Originally posted by cesmode8

I am currently involved with TERA as it is an amazing game, and I will continue to follow GW2 (although last weeken's BWE was a disappointment).  The fact that GW2 is F2P is only a bonus, not an incentive to play.  Its the quality of the game that matters to me. 

I'm with you on the rest of your post, so no argument from me there.

Only one minor nitpick. GW2 is B2P, not F2P :).

It should have launched B2P

With model where you buy the initial boxed game (with decent chunk of game). And later pay for additional planets/quest series (like LOTRO/DDO)

Problem is. It would have worked on launch.

Now that ship has sailed.

I dont think nothing will be able to save this game.

Not even F2P at this moment.

And knowing EA, they rather kill games than make them F2P

F2P or Freemium? 

Lol no. 

This game is not made for that and besides those business model are bad for mmorpg's.

SWTOR seem like 'mmorpg' lite - more like Single player game with co-op option.

So B2P - no optional subs , whole game avabile after buying box.  New zones-packs (zone + dungeons + some  story) released as DLC's.

No cash shop or very minimalistic one (not like in F2P / Freemium games where CS is big and infuential like in Lotro , DDO or SoE games - no this does not fit into B2P).

Originally posted by Prosti

Speaking out of context, I managed to play the weekend trial. It really seemed dead, and as much as most would my opinion doesn't matter. Im sure it mattered where it counted, regardless. I would definately give this game a try had it gone F2P or even B2P.

 

Either way, it would be better to make the decision of where SWTOR is going soon. Lest the game completely falls down the drain.

 

Thing is, SWTOR always felt empty. I played from release on server with hours long queue at the start and I hardly met anyone...I think in the process of levelling I met 4-5 persons from opposite faction and a tad more of my own faction (not counting the space station hub). Granted, I was ahead of the curve but even after a month the situation didn't change much, felt like you're roaming desolate planets.

They should make the game 50% smaller (area wise) at the start and work on other things.

Oh, and not be stingy for the game engine at the start too.

Originally posted by MikeB

In this week's Star Wars: The Old Republic column we discuss whether or not SWTOR should make the switch to the free-to-play business model.

I’ve been knee-deep in the MMORPG.com community since I came on in June of 2009, but it feels like only yesterday when our community was up in arms over the notion of some Western game going free-to-play. While some of this sentiment still remains, it doesn’t take more than a cursory glance to notice that there’s been an overall attitude shift here, and this is likely due in part to the gradual trend towards free-to-play that has been going on since DDO made the extremely successful switch back in September of ’09. This apparent shift, at least to me, speaks volumes to where things are headed and it’s got me asking myself one question in particular as of late:

Should Star Wars: The Old Republic go Free-to-Play?

Read more of Michael Bitton's Star Wars: The Old Republic: Should SWTOR Go Free-to-Play?

As if there weren't enough threads for whiners and trolls we have community managers creating them now?  NICE!

Tera is gonna have people bitching in a month.

GW2 wil have people bitching a month after release.

TSW will have people bitching after release...

You see the trend?  It's all happened before... see the last 10 years on this forum...

It's worth 50 bucks. However, it's not worth a subscription fee.

Free to play would be better. But I still won't play it.

Instead of giving a way free month of gametime they should've really made it F2P after they implemented 1.2.

I'm playing since release and have five LvL 50 chars all Rakata equipped with a few first BlackHole and Campaign items. The content is laughably easy and not really interesting.

The game simply lacks on all fronts and the bugs are f'in annoying. Sound-issues, mails vanishing, quests bugging, and poor customer support really aren't worth $15/month.

The players are running away allready and the game is a huge wasteland. There's only some 1k players left on the most populated servers, which is absolutely laughable. They should've offered free server-transfers two month ago allready to solve this issue, but they're not listening to their community.

Imho, this game deserves to be dead by the end of the year.

This is a business decision, nothing more, nothing less.

If LA/EA/BW feel like they could make more money and have more players if they converted to a F2P model, they will.

The game is far too new to go fully F2P, but buy-to-play would be a convenient option as long as they maintain a "premium" subscription option for people who enjoy the "classic" payment model.

I would rather have cancer than to see all mmos go free to play.

There is a f2p trend becasue the new p2p games have been bad.

People expect a p2p game to be better than a f2p game.  P2p games need to step their game up.  If they make a good game 15 bucks isn't a problem. 

SWTOR is the first mmo I played that I said to myself  "I'm not giving them another 15 bucks. It's not worth it." It's the first game that I ever canceled. I always just let my time run out. 

Make a good game and charge me a sub imo.

Originally posted by bcbully

There is a f2p trend becasue the new p2p games have been bad.

People expect a p2p game to be better than a f2p game.  P2p games need to step their game up.  If they make a good game 15 bucks isn't a problem. 

SWTOR is the first mmo I played that I said to myself  "I'm not giving them another 15 bucks. It's not worth it." It's the first game that I ever canceled. I always just let my time run out. 

Make a good game and charge me a sub imo.

 aye this is true, p2p games have to step it up.

But lets see how people will react to Tera after 1-3 months and se how it hold and TSW. That maybe the last clue for companies to see what kind of game the masses want..

Personally i prefer a p2p model with no cash-shops, or just shops with accessorie items

Originally posted by kevjards
as well as this not being worthy of a sub..i found one of the most stupid things in this game..and i could'nt beleive it..dont know what made me try it but here goes..i,m not a star wars fanatic so here goes..i mailed an item from an imperial to a republic,could'nt believe that it actually worked,,even the people in my guild were gobsmacked that it worked..dont remember that happening in any other mmo but there you go,try it and see wwhat happens..it maybe its designed that way,if it is its bloody stupid.

Interesting. I tried that several times and it didn't work.

As for F2P: it doesn't really matter to me, I'll play it either way.......once I have more time to play, that is.

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Originally posted by kevjards
as well as this not being worthy of a sub..i found one of the most stupid things in this game..and i could'nt beleive it..dont know what made me try it but here goes..i,m not a star wars fanatic so here goes..i mailed an item from an imperial to a republic,could'nt believe that it actually worked,,even the people in my guild were gobsmacked that it worked..dont remember that happening in any other mmo but there you go,try it and see wwhat happens..it maybe its designed that way,if it is its bloody stupid.

Interesting. I tried that several times and it didn't work.

 

 

As for F2P: it doesn't really matter to me, I'll play it either way.......once I have more time to play, that is.

it may have been corrected because i did bring it to there attention,but that is something that should not be happening in the first place.