Originally posted by Corehaven

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

lol.

low fps is hardly "worrisome".

Every freaking MMORPG has low fps in Beta. 

God you guys are so spoiled... and ignorant sometimes.

 

Isnt this supposed to be a stress test this weekend?  Did I miss something? 

 

See people, you are in BETA, and the first of the weekend beta's participating in a stress test.  This is not a game preview or free trial.  You are in a beta.  See thats your problems.  You seem to think you are in some kind of free trial and thus treat it that way and then get worried, concerned, angry, and frustrated when the game doesnt run like a golden jewel. 

 

See here's a thought.  If the game ran perfectly and there were no problems wouldnt the game already be out?  Yea it would.  Why the heck would you even need a beta?  You'd have a release date at least. 

 

You are participating in a stress test and you are having some FPS problems.  Durrrrr. 

 

Repeat you are not playing a free trial.  You are playing the first weekend beta.  Sigh.....do try to keep that in mind.  I swear...

 

EDIT:  Id also like to add that people were trying to figure out why the game was "Sold out" the other day when Anet plainly stated they did so to limit the number of Beta users.  See why now?  Yea.....thought you might. 

But..but it is a beta.... lol..never gets old. 

Originally posted by Vortigon

"We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance."

The performance is still terrible - I would of thought they'd of made some tiny headway in this area.

Let's hope it's not CPU bound by release.

First of all it's "I would've thought" not I "I would of thought." Sorry, I'm just tired of seeing people make that mistake. You're saying "would have" and shortening it to "would've." It doesn't make sense the way you said it.

Second of all, the optimization will come. Remember the game is still a few months away from release. They do need to get on top of it, poor performance can really hurt this game's future. Especially when you have games like TERA, which is pretty crappy in comparisson but has great performance.

Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Vortigon

"We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance."

The performance is still terrible - I would of thought they'd of made some tiny headway in this area.

Let's hope it's not CPU bound by release.

well beta is about optimizing the client.

back up everyone

mr software development pro here

beta is just a stress test + way to get people to prepurchase. im sorry but a company that runs betas for 2 days is not really concerned about improving their game. a proper beta is what is happening with archeage-> no NDA,runs for heaps long, feedback and data is collected. you fanbois are all having your wallets emptied and you are unknowingly supporting crappy greedy business practices.

Originally posted by bishbosh

Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by Vortigon

"We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance."

The performance is still terrible - I would of thought they'd of made some tiny headway in this area.

Let's hope it's not CPU bound by release.

well beta is about optimizing the client.

back up everyone

mr software development pro here

 

beta is just a stress test + way to get people to prepurchase. im sorry but a company that runs betas for 2 days is not really concerned about improving their game. a proper beta is what is happening with archeage-> no NDA,runs for heaps long, feedback and data is collected. you fanbois are all having your wallets emptied and you are unknowingly supporting crappy greedy business practices.

GW2 has that beta running. We're just not invited to it. This is a beta weekend event, AKA a demo. Don't hate, Mr. Software Development Pro.

Did anyone actually read this?

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/news/Currently-Known-Issues/page/1#post23800

Hardware Compatibility

• Display: the graphics-settings slider has only a minor impact on performance at this time.
  • We are currently optimizing Guild Wars 2, making ongoing improvements to the game’s frame rate. Presently, the game is CPU-bound on most high-end systems, so lowering graphics settings or upgrading your video card may not have a large impact on performance.
  • On older or lower-end machines, it is recommended that you try disabling reflections to improve frame rate.

What is beta software?

After an initial round of in-house testing, software publishers often release new programs to be tested by the public. These pre-release versions are called beta software, usually denoted by a "b" in the version number, e.g., Firefox 3.1b2. Since the publisher cannot possibly test the software under all possible conditions, it is reasonable to expect that wider use of the software may uncover problems that were not discovered during in-house testing. The publisher expects to be notified when users find such problems so that the program can be fixed before its official release.

In general, you should expect to run into bugs whenever using any piece of beta software. These bugs may range in severity, from minor features that don't work to problems that cause your computer to crash. Before choosing to use a piece of beta software, you should decide whether the benefit of new features in a beta program outweighs the risk of program instability. You should also be aware that UITS does not thoroughly test beta software, nor will the software be guaranteed by its maker, so you should not expect the same level of support as you would receive for an official release version of the program.

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FROM: http://kb.iu.edu/data/agel.html

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Before a commercial software program is released to the public, it usually goes through a "beta" phase. During this stage, the software is tested for bugs, crashes, errors, inconsistencies, and any other problems. Though beta versions of software used to be made available only to developers, they are now sometimes made available for the general public to test, usually through the software company's Web site. However, because beta software is free, the programs usually expire after a period of time. If you choose to test a beta software program, don't be surprised if it has multiple problems and causes your computer to repeatedly crash. After all, it is the beta version. You can tell if a program is still in beta by checking the program's properties. If there is a "b" in the version number (i.e. Version: 1.2 b3) that means it's a beta version.

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FROM: http://www.techterms.com/definition/betasoftware

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Software in the beta phase will generally have many more bugs in it than completed software, as well as speed/performance issues.

