i have to agree, its a blast. they really took the quest system in the right direction and did what trion and mythic failed to do

and im loving the art direction

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

I agree.  What key did you bind dodge too?  Just curious as I'm not sure if I want to mouse bind it or a hotkey on my keyboard.  And how does that work with direction that you move?

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

lol. Never happened to me. And I can't stand having a dodge under different key. Double tapping ftw! I wouldn't call that schoolboy error but a matter of preference.

Originally posted by QSatu

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

lol. Never happened to me. And I can't stand having a dodge under different key. Double tapping ftw! I wouldn't call that schoolboy error but a matter of preference.

I have to agree with that, seems (to me) the double-tapping would be the ideal way to dodge, but to each his own. Again, I haven't actually tried it yet, but it just seems like it would be a quicker alternative to using a set dodge button. Thankfully, the devs seem to be all about options, and if they can offer an alternative to those who don't like the double-tap, then everyone comes out ahead.

Originally posted by teeth

Originally posted by QSatu

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

lol. Never happened to me. And I can't stand having a dodge under different key. Double tapping ftw! I wouldn't call that schoolboy error but a matter of preference.

I have to agree with that, seems (to me) the double-tapping would be the ideal way to dodge, but to each his own. Again, I haven't actually tried it yet, but it just seems like it would be a quicker alternative to using a set dodge button. Thankfully, the devs seem to be all about options, and if they can offer an alternative to those who don't like the double-tap, then everyone comes out ahead.

I always double-tap in the direction I want to dodge. How does the single dodge button work exactly? Does it dodge you in a random direction or the same direction all the time? I'm sure there will be situations where you will need to know which way you have to dodge.

Originally posted by waynejr2
How is dodging evolutionary?  Didn't DDO have it six years ago...........

Plenty of games have had a dodge mechanic. I don't think anyone was saying it was evolutionary.

Originally posted by Deolus

Originally posted by teeth

Originally posted by QSatu

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

lol. Never happened to me. And I can't stand having a dodge under different key. Double tapping ftw! I wouldn't call that schoolboy error but a matter of preference.

I have to agree with that, seems (to me) the double-tapping would be the ideal way to dodge, but to each his own. Again, I haven't actually tried it yet, but it just seems like it would be a quicker alternative to using a set dodge button. Thankfully, the devs seem to be all about options, and if they can offer an alternative to those who don't like the double-tap, then everyone comes out ahead.

I always double-tap in the direction I want to dodge. How does the single dodge button work exactly? Does it dodge you in a random direction or the same direction all the time? I'm sure there will be situations where you will need to know which way you have to dodge.

I just looked 'Dodge' up on the wiki and it mentions holding the set dodge button + a corresponding movement key, to move in a particular direction. It won't be random, but it did say you would dodge backward only if you are not moving (I guess hitting the dodge button, only). Actually, that's not a bad alternative to double-tapping as I originally thought.

Originally posted by Deolus

Originally posted by waynejr2
How is dodging evolutionary?  Didn't DDO have it six years ago...........

Plenty of games have had a dodge mechanic. I don't think anyone was saying it was evolutionary.

 

Ok, what did the OP say when he wrote:

• Dodging is an evolution to MMO combat. The animation is smooth, and the double-tap just feels "right".

Originally posted by QSatu

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

lol. Never happened to me. And I can't stand having a dodge under different key. Double tapping ftw! I wouldn't call that schoolboy error but a matter of preference.

If you happen to use the D-pad on a Razor Nostromo to move around... you will end up dodging a lot by mistake.

I am sure this has something to do with the way I am pressing my D-Pad but I have yet mastered it without accidently dodging at the worst times.

I think I'm going to have to agree with this too. City of Heroes was my favourite for a long time and I've enjoyed some games since then but the experience was never quite the same until now. I only played a few hours and might be a bit overexcited but this game feels alive, the environments are amazing and the event based missions are a real refreshing change. I usually find it hard to get into Fantasy genre games but I think Guildwars 2 will be the one to do it. People might argue the merits of SWTOR over Guildwars 2 but IMO this game is much much better.

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Vortigon

Double tapping is a pain though, in pvp you will find yourself dodging accidently.

First thing I did was disable that headache.

Action and movement should never use the same key, schoolboy error by the devs.

I agree.  What key did you bind dodge too?  Just curious as I'm not sure if I want to mouse bind it or a hotkey on my keyboard.  And how does that work with direction that you move?

I have a razer naga and made a little macro for left and right dodge using my 4 and 6 buttons respectively. All I have to do is press it once, it double clicks and I roll.

Originally posted by Size-Twelve

• The city of Lion's Arch is the best MMO city I've been in to date. It's breathtaking how large and alive the city feels.

Ha!  You know, when I heard on the feeds that Lion's Arch would be introduced, I was like "who cares?"  I'm not the biggest city explorer, particularly when there's a time limit on the BWE, but my friend and I met up there and explored the place and I had a blast, it was way bigger than I would have imagined, lots of amazing little touches and houses that you could actually enter, and when the game is released, the invisible walls off the shore will be removed and you'll be able to swim out to the ocean.  I was impressed by something I thought I'd find dull.

Originally posted by Size-Twelve

Things GW2 does legitimately better than others:

 

• Dodging is an evolution to MMO combat. The animation is smooth, and the double-tap just feels "right".

 

This is the funny line of everything you talked about.

It's been done for years, you just haven't played the games that incorporated it.

However, for most people playing Western MMOs, you are correct that it is a nice change.

MMO Combat as most know it is far behind Korean ARPGs sadly. After playing for about 12 hours I've lost four 1v1s and maybe five or six people that I was unable to kill. Win rate is around 80% because most people aren't objective based in the beta it seems.

Why?

Because I've played Mount & Blade and every Korean twitch MMO. Everyone will catch on really quick though because features in this game "make sense" and "feel right".