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Guild Wars 2 

General Discussion  » Ok, whats going on, how comes its so negative?? :O

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  xr00t3dx

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Joined: 12/25/11
Posts: 282

4/29/12 2:32:55 AM#101
Originally posted by LizardEgypt
Originally posted by Destai
In my opinion, this beta is in much better shape than many other games were in even during launch. Sure, there are issues, but they are actively being fixed. This is still part of the test phase and customers can actively give feedback. I logged on fully expecting issues - and there were a few - but that hasn't detracted my enjoyment of a very well done game. 

People say this every time - don't believe it. You'll always hear that a beta is better than most released games, meanwhile people with top of the line computers are having 15 frames per second and gameplay is deriative and exactly like previous MMORPGS.

I've got a almost top of the line PC and I'm running like glass. However, since the client is in no way optimized yet I would expect some people to have some issues.

  wrightstuf

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Joined: 8/12/09
Posts: 654

4/29/12 2:39:26 AM#102
Originally posted by aawaslover

The people who really enjoy the game are playing the game.

 

 

The people who don't log onto MMORPG to vent.

 

 

I am eating pizza. 

 

 

I don't know what that means.


If its pepperoni, you're post was very constructive. If it was with anchovies, then it was lame

hold up!..that's what's missing from GW2...a /pizza command!

  Blackwater56

Novice Member

Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 127

4/29/12 2:48:46 AM#103

Massive server issues + lots of lag = a bunch of bored people complaining on the forums.

 

And butthurt Biodrones, but that's a different story.

  wowfan1996

Novice Member

Joined: 9/25/09
Posts: 741

4/29/12 3:09:50 AM#104

Beta issues aside, there's a problem with expectations. People are looking for a perfect game, for some kind of MMO miracle that might never happen. Most MMOs aren't that different from each other. If you want something *really different* you should take a look at EVE, not at GW2.

I played several MMOs, they all had issues and I had fun despite those issues. The only thing I actually hated was gear progression grind. I'm quite sure GW2 will have issues too, even after launch. But most probably I'll enjoy the game nevertheless.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  Thodra

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Joined: 6/21/11
Posts: 341

4/29/12 3:29:31 AM#105
For those people who say this is just another theme park MMO. They should get spanked hard. There no way you can call this game a theme park. In gw2 you can do what ever you want. You go north and see what happens. Shame on the haters

  Nitth

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Joined: 7/29/10
Posts: 2457

Magic Propels my Rolly Chair.

4/29/12 3:49:00 AM#106


Originally posted by Thodra
For those people who say this is just another theme park MMO. They should get spanked hard. There no way you can call this game a theme park. In gw2 you can do what ever you want. You go north and see what happens. Shame on the haters

Can i stab an npc in the back because i dont agree with the choices hes presented me?


TSW - AoC - Aion - WOW - EVE - Fallen Earth - Co - Rift - || XNA C# Java Development

  zimboy69

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Joined: 3/09/08
Posts: 299

4/29/12 3:56:05 AM#107
Originally posted by Elikal

As one who didn't get in beta I am very surprised so much skeptical and negative opinions are here. I mean, I know no MMO is perfect, but for a first weekend the roses and daisies time surely was brief! Kinda surprised and I still try to sort out which opinion is more reliable. I am quite surprised tbh.

If you have a negative view or let down feeling, I would like to hear some substantial reasons. <.<  >.>  <.<  (No trolling please, real opinions.^^)

you know why ur only seeing negitive reviews because every one who is positive is  in  game and has much better things to do than come to the forum

 

just got in  so have fun

 

 

  NeoZcar2

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Joined: 3/08/12
Posts: 137

4/29/12 3:57:16 AM#108

Just remember this... There is about 500k people participating in the BWE.... There is about 12  people talking trash about the game.... Many with just outright bullshit lies.   "Top end computers getting 10fps" my ass..... I have a mid range processor and a 2 1/2 year old GTX 460 graphics card and I am running max settings at 66fps.  "Same old quest system" Bullshit... Only if you just stick to Heart quest hubs... Which BTW were put there for people who dont understand how to explore and discover hidden DEs and need the developers to hold their hand adn lead them to the next appropriate content.

 

Within the first 2 hours of the BWE I had hit lvl 6 on my Guardian and  finished the storyline up to lvl 11. I finished all the 1 - 11 heart quests, and began exploring in teh woods these giant lvl 11 walkign tree things that were really hard to solo. I at lvl 6 was running around soloing explorable hidden DEs designed for lvl 11's. I died when I wasnt careful but the design of their system is so unrestrictive and freeing. After a while I just began to farm mobbs because I was trying out different weapon and fighting styles.

