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  Nightfall31

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OP  4/29/12 11:37:31 PM#1

 The type of play in GW2 is very unforgiving. It demands attention and on the fly changes while constantly moving and dodging.

 

Those of you who KEYBOARD TURN AND CLICK THEIR ABILITIES are going to be destroyed. Absolutely 100 percent owned. And there is no way you can tell me otherwise.  This combat is going to weed out the clickers from the keybinders.

 

So for all you 'clickers' out there, if your thinking about playing GW2, I would advise you to learn keybinding. The sooner the better...........

 

:)

 

 

 

EDIT: Of course im referring to PVP... pve, well, /shrug....But pvp? You are deadmeat......

  CrunkJuice2

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4/29/12 11:45:04 PM#2

thanks for this great lesson in common sense

or at least any pvper thats worth anything already knows that a keybinder will always perform better then a clicker.i guess in terms of gw2 it depends on how many skills the game has,cuz in all honesty? im a keybinder fo sho,but i ended up turning into a half keybinder half clicker in swtor due to the truckload of abilities they just so happily figured they'd add in the game

 

 

 

  adam_nox

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4/30/12 12:10:51 AM#3
That's pretty much how it is in every mmo.
  elocke

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4/30/12 12:19:13 AM#4
Originally posted by Nightfall31

 The type of play in GW2 is very unforgiving. It demands attention and on the fly changes while constantly moving and dodging.

 

Those of you who KEYBOARD TURN AND CLICK THEIR ABILITIES are going to be destroyed. Absolutely 100 percent owned. And there is no way you can tell me otherwise.  This combat is going to weed out the clickers from the keybinders.

 

So for all you 'clickers' out there, if your thinking about playing GW2, I would advise you to learn keybinding. The sooner the better...........

 

:)

 

 

 

EDIT: Of course im referring to PVP... pve, well, /shrug....But pvp? You are deadmeat......

I wouldn't say they will be destroyed.  It's just going to help them get away from that playstyle.  If they stick with it.  I was a hybrid clicker keyboard mover up to about 2 months ago.  I've been trying to train myself to hit the hot keys without clicking on them on screen.  It still feels off, but games like Tera and now GW2 are really helping me learn it and get it down.  Felt much more comfortable trying to learn it in GW2 then I do in Rift or WoW.  

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  Nightfall31

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OP  4/30/12 12:41:55 AM#5
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Nightfall31

 The type of play in GW2 is very unforgiving. It demands attention and on the fly changes while constantly moving and dodging.

 

Those of you who KEYBOARD TURN AND CLICK THEIR ABILITIES are going to be destroyed. Absolutely 100 percent owned. And there is no way you can tell me otherwise.  This combat is going to weed out the clickers from the keybinders.

 

So for all you 'clickers' out there, if your thinking about playing GW2, I would advise you to learn keybinding. The sooner the better...........

 

:)

 

 

 

EDIT: Of course im referring to PVP... pve, well, /shrug....But pvp? You are deadmeat......

I wouldn't say they will be destroyed.  It's just going to help them get away from that playstyle.  If they stick with it.  I was a hybrid clicker keyboard mover up to about 2 months ago.  I've been trying to train myself to hit the hot keys without clicking on them on screen.  It still feels off, but games like Tera and now GW2 are really helping me learn it and get it down.  Felt much more comfortable trying to learn it in GW2 then I do in Rift or WoW.  

 

Believe me, they will be eaten alive. After an hour of battlegrounds being on the bottom of the food chain, they are going to /uninstall faster then anything...

 

Also, im actually glad for you that your learning keybinding. Props to you good sir..For a couple of years in another mmo, I did only that. God was I bad, lmao...

  wrightstuf

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4/30/12 12:43:56 AM#6
not really...in Tera, i'd agree, clickers are hosed , but not in GW2  so much
  Butregenyo

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4/30/12 12:49:00 AM#7
Originally posted by adam_nox
That's pretty much how it is in every mmo.

no it is not. You can survive your way through the last level with a proper cookie cutter rotation, but in gw2 battles are situational even normal mobs can kill you instanly if you are not careful.  You have to pay attention to each battle. Tera is similar as well to that sense

  Vorthanion

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4/30/12 12:51:30 AM#8
I would assume that most people who click and keyboard turn wouldn't even be interested in PvP with all of the spaz monkies that are drawn to it.

