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  FreyaVP

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OP  5/02/12 2:31:34 AM#1
title, the beta blew.
  BeansnBread

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5/02/12 2:32:41 AM#2
I liked the beta.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Adamantine

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5/02/12 2:39:18 AM#3

Well ... I guess if people enjoyed GW1, they can be almost sure they will enjoy GW2 as well.

But as someone who really got bored out of his mind super quick in GW1, I am less likely to get very happy with GW2. The removeal of the trinity makes it even less likely.

Also, I will be very happy when all these people who can discuss endlessly how evil and wrong the trinity is have the game that offers them an alternative.

 

  dubyahite

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5/02/12 2:42:25 AM#4
Originally posted by Adamantine

Well ... I guess if people enjoyed GW1, they can be almost sure they will enjoy GW2 as well.

But as someone who really got bored out of his mind super quick in GW1, I am less likely to get very happy with GW2. The removeal of the trinity makes it even less likely.

Also, I will be very happy when all these people who can discuss endlessly how evil and wrong the trinity is have the game that offers them an alternative.

 

Did you reach inside my brain and pull this post out? This is pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

 

Anyways, I still think GW 2 will probably be a good or great mmo, and I might even enjoy it, but I'm not convinced yet. Pretty much for those exact reasons. 

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  Terrorizor

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5/02/12 2:44:15 AM#5
Originally posted by Adamantine

 

Also, I will be very happy when all these people who can discuss endlessly how evil and wrong the trinity is have the game that offers them an alternative.

 

I agree with that statement.

 

The thing I don't understand is, why do so many people who aren't interested in GW2, care so much about a lot of people looking forward to it and being excited about it? It just seems like several people continue to go out of their way to try and fight the GW2 hype. Doesn't make much sense to me.

  Xasapis

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5/02/12 2:44:59 AM#6

Because the developers trolled the whole mmorpg community to believe that every other mmorpg is boring but theirs. Eventually it may work for them or it may bite them in the ass, since so much hype cannot be justified.

Personally I hope it ends up being a decent game, but unfortunately the zealotry of the fan base has sour my excitement over the release of this game. It was a bit like the days before Bioware released SW:TOR, only this time it's 100 times worse in absurdity and total lack of any kind of objectivity.

 

@Terrorizor

The opposite is actually happening. In every single thread the zealots attack anything that is not according to Anet's manifesto or anyone who dares to voice the slightest critisism towards GW2. It's so absurd really it reached the point of ridiculous.

  Maelkor

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5/02/12 2:47:51 AM#7

Define Over-hyped.

The game is what it was advertised to be. Whether you like it or not is not relevant as to whether the game actually delivers on what was advertised.

Just in case your confused - Hype is what marketing people say about what a product is or will be.

Over hype would then be exagerating a true fact about a product beyond what is reasonable - IE hype - tons of quests in my game - reality - game has 500 quests - hype is accurate enough and should be considered true. Overhype  - We have the most quests of any game ever made for all time - or - We have the best most original quests of all time - when the quests are 100 fetch and carry - 100 kill quests - 100 defend quests etc all following a very basic mold and just changing out the monsters or items involved.

Things to look for and disregard in Hype - any absolute qualifiers - The best - The most - completely original - never before seen - etc. These are almost always false although they may have a kernal of truth in them which they will hang their hat on.

The only thing i did not personally experience that was hyped was the evolving quest chains that are supposed to change the world depending on what the players do or do not do.

There were some public quest chains - however - they reminded me more of the mechanics of the PQ's of warhammer than anything radically new or different. I am expecting that as one gets further into the gameworld these evolving quest chains will become more apparent - although only time will tell on that one.

  Vesavius

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5/02/12 2:50:01 AM#8
someone needs to get these worthless troll threads under control IMO.
  aesperus

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5/02/12 2:50:57 AM#9
*shrug* I guess some of us are just sick of grinding, gear treadmills, waiting for healers, and endgame dailies. If that's what you like, it's not like there aren't pleanty of games that offer that. For others, GW2 is the first game to offer an alternative in a long long time. Sorry it didn't cater to you.
  Excession

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5/02/12 2:52:50 AM#10
Originally posted by FreyaVP
title, the beta blew.

In what way exactly did the beta blow? in your opinion of course.

Also, how does your opinon that the beta blew, lead to GW2 being over hyped?

As someone that enjoyed GW, I was interested in GW2, and after getting some hands on with it over the weekend, my opinion is that it will be a good, fun game.

If that means I am adding to the hype in your opinion, so be it.

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  Dekarx12

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5/02/12 2:54:37 AM#11
Originally posted by FreyaVP
title, the beta blew.

shoo!! fly shoo!! so annoying!!

  mrhyde1428

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5/02/12 2:55:48 AM#12

You realize that threads like this, just add more to the hype right? 

One more GW2 thread to show up in the "Current Forum Activity...Refreshed every 10 seconds."

Just think its funny :)

  Terrorizor

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5/02/12 2:58:13 AM#13
Originally posted by Xasapis

 

@Terrorizor

The opposite is actually happening. In every single thread the zealots attack anything that is not according to Anet's manifesto or anyone who dares to voice the slightest critisism towards GW2. It's so absurd really it reached the point of ridiculous.