 

Spent a while in V8 doing some awesome multi server PVP and that was a blast. Got rolled pretty hard a few times trying to play as melee before I realized you really absolutely have to use ranged attacks or pulls to stay out of the AOE fest where everyone dies instantly. INSANELY FUN!!!!

 

There were problems with the game, some graphical glitches, some voice over stuff where a persons voice was missing, some mobbs got bugged on terrain. All the normal Beta glitches... But overall I think the game has really lived up to many peoples expectations because these servers are just jam packed and this is already probably the largest Beta event I ahve seen in the last 12 years.  41 servers, All Fuil, every zone I step into I get put into an overflow server for that zone... We are talking about somewhere between 250k and 500k people who prepurchased this game all logged in all day long keeping these servers packed to teh brim and there is very littel almost no negativity in game other then people who think Melee are at a severe disadvantage which I might agree on actually.

 

No it isnt perfect, No it doesn't cure cancer, Yes it has everything that was promised, and Yes its extremely polished considering how far out from launch we probably are. Best BWE ever? I couldn't say. Biggest ever? Almost assuredly.

  wowfan1996

Novice Member

Joined: 9/25/09
Posts: 741

4/29/12 3:58:52 AM#109


Originally posted by NeoZcar2
There is about 500k people participating in the BWE...

Source?

Sorry, but judging by XFire numbers it's nowhere near 500k.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  jiveturkey12

Novice Member

Joined: 12/22/04
Posts: 1262

4/29/12 4:03:24 AM#110
Originally posted by NeoZcar2

Just remember this... There is about 500k people participating in the BWE.... There is about 12  people talking trash about the game.... Many with just outright bullshit lies.   "Top end computers getting 10fps" my ass..... I have a mid range processor and a 2 1/2 year old GTX 460 graphics card and I am running max settings at 66fps.  "Same old quest system" Bullshit... Only if you just stick to Heart quest hubs... Which BTW were put there for people who dont understand how to explore and discover hidden DEs and need the developers to hold their hand adn lead them to the next appropriate content.

 

Within the first 2 hours of the BWE I had hit lvl 6 on my Guardian and  finished the storyline up to lvl 11. I finished all the 1 - 11 heart quests, and began exploring in teh woods these giant lvl 11 walkign tree things that were really hard to solo. I at lvl 6 was running around soloing explorable hidden DEs designed for lvl 11's. I died when I wasnt careful but the design of their system is so unrestrictive and freeing. After a while I just began to farm mobbs because I was trying out different weapon and fighting styles.

 

Spent a while in V8 doing some awesome multi server PVP and that was a blast. Got rolled pretty hard a few times trying to play as melee before I realized you really absolutely have to use ranged attacks or pulls to stay out of the AOE fest where everyone dies instantly. INSANELY FUN!!!!

 

There were problems with the game, some graphical glitches, some voice over stuff where a persons voice was missing, some mobbs got bugged on terrain. All the normal Beta glitches... But overall I think the game has really lived up to many peoples expectations because these servers are just jam packed and this is already probably the largest Beta event I ahve seen in the last 12 years.  41 servers, All Fuil, every zone I step into I get put into an overflow server for that zone... We are talking about somewhere between 250k and 500k people who prepurchased this game all logged in all day long keeping these servers packed to teh brim and there is very littel almost no negativity in game other then people who think Melee are at a severe disadvantage which I might agree on actually.

 

No it isnt perfect, No it doesn't cure cancer, Yes it has everything that was promised, and Yes its extremely polished considering how far out from launch we probably are. Best BWE ever? I couldn't say. Biggest ever? Almost assuredly.


Thank you! +1 for this post, if anyone wants to know whats ACTUALLY going on with GW2, pay attention to this guy because unlike alot of the other posts hes presenting the information in a non-biased way that is an over-reaction. Posts like "Worst Beta EVER" and the rest are just silly. If thats someones opinion i agree they should have it, but they dont need to act like guild wars 2 and Anet tricked them or wronged them as this is one of the most geniune mmo's out there at the moment from the graphics to the gameplay. Note im saying genuine, meaning you can tell they didnt just copy and paste ideas from other mmos that worked, they have developed systems of their own that havent been tested. This is game taking a risk, and whether or not you think its payed off is one thing, but dont make this into something its not.

  NeoZcar2

Novice Member

Joined: 3/08/12
Posts: 137

4/29/12 4:04:39 AM#111
based on X-Fire? really you mean that site that less then 5% of the MMORPG community uses,  Are you kidding?  
  Teekay

Novice Member

Joined: 9/14/10
Posts: 97

4/29/12 4:13:36 AM#112

My only annoyance is....

This is only beta, and anything i do is inconsiquential, ie: it will be wiped (understandable)

Wife played it for the first time, and she has a high standard of games (low attention span for grinds), and she was actually keen to get on and play her thief all day.