  Asheram

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4/30/12 12:52:39 AM#9
I play Mount and Blade Warband mp regulary so I have no trouble keyboard turning as that is the only way to move in that game, it would be awesome if GW2 let you reassign left and right mouse buttons because I would keybind all my skills to a multi button mouse.

  Monorojo

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4/30/12 12:55:20 AM#10

Buy a  Razer Naga.

 

Problem solved.

  Zekiah

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4/30/12 12:55:28 AM#11
G Keyboards will make people cry. 

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  Asheram

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What happens when you get 5 stars do you get a cookie? ;)

4/30/12 12:59:31 AM#12
Originally posted by Monorojo

Buy a  Razer Naga.

 

Problem solved.

Problem,for me anyhow, is that the game will not let you reassign rmb&lmb which I find annoying because even in M&B they can be.

  Xthos

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4/30/12 1:08:26 AM#13

I have a mental transplant, I look somewhere and my guy goes there, I think of an ability, and it happens...Come on, catch up!

 

We will see, I know someone that is a clicker/turner and despite that, they are usually atop the board (or very close to it) in PvP in every MMO I have seen them in....and I am not convienced that everyone that isn't a clicker/turner is good....So I don't put much stock in this prediction.

 

I am not a clicker/turner, just not convienced by absolute statements, when I see otherwise all the time.

 

 

  wrightstuf

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4/30/12 1:14:20 AM#14
Originally posted by Xthos

I have a mental transplant, I look somewhere and my guy goes there, I think of an ability, and it happens...Come on, catch up!

 

We will see, I know someone that is a clicker/turner and despite that, they are usually atop the board (or very close to it) in PvP in every MMO I have seen them in....and I am not convienced that everyone that isn't a clicker/turner is good....So I don't put much stock in this prediction.

 

I am not a clicker/turner, just not convienced by absolute statements, when I see otherwise all the time.

 

 


agree completely...clickers will do just fine in GW2....PvE, PvP or otherwise. It takes alot more than just how you activate your abilities to make a good player.

They once also said left handers were severely handicapped. left handers rule the world now!

  FlawSGI

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4/30/12 1:20:22 AM#15
I am not a huge PvP person to begin with and I have always done just fine as a clicker. I think you just get used to whatever way you play. I have become more of a binder of late after buying the naga, but I notice i strafe a lot less and I suffer for it. May have to go back to old habits since it felt more comfortable.

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  aesperus

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4/30/12 1:21:35 AM#16
Originally posted by wrightstuf

agree completely...clickers will do just fine in GW2....PvE, PvP or otherwise. It takes alot more than just how you activate your abilities to make a good player.

They once also said left handers were severely handicapped. left handers rule the world now!

I dunno. I saw a few livestreams that show otherwise. The combat is very mobile in this game, and unlike a game like TERA, the combat is very unforgiving. While certain attacks do have tells, they are much harder to avoid.

- for example in TERA, a monster primes an attack, you step out of the way, and most of the time the monster doesn't re-correct itself for your new location. In GW2, if a mob gets ready for a big attack, and you dodge too soon, the mob will readjust his aim towards your new location. Furthermore, some of these attacks can 1-2 shot you if you're not careful, so dodging is extremely important.

Clickers seem to do alright in the starter areas, or in zergs (especially if they are a ranged). However, once they face tougher challenges / pvp they get absolutely annihilated. The combat just takes too much quick thinking on the fly to get away with stopping for a sec, clicking on the skill, and then reaction; for any of the harder challenges. If nothing else, you will want to assign a keybind to dodge. I've found that even double tapping can be too slow at times.

  KingGator

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4/30/12 1:31:50 AM#17
Originally posted by Nightfall31
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Nightfall31

 The type of play in GW2 is very unforgiving. It demands attention and on the fly changes while constantly moving and dodging.

 

Those of you who KEYBOARD TURN AND CLICK THEIR ABILITIES are going to be destroyed. Absolutely 100 percent owned. And there is no way you can tell me otherwise.  This combat is going to weed out the clickers from the keybinders.

 

So for all you 'clickers' out there, if your thinking about playing GW2, I would advise you to learn keybinding. The sooner the better...........

 

:)

 

 

 

EDIT: Of course im referring to PVP... pve, well, /shrug....But pvp? You are deadmeat......

