Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Atlan99

It's like this in every mmo I've played.

Basically it comes down to this, you brought a knive to a gun fight."

Fortunately in GW2 every class has range attacks. So use them and use melee when it is appropriate.

DAOC didn't have this issue :)! (Thane vs Eldritch anyone?)

Everquest didn't have this issue :)! (Monk vs Wizard anyone?)

ShadowBane somewhat had this issue, but it depended on your build :D!

 

I'm worried that people are experiencing the wrong games :|!

Really? In larger scale PvP range owns. It's like that in very game. I just played DAOC and it was the same thing. 

From what I could stomach playing of DAOC, GW2 WvWvW trumps it in every way.

Originally posted by Redemp

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Atlan99

It's like this in every mmo I've played.

Basically it comes down to this, you brought a knive to a gun fight."

Fortunately in GW2 every class has range attacks. So use them and use melee when it is appropriate.

DAOC didn't have this issue :)! (Thane vs Eldritch anyone?)

 You apparently never played a Melee in a prolonged keep Seige .... Casters are all having fun on the wall, your twiddling your thumbs.

i dont really consider attacking a door in pvp as fun.pvp is player vs player,not player vs wall

but i guess if i end up joining it,and seeing a bunch of turds driving siege vehicles around and stuff.then im probably not even gonna bother playing guild wars 2,cuz thats one of the reasons why i hated pvping in wow

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

Originally posted by Redemp

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Atlan99

It's like this in every mmo I've played.

Basically it comes down to this, you brought a knive to a gun fight."

Fortunately in GW2 every class has range attacks. So use them and use melee when it is appropriate.

DAOC didn't have this issue :)! (Thane vs Eldritch anyone?)

 You apparently never played a Melee in a prolonged keep Seige .... Casters are all having fun on the wall, your twiddling your thumbs.

 

i dont really consider attacking walls as pvp.thats one of the things i disliked seeing in videos,i mean.my idea of pvp is fighting players,not fighting siege vehicles and walls

 

 You didn't read what you think you read....

Casters are on the walls -- Implies both sides are firing back and forth at each other from the walls and from the ground. Its a dance ... and in Daoc when this lasted longer than ten minutes... melee's twiddled their thumbs.

Atleast everyone here can Ranged.

so basically

melee dps is pretty pointless in this game.oh well,i guess theres always hope for tera to have good balanced pvp and not be a ranged fest

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

so basically

melee dps is pretty pointless in this game.oh well,i guess theres always hope for tera to have good balanced pvp and not be a ranged fest

 

 

Not pointless if you know how to play if you play a melee class like you do one on wow, then you die its that simple. If you can't handle that truth then best to just move on.

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

so basically

melee dps is pretty pointless in this game.oh well,i guess theres always hope for tera to have good balanced pvp and not be a ranged fest

 

 

Huh?

Where did you get that impression?

Melee seems to do the most damage currently, from my experience. My mate and I never have issues getting into melee ranged unless we are at a Seige. Then we pull our heads from our ass and realize its a castle seige, and he switchs to a bow.

Why am I responding to trolls?

Originally posted by atticusbc

despite my squishiness as a theif, i always go into melee because it does so much more damage.

EDIT: the gaurdian is a gaurdian. for what the class is supposed to do, it makes sense. same with the theif though in opposite way. if i'm in the same place i was 2 seconds ago, something's wrong.

how are thiefs anyway? dagger/dagger looked pretty fun.kinda like playing a rogue in Lineage 2,more mmos should of copied Lineage 2's rogue type,i enjoy it far better then the stealth types that mmos seem to be using nowadays

Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

Originally posted by atticusbc

despite my squishiness as a theif, i always go into melee because it does so much more damage.

EDIT: the gaurdian is a gaurdian. for what the class is supposed to do, it makes sense. same with the theif though in opposite way. if i'm in the same place i was 2 seconds ago, something's wrong.

 

how are thiefs anyway? dagger/dagger looked pretty fun.kinda like playing a rogue in Lineage 2,more mmos should of copied Lineage 2's rogue type,i enjoy it far better then the stealth types that mmos seem to be using nowadays

 

it's pretty cool you got a jumping move that breaks the gap between you and the target a move that flips over head hiting all monsters around and puts you behind the target i use that alot to dodge attacks umm has knife throw which does alot of dmg and a shadow move that puts you in stealth to get away if your dieing. It's dmg is pretty deadly and it's fast.

