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  Anubisan

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Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 1749

 
4/30/12 10:27:29 AM#1

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

  TheYear1500

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Joined: 4/14/12
Posts: 144

4/30/12 10:29:41 AM#2
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

Yep its a beta, they said the game does not use the GPU at all, and they said they had not optimized the game yet.  So working as expected.  

  Magnetia

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Joined: 11/07/11
Posts: 881

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4/30/12 10:30:33 AM#3

From Known issues list.

Hardware Compatibility

  • Display: the graphics-settings slider has only a minor impact on performance at this time.
    • We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance.
    • On older or lower-end machines, it is recommended that you try disabling reflections to improve frame rate.
  • Forcing anti-aliasing through AMD Catalyst™ Control Center or AMD VISION™ Engine Control Center typically results in a black screen when playing.
  • Windows TDR (Timeout Detection and Recovery) will sometimes restart a user’s graphics drivers if they become unresponsive, resulting in a notification that the graphics driver has been restarted.
  • Alienware ATI Laptops: the Guild Wars 2 client does not restore properly after being minimized.
  • Currently, adjusting the core clock speed of the GPU or CPU typically results in lower performance.
    • It is advised that you leave core clock speeds at factory defaults.
 

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  Epicent

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4/30/12 10:30:57 AM#4
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?


I experienced the same. So dissapointed.

  Volkon

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Joined: 9/14/10
Posts: 3196

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4/30/12 10:31:35 AM#5
I don't know all the details off my head on my machine, but it's an i7 quad core, yada yada... even in huge events or in WvW with a sea of people there I was completely lag free. I'm located in Virginia, and have Fios for internet (fiber optic). My kids have i5 machines with similar flawless performance. I wonder if something between you and ANet was getting in the way perhaps?

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  Nevulus

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Joined: 8/23/06
Posts: 1004

4/30/12 10:31:48 AM#6

Performance should be the least of your worries.

If properly coded, which I am guessing it was, optimizing performance by moving the load to the gpu instead of the cpu should be a simple task for Arenanet at this point.

After day one, I had no more performance problems. Sure I had lag around large groups, but its expected since they clearly stated it wasnt optimized to take advantage of our gpu.

A more important issue that I found was the overflow instance problems everyone had. We will see in time how they address this, which I am sure they will in a timely manner. Well I hope.

  Vesavius

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4/30/12 10:31:50 AM#7
Originally posted by Anubisan

I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet

 

Good, I realised that as well.

I guess that covers your own OP well enough for me to not expand.

  Wolvards

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Joined: 1/27/12
Posts: 674

4/30/12 10:33:07 AM#8
Mine ran great, in the large cities it got lagged when i would first load in and get near  a large group of people, or when fighting with 30+ people, but the PvE ran fairly smooth for me, Now i understood that is is a beta so i didn't expect a released games graphics, which it seems sooo many people expected.

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  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2034

4/30/12 10:33:44 AM#9
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

AMD are horrible CPU's for games as their FPU unit is really bad. THat is why I switched to an Intel. This is a beta and they said it woundn't be optimized. You need to give them a chance to bug fix.

A.Net is good with beta's - the next Beta will be much faster.


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  Xzen

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Posts: 2550

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4/30/12 10:33:57 AM#10
I have an older machine and had no performance issues.
  User Deleted
4/30/12 10:34:57 AM#11
Originally posted by Magnetia

From Known issues list.

Hardware Compatibility

  • Display: the graphics-settings slider has only a minor impact on performance at this time.
    • We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance.
    • On older or lower-end machines, it is recommended that you try disabling reflections to improve frame rate.
  • Forcing anti-aliasing through AMD Catalyst™ Control Center or AMD VISION™ Engine Control Center typically results in a black screen when playing.
  • Windows TDR (Timeout Detection and Recovery) will sometimes restart a user’s graphics drivers if they become unresponsive, resulting in a notification that the graphics driver has been restarted.
  • Alienware ATI Laptops: the Guild Wars 2 client does not restore properly after being minimized.
  • Currently, adjusting the core clock speed of the GPU or CPU typically results in lower performance.
    • It is advised that you leave core clock speeds at factory defaults.
 

This is correct. Reading ftw!

  ToS-Drakemor

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Joined: 2/13/04
Posts: 16

4/30/12 10:40:25 AM#12

Yea, i7 930, 3.4hz  ati 5870 and 9ghz 1333mhz ram-  ran the game flawless on its highest settings throughout the beta. I did have to turn "use game settings" on for everything available in my grasphics control panel, but I ran the highest in-game settings I could. I had my control panel setup for something else and never changed it back.

  lapomme

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Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 275

4/30/12 10:44:38 AM#13
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

AMD are horrible CPU's for games as their FPU unit is really bad. THat is why I switched to an Intel. This is a beta and they said it woundn't be optimized. You need to give them a chance to bug fix.