I tried some WvW, and the pvp was fun, had some nice 2v2s, 1v1s, felt smooth tbh, and involved alot of coordination/ability timing.

I don't know what people are saying about low fps. I was in the city/WvW/ lions den and was it was packed, I had 0 slow down/lag. Ran amazingly well on max everything. My friend on vent who is using a piece of shit rig said he was noticing hadly any slow down.

Has anyone see how much detail they put in the city? the Mural in the commerce room is a colour gradient??

Little touches make it. The fact this game is B2P.....simply amazing.

 

ONLY thing...they need to make it so you can select the overflow server.

  palulalula

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Joined: 9/07/11
Posts: 609

4/29/12 4:33:54 AM#113
Ok, no real story, no mounts, funy looking characters, boring pvp, average graphic. Simple words -there is no soul in this mmo and i am so angry at me that i prepurchased this game.  I think i will never learn, i should wait for some time before i buy
  MisterSr

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Joined: 6/16/07
Posts: 908

Nothing surprises me these days, luckily I am getting into the industry to create my own surprises.

4/29/12 4:37:04 AM#114
People who claim performance is bad, I have no idea what they're talking about--besides some server overload issues where I couldn't get in. Other than that it's been smooth sailing for me 40-60 FPS, 40 when there is a large crowd of folks. I'm playing with all the bells and whistles too, doing just dandy. The reason people are complaining is because they've mistaken GW2 limited beta as an open beta, went in expecting to see a fully polished game and instead got, as the mini-movies in the personal story state, "a work in progress". "But that's not what I wanted!" they will exclaim, well tough cookies kiddo is what I have to say to them. The FAQ section even states, "There will be a beta once a month", which you can almost derive from that there will be multiple months of beta testing. The game is months from release people, what did you expect? And no it is not coming out just because Gamestop said June 26th, they are not Arena Net--get out of my face with that rubbish! I am estimating a late July early August beta at best--October or November at worst. I personally have enjoyed my time in game, with only a few dull moments--and the complaints I've made on these forums about lack of chatter, well they're null and void after this evening. I was met with a surprising torrent of word exchange this evening, and I must say the community overall seemed very mature, I was satisfied. I came into the beta with realistic expectations, and all those expectations were met and then exceeded in certain regards. I will not be asking for a refund--I'm satisfied. :)
  zenryoku

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Joined: 3/17/07
Posts: 133

4/29/12 4:40:36 AM#115

Some people like to complain just for the sake of complaining. They will pick the smallest thing and blow it way out of proportion. 

I for one am really enjoying Guild Wars 2; it's pretty much what I was expecting and not much about it is a disappointment. At the end of the day if you like it, then I'll see you there. If not, stop complaining and just quit and move on with your life.

  Nethriil

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Joined: 3/28/12
Posts: 185

4/29/12 4:41:00 AM#116
Its been hyped as the second coming. Ofcourse it will disapoint many.
  Skymourne

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4/29/12 4:43:21 AM#117
Originally posted by zenryoku

Some people like to complain just for the sake of complaining. They will pick the smallest thing and blow it way out of proportion. 

I for one am really enjoying Guild Wars 2; it's pretty much what I was expecting and not much about it is a disappointment. At the end of the day if you like it, then I'll see you there. If not, stop complaining and just quit and move on with your life.

quote of the day. thank you.

  KonyakZero

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4/29/12 4:48:53 AM#118

The reason that a lot of people are negative is because they have a sense of entitlement and a serious god complex. They think that this beta should work perfectly for them without any problems because it's THEY that are playing the game. That's just performance issues.

As for the actual gameplay. Only people who don't like the features are the ones that like "old" style MMOs(not really old but WoW and the MMOs following it). And cynical people. Though, I'm the most cynical person here(especially about life in general) so I guess they don't really have an excuse in the first place.

Overall, I personally don't care what these people say. You shouldn't care about their negativity either. They're irrelevant.

  tixylix

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4/29/12 5:03:06 AM#119

Why do people hate on the people who are complaining about the game in beta? It's kind of the whole point of a beta to see the problems and if people were not vocal about them then they'd never know and it would never get fixed. You're going to get people complaining about issues on forums, the developers need to hear the feedback, if you don't like it then don't come to forums and stay chatting about the game in game.

 

  heartless

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

4/29/12 5:10:46 AM#120

Personally, I love the game. I played it past the starting areas and past level 10. I tried all of the classes. I tried PvP and PvE. In my opinion, various beta related issues aside, GW2 simply is a really good game. It has lots of content and really fun classes. Fast and brutal combat that is really rewarding once you get past the "spam all the things!" phase and actually learn how to play. It is the only MMO in a long time where you actually explore and find some cool shit. There is always stuff going on and the world feels alive. And it has no monthly fee on top of all that!

I just wish that the BWE wasn't ending so soon...

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