done right, similarlly to Anet's GW2, then yes, ESO will be epic beyond anything we've ever seen before. But... and its a big BUT... if they pull the same sh*t as they did with LOTRO, WAR and SWTOR, then ESO will be just another huge and epic dissapointment.

The danger with making mmorpgs based on hugely popular franchises is that game becoming heavily dependent on the franchise and not in the game itself. SWTOR is the best example.

Bethesda, if you're reading this please give Anet a call and get some tips from them. Avoid EA!

<rollseyes> 

While we're at it, maybe we can have President Obama give ArenaNet a call to get some tips on how to run the country.  Or maybe we can get the Cancer Institute to call ArenaNet to get some tips on how to cure cancer.  

Gimme a break...

  Puremallace

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5/03/12 11:43:01 AM#33

Just want to throw it out there and I will be happy to take a warning for it.




Thanks BIOWARE for fucking up Single player RPG's for good. Now everyone wants to take single player games and put them online for a sub fee. This is crap and no chance it will end well. It will screw up a legendary franchise.


 


The devs are just pissed it was so easy to bootleg torrent the Skyrim Razor version and they lost out on money. Next up Mass Effect MMO.....Modern Warfare MMO.......Bioshock MMO.....Pokemon MMO.....


 


When will the crap end?



 

  dontadow

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5/03/12 11:43:10 AM#34

Be on the lookout for another serious misuse of IP. An Elder Scroll that Bethesda has nothing to do with, obviously focusing on an aspect of the game that none of the other games ever focused on PVP or good players attacking good players.  


IF the game was going to be something other than a normal MMO or bring something new to the table it would be toted like the TOR and GW2 announcements.  GW2 said from the get go they were taking out the trinity TOR talked about stories in their press release.


If it's anything more than multiplayer Skyrim, it's already a failure.  


  DarkPony

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5/03/12 11:43:16 AM#35
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by joocheese

If they take their time and ensure that it is done right, similarlly to Anet's GW2, then yes, ESO will be epic beyond anything we've ever seen before. But... and its a big BUT... if they pull the same sh*t as they did with LOTRO, WAR and SWTOR, then ESO will be just another huge and epic dissapointment.

The danger with making mmorpgs based on hugely popular franchises is that game becoming heavily dependent on the franchise and not in the game itself. SWTOR is the best example.

Bethesda, if you're reading this please give Anet a call and get some tips from them. Avoid EA!

 

While we're at it, maybe we can have President Obama give ArenaNet a call to get some tips on how to run the country.  Or maybe we can get the Cancer Institute to call ArenaNet to get some tips on how to cure cancer.  

Gimme a break...

Yeah, please don't call Anet, Zenimax. V_V Immersion and art of GW2 are fine but you don't really need advice on that, do you?

  dontadow

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5/03/12 11:44:04 AM#36

Originally posted by Puremallace

Just want to throw it out there and I will be happy to take a warning for it.




 




Thanks BIOWARE for fucking up Single player RPG's for good. Now everyone wants to take single player games and put them online for a sub fee. This is crap and no chance it will end well. It will screw up a legendary franchise.





 


Redirect your anger at Final Fantasy, they started it.  Everyone else is just jumping on the cash cow.  


  Slampig

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5/03/12 11:45:32 AM#37
Holy Canoli!

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  GrayGhost79

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5/03/12 11:45:40 AM#38
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by joocheese

If they take their time and ensure that it is done right, similarlly to Anet's GW2, then yes, ESO will be epic beyond anything we've ever seen before. But... and its a big BUT... if they pull the same sh*t as they did with LOTRO, WAR and SWTOR, then ESO will be just another huge and epic dissapointment.

The danger with making mmorpgs based on hugely popular franchises is that game becoming heavily dependent on the franchise and not in the game itself. SWTOR is the best example.

Bethesda, if you're reading this please give Anet a call and get some tips from them. Avoid EA!

 

While we're at it, maybe we can have President Obama give ArenaNet a call to get some tips on how to run the country.  Or maybe we can get the Cancer Institute to call ArenaNet to get some tips on how to cure cancer.  

Gimme a break...

Someone says A game developer should take tips from another game developer and you equate that with curing cancer and running the country? Awsome, got to love a rational post like this lol.

  Classicstar

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5/03/12 11:46:49 AM#39

I was affraid of this my most favorite series as solo game going mmorpg. But offcorse with mind boggeling sales of Skyrim and with succes of this series for so long it was prolly inevitable that a mmo should follow.

Skyrim HUGE 13million copys sold for solo rpg thats insane, with long running series this could if handle very welll be best ever MMO in history EASY.

Internet was for while over floaded witth arrow to the knee now we get a TSUNAMI of arrow to the knee jokes hehe.

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  Puremallace

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5/03/12 11:46:50 AM#40

Originally posted by dontadow



Redirect your anger at Final Fantasy, they started it.  Everyone else is just jumping on the cash cow. 





 


Yeah and we saw how well they did on FF14. That company destroyed their reputation thanks to trying to cash in. Bioware completely destroyed their reputation also.


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