A.Net is good with beta's - the next Beta will be much faster.

AMD's floating point units are "bad"?  Errr...no I don't think so.  The problem lies in the comments above.  The game is not optimized.  Graphics don't get processed "on their own".  The game's programmers have to design it themselves so your computer's CPU and GPU can process the information in the most efficient way.  This is all done on the game engine "level".  If a game already has a completed game engine, these optimizations are mostly completed for them, but Arena.Net are building their own heavily modified engine from Guild Wars.

 

That's what the issue is.

  OldManFunk

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Joined: 4/29/06
Posts: 865

4/30/12 10:45:01 AM#14

i970 with a 460gtx was playable in every situation including WvW. The worst lag I had was when everyone in the zone tried to kill the bunny rabbit boss during the final beta event, and even then it was still playable. Maybe there's something wrong with your computer.

  Leonona

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Joined: 1/02/06
Posts: 225

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4/30/12 10:45:10 AM#15
Which graphics card you're running with doesn't matter much currently as the game is cpu-bound. Many people with AMD-cpu's have been complaining about really poor performance. Hopefully they will make much better use of the GPU once we come to release.
  Dragonantis

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Joined: 12/16/10
Posts: 928

4/30/12 10:46:49 AM#16
This is why they have Beta's, to learn this stuff and fix it down the line.
  Arachneus1

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Joined: 6/25/06
Posts: 230

4/30/12 10:47:04 AM#17
Also a flawless performance from my machine.  Not a single hiccup in FPS or lag anywhere even during a keep war at highest settings.  Then again I never forced anything on my factory defaults for my hardware like it says not to do.
  OldManFunk

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Joined: 4/29/06
Posts: 865

4/30/12 10:47:59 AM#18
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

Oh, there's the problem. AMD processor on a CPU bound beta, ya.. that'd do it.

  Requiamer

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Joined: 5/20/05
Posts: 2051

4/30/12 10:48:51 AM#19
Originally posted by Anubisan

Am I the only one who experienced this during the beta weekend?

My computer is quite high end and is capable of playing every other game on full quality with a high framerate, yet the GW2 beta was nearly unplayable in certain areas.

Before someone says it is the fault of my computer not being up to spec... let me give you some details on my hardware:

- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

- 16 GB of DD3 RAM

- Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 with 3GB video RAM

Like I said above, I can play every other game on full quality with a great framerate. I realize GW2 is still in beta and they probably haven't done all of their optimizations yet, but I found it quite disturbing that the performance was so bad at this stage. I'm just wondering if other people had this problem as well?

What kind of graphic setting you had? Because my performance was great, the only real lag i ever had was at the very beginning of the beta when it was clear the servers were just struggling, if working properly at all. The rest of the beta, i was pretty impressed by the performance, both in pve mass event, in WvW with at least 50 guys fighting at Castle entrance for few hours if not more before i left.

I used default setting, in fact i just check it, and didn't touch anything. From what i recall i was around medium setting, but i really didn't touched them, really had no need to since the game was working very well.

I have a Core duo E8400 (3ghz)

4giga ram

gtx 560

window 7 ulti

 

Also it was reported they have some issue with Amd, but tbh honest a lot of game seam to have issue with AMD cpu, i don't think they are that good anymore, but other people will probably have a better understanding here, i'm really not a tech guy, but AMD with bad performance come very often in games forums these last few years. I'm not trying to defend ANet here, they probably have performance problems if people report them; just pointing what i see.

  RCP_ut

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Joined: 4/24/12
Posts: 276

4/30/12 10:50:16 AM#20
Originally posted by Mephster
Originally posted by Magnetia

From Known issues list.

Hardware Compatibility

  • Display: the graphics-settings slider has only a minor impact on performance at this time.
    • We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance.
    • On older or lower-end machines, it is recommended that you try disabling reflections to improve frame rate.
  • Forcing anti-aliasing through AMD Catalyst™ Control Center or AMD VISION™ Engine Control Center typically results in a black screen when playing.
  • Windows TDR (Timeout Detection and Recovery) will sometimes restart a user’s graphics drivers if they become unresponsive, resulting in a notification that the graphics driver has been restarted.
  • Alienware ATI Laptops: the Guild Wars 2 client does not restore properly after being minimized.
  • Currently, adjusting the core clock speed of the GPU or CPU typically results in lower performance.
    • It is advised that you leave core clock speeds at factory defaults.
 

This is correct. Reading ftw!

This explains all about the bad performance.

I always run the game medium and had no problems at all.

 

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