It's funny that you suggest that, but for the members that actually played the beta, less then 6% were unhappy, yet there is clearly more then 6% unhappy threads. Seems like the 6% is more vocal, then the majority of happy players. It's also seems that the entire 12% of GW2 haters (another 6% didn't play the beta) are extremely unhappy when someone from the majority disagrees with them. They probably get called trolls and such alot, but I really try and refrain from that because I think they just don't really know what it's all about, so they make mistakes unintentionally and some people think they are doing it intentionally. The way I see it, if they actually knew all the different facts about the game, they'd be on the other side of the fence, but whatever.

  dontadow

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5/02/12 3:04:28 AM#14

Some people's hype is another person's jealousy. I see threads like this and I see a bunch of folk lashing out cause G2 is right,. No matter the incarnation, you've been playing the same game for 10 years. Imagine if every game played like supermario brothers, every platform ,for 10 years.  Every platform game, Little Big Planet, Braid, Sonic the Hedgehog.  hat if they all had the same element of jumping on someone's head and shooting fireballs. Aschew the game customeizers, time altering game play and fast movment mechanics and insert poles with flags. They just changed the characters, maybe the setting added one or two new mechanics to it (maybe a racoon suit) and that as it, for 10 years. 

And why would they all have the same, cause ...well it worked in one.  

Then imagine a game comes along and says, well e're not going to put in the jumping on head. Well a lot of people, people who gave up on platforming cause they got tired of playign the latest version of mario brothers (who look that has a crosshair) are going to flock to this game. For just the fact that someone had the balls to make a different game in the genre.  It's innovative simply because its not following the MMO model.  As a matter of fact it disregards so many  common thread about mmos, it shoul dbe overhyped. It's the first new MMO to come out in 10 years.  

I get the jealousy. It's hard when someone points out you've been doing the same thing for 10 years and you didnt notice. Heck,even now you still don;t ant to believe it.  Can't tell me a genre that works like MMO.  Not a single genre or subgenre has every game inside it work under the exact same mechanics.  Even a football game wwill be different. Madden was far different from Gameday which as different from Blitz. But MMOs, i can play rift like wow like ruines of magic like Tor.  Raids and dungeosn boil down to the same questions where do i stand and what do i spam. 

  Greyhooff

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5/02/12 3:09:27 AM#15

- I enjoyed the beta

- There is too much hype

- GW2 is a great game, but it won't change everyone's lives, no MMO will

  ragnarrog

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5/02/12 3:10:23 AM#16
because the gw1 community is desperate for it.
  Xasapis

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5/02/12 3:11:48 AM#17

@terrorizor

It's the first beta weekend, what did you expect? Even for Tera, it took more than a weekend for people to realise that they didn't like the game that much and stay clear. I bet D3 beta weekend would be as much successful as GW2, but it means little in mmorpg terms.

In any case, these forums are filled with people who have something to say, usually something polarised, which eventually make their argument invalid.

 

So far from what I read (I'm not pre-ordering a game without a release date) about GW2 beta issues, range is overpowered compared to melee (to be expected), tons of non game breaking bugs (to be expected) and some concerns regarding the repeatability of events (to be expected, just not so fast).

Still, if the above were the only actual issues, I don't see why Anet still hasn't announced a release date.

 

@dontadow

Last I checked, pretty much every FPS game plays the same for decades. mmorpgs are not the only games that have been evolving in baby steps, mostly because despite what people say, innovation is usually punished. So developers prefer to evolve features and occassionally create a new one. Which is the case with GW2, I can't think of a feature that is not an evolution of something that was found in other mmorpgs, only presented in a nice hype banner that the disgrunded mmorpg players of the past picked up as their last hope of fun.

  mgilbrtsn

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5/02/12 3:12:43 AM#18
Originally posted by Greyhooff

- I enjoyed the beta

- There is too much hype

- GW2 is a great game, but it won't change everyone's lives, no MMO will

Not really a response to you, but you definitely get a Kudo for having Baghdad Bob.

 

This question is asked almost every new major game that comes out.  People simple get excited over the prospect of a new game that they will enjoy.  Everyone has different reasons, but the answer isn't very complex.

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  troublmaker

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5/02/12 3:14:01 AM#19

Definitely the devs.  They made every single other studio out there look like the big bad boogie man out to get you.  I think there was a six month period where all anyone was talking about was how Guild Wars 2 was buy to play and how much ArenaNet cared about gamers because they weren't trying to "cheat you" with microtransactions and subscriptions.

It was a little funny when ArenaNet announced they were going to run the game based entirely off of microtransactions.

What a lot of people don't understand is that ArenaNet is owned by their own boogie man, NCSoft.

But people were sold more on the studio and less on the game.

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  Comnitus

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5/02/12 3:14:07 AM#20
Originally posted by Greyhooff

- I enjoyed the beta

- There is too much hype

- GW2 is a great game, but it won't change everyone's lives, no MMO will

Copy and paste this response into every post of every GW2 thread. Please.

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