I wouldn't say they will be destroyed.  It's just going to help them get away from that playstyle.  If they stick with it.  I was a hybrid clicker keyboard mover up to about 2 months ago.  I've been trying to train myself to hit the hot keys without clicking on them on screen.  It still feels off, but games like Tera and now GW2 are really helping me learn it and get it down.  Felt much more comfortable trying to learn it in GW2 then I do in Rift or WoW.  

 

Believe me, they will be eaten alive. After an hour of battlegrounds being on the bottom of the food chain, they are going to /uninstall faster then anything...

 

Also, im actually glad for you that your learning keybinding. Props to you good sir..For a couple of years in another mmo, I did only that. God was I bad, lmao...

Why would this make you happy? Less people to play with is a bad thing. Its really sort of a sad elitist sentiment your projecting right now, you should re-evaluate your life and what is and isn't actually important. Truth;  being good at an mmo means absolutely nothing.

  KingGator

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4/30/12 1:37:25 AM#18
Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

thanks for this great lesson in common sense

or at least any pvper thats worth anything already knows that a keybinder will always perform better then a clicker.i guess in terms of gw2 it depends on how many skills the game has,cuz in all honesty? im a keybinder fo sho,but i ended up turning into a half keybinder half clicker in swtor due to the truckload of abilities they just so happily figured they'd add in the game

 

 

 

Due to the global cool down you can get to your next ability in swtor before it ends quite easily with a mouse making keybinds almost pointless. You can move by wsad and bind strafe to q and e and click away with teh mouse for the rest of it and be at zero competitive disadvantage in swtor. In daoc I didn't click and relied on binds. In wow I used binds, in eq2 i didn't play on a pvp server so I totally clicked that game away.

I am fairly certain I am not going to play this game, but if i do, and if it does really matter binding is easy and with teh limited skill bars you have its going to be fairly easy to pick up, the OPs elitist sentiment is just self agrandizing blather, if the game is good people will play and if playing means taking the couple days to get used to using some binds, people will do it, as a guy who's jumped back and forth it isn't that hard and just because you do it doesn't make you "l33t dood".

  MMOExposed

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4/30/12 1:43:48 AM#19

"click ranged attack while moving"

Repeat step one over and over.

 

Hey OP seem to be working pretty well.

 

  AvsRock21

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4/30/12 1:47:42 AM#20
Originally posted by KingGator
Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

thanks for this great lesson in common sense

or at least any pvper thats worth anything already knows that a keybinder will always perform better then a clicker.i guess in terms of gw2 it depends on how many skills the game has,cuz in all honesty? im a keybinder fo sho,but i ended up turning into a half keybinder half clicker in swtor due to the truckload of abilities they just so happily figured they'd add in the game

 

 

 

Due to the global cool down you can get to your next ability in swtor before it ends quite easily with a mouse making keybinds almost pointless. You can move by wsad and bind strafe to q and e and click away with teh mouse for the rest of it and be at zero competitive disadvantage in swtor. In daoc I didn't click and relied on binds. In wow I used binds, in eq2 i didn't play on a pvp server so I totally clicked that game away.

I am fairly certain I am not going to play this game, but if i do, and if it does really matter binding is easy and with teh limited skill bars you have its going to be fairly easy to pick up, the OPs elitist sentiment is just self agrandizing blather, if the game is good people will play and if playing means taking the couple days to get used to using some binds, people will do it, as a guy who's jumped back and forth it isn't that hard and just because you do it doesn't make you "l33t dood".

 

Wrong.  Do you want proof?  Try keybinding for once.  In Tor, change a and d to strafe, unbind 'turn left' and 'turn right'.  Now you can use e and q for your first two keybinds.  Then for your next two most used abilities use shift + q and shift + e.  That's four skills you can hit very easily.  You can then go on to use r, shift + r, f, shift + f, x, shift + x, z, and shift + z.  That's 12 abilities keybound, with just they keys around w, a, s, and d.  1 through 3 can also be used as they are esy to hit.  If you need more keybinds, you can start  using ctrl or alt plus any of the letters that are already bound. 

 

Once you start playing with keybinds, you never go back.  Technically you could hit a spell with a mouse every global, but it doesn't happen.  You take time to pick which ability to use, plus time to use your eyes and direct the pointer to the skill, then you have to hit it.  This takes your awareness away from what is going on around you, and is never as quick as keybinds.  With a keybinding setup your finger is basically already on the spell once the global cooldown is up.  You can concentrate on movement and positioning at all times.  The mouse should only be used for turning the camera and targeting (tab targetting in pvp is.......rofl).  

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