EDIT: The only bad part, but it's to be expected since it is a leather wearer is that it can die fast, so you have to stay out of the monsters hitting path.

I can see where people would feel like melee is at a disadvantage with range. I also from what I've been getting from my play time as thief that melee DPS does out shine the range in the actual speed you can put out the dps.

When in PVE at least I can really feel a difference between taking a mob down with melee when compared to range. It is alot more dangerous since you have to watch for mob abilities also but you do alot more meltface up close instead of ranging them for a bit.

/shrug

Sure there's some overall balancing to do still though.

Originally posted by Opapanax

I can see where people would feel like melee is at a disadvantage with range. I also from what I've been getting from my play time as thief that melee DPS does out shine the range in the actual speed you can put out the dps.

When in PVE at least I can really feel a difference between taking a mob down with melee when compared to range. It is alot more dangerous since you have to watch for mob abilities also but you do alot more meltface up close instead of ranging them for a bit.

/shrug

Sure there's some overall balancing to do still though.

I basically just use melee when i'm fighting trash mobs unless i get way out numbered then I pull out my bow and use it to take there numbers down some then I pull out my daggers again to finish the stragglers off. Also I use bow on storyline bosses because they hit so dang hard and usually get lucky with hits sometimes if I try and kite with melee, so I just use bow and kite to make it a little easier on myself.

Wait.... so melee classes in this game have animation lock while ranged classes can bunny hop and jump while using skills with no problem? isn't this going to be a kite fest?

Or do they also have animation lock?

I have to say... it's kinda ironic to see so many people defending this when 2 weeks they where all bashing Tera for having animation lock (like all action games do).

First of all, there are very few abilities that actually root you in place. The rest of them, even the ones that are channeled and have a casting time can be cast while moving.

Melee is a bit harder to master than ranged but it's not impossible. The thing that a lot of people don't understand, yet is that this game is made for you to switch weapons on the fly and it's not a good idea to be just melee or just ranged for most classes.

There are some really hard encounters though, like that shaman that wiped 30+ people, but most other encounters are not too hard at all. Keep in mind that this is beta and ANet is buisy gathering various metrics and things will change for release.

Edit: also, a lot of people seem to fail to grasp this concept but in GW2 you have to MOVE.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Atlan99

It's like this in every mmo I've played.

Basically it comes down to this, you brought a knive to a gun fight."

Fortunately in GW2 every class has range attacks. So use them and use melee when it is appropriate.

DAOC didn't have this issue :)! (Thane vs Eldritch anyone?)

Everquest didn't have this issue :)! (Monk vs Wizard anyone?)

ShadowBane somewhat had this issue, but it depended on your build :D!

 

I'm worried that people are experiencing the wrong games :|!

Really? In larger scale PvP range owns. It's like that in very game. I just played DAOC and it was the same thing. 

From what I could stomach playing of DAOC, GW2 WvWvW trumps it in every way.

 That's a pretty strong statement from someone who used to praise SWTOR and hate on GW2. I guess Anet must be doing something right. DAOC trumped in every way by GW2 WvWvW, that's saying something.

I think melee is fine for attacking, but yea the casted abilities probably should be spread out, not all on one weapon. I have only played the ranger and I have NEVER liked melee ranger until now.. but thats more because greatsword does way more damage than either bow.. my weapons are nearly the same lvl btw. So for me I liked the melee set up except for one thing.. damage from PVE. There needs to be less normal damage so that you dont die fighting normal attacks.. yes of course still dodge the big stuff that needs to stay, perhaps make them more noticable.. cast bars on the mobs would be nice so that its easier to see when there are alot of bodies.

I thought I should add that ranger greatsword only has a 3 string 1 ability and a bleed for attacks, otherwise its a charge/leap, counterattack and a stun from behind or daze.

oye MMORPG is dying.. its taken me 3 min+ to fix this typo!

Originally posted by spaceport

Wait.... so melee classes in this game have animation lock while ranged classes can bunny hop and jump while using skills with no problem? isn't this going to be a kite fest?

 

Or do they also have animation lock?

 

 

I have to say... it's kinda ironic to see so many people defending this when 2 weeks they where all bashing Tera for having animation lock (like all action games do).

there is no animation lock I think the OP is speaking of a stutter when you first use an ability.. or like how if your using an ability that is channeled you cant change abilities.. you can still move while channeling it though.