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FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

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Many modern game developers may have started to use "beta's" as mere "demo's," but a real beta (which is what this is) is not a polished piece of bug-free software. There are bugs, there are glitches, there is a lack of optimization. This is how it works. If you're screaming "lame, this game sucks because this beta isn't perfect!" you are, quite frankly, ignorant at best, and a complete moron at worst.

Come back when the game releases, and if these problems still persist, you'll have something to talk about.

Originally posted by TGSOL

There are bugs, there are glitches, there is a lack of optimazation. This is how it works. If you're screaming "lame, this game sucks because this beta isn't perfect!" you are, quite frankly, ignorant at best, and a complete moron at worst.

 

Come back when the game releases, and if these problems still persist, you'll have something to talk about.

I said the same thing...except not as harsh.

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by TGSOL

There are bugs, there are glitches, there is a lack of optimazation. This is how it works. If you're screaming "lame, this game sucks because this beta isn't perfect!" you are, quite frankly, ignorant at best, and a complete moron at worst.

 

Come back when the game releases, and if these problems still persist, you'll have something to talk about.

I said the same thing...except not as harsh.

Yeah, it is a bit harsh... but note that I'm not talking about people merely complaining about the FPS or the like; I'm having FPS issues (as well as latency/lag problems) myself, and it certainly is frustrating.

I'm specifically referring to people who are saying that it sucks horribly, it's going to be the next WAR, and if you think otherwise you're a delusional fanboy, based solely off of the fact that this beta has some issues.

That's about as HERP DERP as one can get.

Originally posted by TGSOL

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by TGSOL

There are bugs, there are glitches, there is a lack of optimazation. This is how it works. If you're screaming "lame, this game sucks because this beta isn't perfect!" you are, quite frankly, ignorant at best, and a complete moron at worst.

 

Come back when the game releases, and if these problems still persist, you'll have something to talk about.

I said the same thing...except not as harsh.

Yeah, it is a bit harsh... but note that I'm not talking about people merely complaining about the FPS or the like; I'm having FPS issues (as well as latency/lag problems) myself, and it certainly is frustrating.

 

I'm specifically referring to people who are saying that it sucks horribly, it's going to be the next WAR, and if you think otherwise you're a delusional fanboy, based solely off of the fact that this beta has some issues.

 

That's about as HERP DERP as one can get.

That's the nature of the MMO beast. Now the Tera fans are trying to jump in and take over the MMO reigns but Tera really has nothing to offer that hasn't been done before. The only thing folks can say is "but it's pretty". I am sorry, pretty don't keep me playing. I think GW2 will be a great game at launched and people need to get in there and squash bugs to ensure it happens.

Most MMO's have these problems occur at Launch and had to fix them immediately , GW2 is having these problems on Beta Events that only last 3 days, they have months to fix at their leisure without pressure from Players.

Log in problems , Transfer problems are all problems that is finally addressed early on instead of on Launch.

Personally this morning, I do not have any FPS issues, its alot more smooth for me today compared to yesterday. Its definitely a wonderful feeling knowing that on Launch, we wouldn't be plagued by these problems.

Can't wait till BWE #2 , to see how much they improve after their initial feedback.

Something worth noting: while the "CPU-bound" aspect of the beta certainly has a big negative impact on frame rates, the game still shows signs of being well optimized; it loads up in only a few seconds (from the time I hit "Play" to the time I'm at the login screen takes only about 1-2 seconds), and it minimizes (alt-tabs) and maximizes back into fullscreen in less than a second. And my PC is rather dated (only a dual core processor, Geforce 9800 GT, etc.)

i5 2500,  GTX 570 and 8GB; no issues with fps so far this beta.

A stunning game. Glad I took the time to take part.

My 2 friend have a  similar pc build.

both got the i7 2500k and a gtx 570 and both of them does not have any framerate issue

me in other hands i got

a i7 950 with a gtx 570 and i got framerate issue sometime,

iam not to worry . iam sure everything will be optimized 

specialy the GPU. playing on a 32bit client is hard. i hope hey release a 64bit 1

Turn of this, force on that, disable those and then make a ram disk... What ever happened to Download, log-in and play?

This entire performace thing sounds JUST like what's going on in swtor. What makes it more concerning here, is that so much of their player base has already paid! What encientive do they have to optimize in a timely fashion? 

Originally posted by TGSOL

Something worth noting: while the "CPU-bound" aspect of the beta certainly has a big negative impact on frame rates, the game still shows signs of being well optimized; it loads up in only a few seconds (from the time I hit "Play" to the time I'm at the login screen takes only about 1-2 seconds), and it minimizes (alt-tabs) and maximizes back into fullscreen in less than a second. And my PC is rather dated (only a dual core processor, Geforce 9800 GT, etc.)

Now this is refreshing to here.

Originally posted by drazzah
JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS. THE GAME IS NOT OPTIMIZIED YET! I'm running crossfire 6970s and both GPUs only go to a max of 25% usage and runs most of the game off of your CPU. There is no way around this on Ultra Settings, you just have to wait for Anet to optimize the game better. This is just beta stage, so dont freak out about game play right now.

That's good news, thanks.  The next beta will probably run better.