Originally posted by Xasapis

Well, a backpack and four bag slots mean little if you don't know how many slots you get per bag. Taken from what is now considered an industry standard *sigh* (WoW), the game started with a set amount of bag space that was increased with each expansion. And even that was not enough and people needed at least one mule (or some very dedicated crafters 2 or 3). So the real question is whether the bag space is constant or you can find bigger bags as you progress.

There is heaps of room in the bags. You would have to be a hoarder to run out of room.

Also the teleport and mail system may help with the bag issue, but I wonder how easy it is to teleport back and forth from the field to the nearest banker.

Its as easy as pushing the map button and clicking on where you want to go.

The game can't cost more than I 'think' since I am in complete control of every dime I spend.  Plus:

1. Nothing in the store is 'necessary'.  Storage space can easily be cleared by selling often or holding less 'fluff' items.

2. Everything on the cash shop is actually free.  Coin = Gems. Gems = cash shop items.  This is the game's design.  Spend some time playing and poof- you have all the storage space you need and your credit card collects spider webs.

I do agree they promised not to sell anything that players would need, But I consider inventory space and bank space a must have.

No matter what anyone says people with more inventory space will have easier time to make in game money. Not sure if any one fiddeld around with crafting, it need a lot of items so people with space can craft more = sell more = more gold. which i find to be unfair.

personally i dont care about char slots as i my self will not replay the game 8 times, but 5 is enough to experience the story of each race.

All in all people need to show to Anet that inventory space is a must have not a cash shop item.

Originally posted by deniskiller

I do agree they promised not to sell anything that players would need, But I consider inventory space and bank space a must have.

No matter what anyone says people with more inventory space will have easier time to make in game money. Not sure if any one fiddeld around with crafting, it need a lot of items so people with space can craft more = sell more = more gold. which i find to be unfair.

personally i dont care about char slots as i my self will not replay the game 8 times, but 5 is enough to experience the story of each race.

All in all people need to show to Anet that inventory space is a must have not a cash shop item.

Maybe that's why you get so much free inventory space to begin with?  Also, people seem to forget that cash shop items can be purchased with in-game coin (by buying gems).  No real money is needed.  If bank slots are the ONLY cash shop item somebody wants, I see no reason why they can't just save their coin and get some.

Originally posted by deniskiller

I do agree they promised not to sell anything that players would need, But I consider inventory space and bank space a must have.

No matter what anyone says people with more inventory space will have easier time to make in game money. Not sure if any one fiddeld around with crafting, it need a lot of items so people with space can craft more = sell more = more gold. which i find to be unfair.

personally i dont care about char slots as i my self will not replay the game 8 times, but 5 is enough to experience the story of each race.

All in all people need to show to Anet that inventory space is a must have not a cash shop item.

fiontar summed it up best. Read his post concerning slots. Posted by fiontar

oh dear :p

People are complaining about not having enough character slots for every single class now by default?

What's up? did the game blow people away so much that gameplay arguments are null and void?

You DO realise you can buy gems with gold right? 

Including the expansions they release probably 1-2 times a year GW2 is far from a F2P.

In comparison you get a lifetime subscription in TSW for 200$'s and people have been saying that it's a cash grab.

But as we know everything is acceptable when it comes to Anet and their F2Pish cash shop.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by Master10K
From my experience the only ones I even see needing extra inventory & bank space are cooks and gear collectors. Especially cooks. Everyone else can make do with what's given and even if you're a cook, you'd only need one of your alts to actually be a cook and mail all the food to other chars. So yeah... just more arguements against the cash shop based on assumptions.

Apparently from what I've read bank space is shared across your accounts.

So rolling an alt would not work.

For bank space anyways. You would have extra inventory space I suppose.

But if it is shared account wide, you wouldn't need to buy it 8 times for each character but instead only once per account.  I couldn't tell but did you include that factor in your calculations?  Also, don't most of the f2p games or at least the weastern ones have bag space unlocked per account rather than per character?  Maybe I'm off on that one.

Originally posted by Pigozz

Let me play your game

So I bought everything for 200$

Ok, WoW is cheaper when playing for a year

Ok so I play for three more months...suddenly GW2 is cheaper, and for every other month, the game is cheaper and cheaper

Ofcourse I dont have to buy any of this stuff with real money, I can spend ingame money...Can YOU spend gold in wow for monthly sub? No you cant, what shame

You lost your own game -- > fail

Well, someone has to pay for it with real money, someone has to buy the gems.  And if only a few buy the gems to sell for gold, since everyone seems to think gold isn't that important, then there won't be anyone to buy gems from, so you'll be stuck with buying them from the cs yourself.  

Originally posted by Atlan99

 

you only have five character slots.

 

So... i only need 1

They have to pay for thier servers somehow, how about just paying some money for making a good game ?

I donated 50 bucks to GGG for Path of exile, because they made a good game not because i wanted anything, i was already in beta.

It's time to man up and pay for the hobby you love, if you don't support these artistic creations there won't be any left. You will have COD 78 rehashed generic game instead.

Hell don't pay for extras !! you can still play a good game. 

Originally posted by Master10K
From my experience the only ones I even see needing extra inventory & bank space are cooks and gear collectors. Especially cooks. Everyone else can make do with what's given and even if you're a cook, you'd only need one of your alts to actually be a cook and mail all the food to other chars. So yeah... just more arguements against the cash shop based on assumptions.

Do you not think the ingredients storage in the bank specifically for cooking will suffice? I admit I haven't deved into cooking yet though I'd like to. Is it a case that like some of the crafting items, some ingredients don't fit in the collections tab?

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by Master10K
From my experience the only ones I even see needing extra inventory & bank space are cooks and gear collectors. Especially cooks. Everyone else can make do with what's given and even if you're a cook, you'd only need one of your alts to actually be a cook and mail all the food to other chars. So yeah... just more arguements against the cash shop based on assumptions.

Apparently from what I've read bank space is shared across your accounts.

So rolling an alt would not work.

For bank space anyways. You would have extra inventory space I suppose.

But if it is shared account wide, you wouldn't need to buy it 8 times for each character but instead only once per account.  I couldn't tell but did you include that factor in your calculations?  Also, don't most of the f2p games or at least the weastern ones have bag space unlocked per account rather than per character?  Maybe I'm off on that one.

The Bank slots are account shared.

The Bag slots are not. They would have to be purchased seperately for each character.

I also cannot take credit for the op. It was written by Valatar on the GW2 beta forums.

Many people raised a major point in my opinion.

In the usual MMO pay to play model (WoW, SW:TOR), if you stop paying, you are screwed, you can't play anymore at all.

In GW2, you may miss some confort options (more char slots, more bags, more bank slots) BUT you can still log in and enjoy the game until you are able to spend money on the game again. It is YOUR rythm.

As long as the cash shop doesn't become "pay to win", this model is better than the monthly sub model for the player, since he will never be locked out of the game even if he has a hard real life pass where he'd rather not spend money on a video game.