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Beta Weekend Event Reviews & Impressions (Archived)  » Haven't been able to play at all!!! CRASH issues.

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  Marisalam

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Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/28/12 7:51:27 PM#21

Ok I guess everybody is playing now =( it looks that the beta is back online. I've run a mem test and everything is ok.

I've put the game in another partition of the hard disk. 

I still have the memory error. So I guess that is realy about the VRAM. I only hope that I'll be able to find a video card required and compatible with the pc of my son.

  srps

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Joined: 12/02/09
Posts: 116

4/28/12 9:15:55 PM#22

If you tell us the specs of the computer it should be pretty easy to find you one. I suppose they're both desktop computers, so we just need to know whether the motherboard has an AGP or PCIe slot.

Use this tool to find out both computers' specs:

 

http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard

 

just save a snapshot of the initial window, the "summary" and post here.

  Marisalam

Novice Member

Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/29/12 3:35:56 PM#23

Thanks, very easy with that program =)

So here it is. It's in french though I don't supposed it will make a big difference.

This is for my son's PC, his a desktop but mine's a laptop  so i don't know if I would be able to change the video card?

Système d'exploitation

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1

Processeur 

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300  @ 1.80GHz 48 °C

Technologie Conroe 65nm

RAM

2,00 Go DDR2

Carte mère

Dell Inc. 0WG864 (Microprocessor)

Graphiques

DELL E207WFP (1680x1050@59Hz)

Intel(R)  G965 Express Chipset Family

Intel(R)  G965 Express Chipset Family

Disques durs 

244 Go Seagate ST3250820AS (RAID) 39 °C

Disques optiques

TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H653A

Audio

Périphérique High Definition Audio

 

I'll comme back to put the information about my laptop ( just in case)

Thank you again for your help 

  Marisalam

Novice Member

Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/29/12 3:48:27 PM#24

Here it is for my laptop:

 

Système d'exploitation

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1

Processeur

Intel Pentium T4200  @ 2.00GHz 45 °C

Technologie Penryn 45nm

RAM

3,00 Go Canal-Double DDR2 @ 398 MHz (6-6-6-18)

Carte mère

Dell Inc. 0G848F (Microprocessor) 54 °C

Graphiques

Moniteur Plug-and-Play générique (1366x768@60Hz)

Famille de jeu de puces Express Mobile Intel(R) 45 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)

Famille de jeu de puces Express Mobile Intel(R) 45 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)

Disques durs

156 Go Seagate ST9160310AS ATA Device (SATA) 38 °C

Disques optiques

TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L633C ATA Device

Audio

Périphérique High Definition Audio

Hope there's gonna be something to do =(  My son finaly got feedback from the GW2 Support and they said that effectively we might have to change the video card. 

Since I already purchased the game twice ( me and my son)  I won't have other choice than  find a solution for us beeing able to play. =(  I guess that my gap in comprehension the information about the minimum require specifications is to blame. 

Hope there's gonna be somethi

  Amjoco

Elite Member

Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4788

4/29/12 4:24:14 PM#25
I'm not a computer geek but those processors are pretty minimal. If currently the beta isn't using much of the video cards and relying heavily on the processor, this may lead to a few of your problems. I'm sorry I wish i new more. I'm sure someone will have way more help than I can give you. 

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Marisalam

Novice Member

Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/29/12 4:36:11 PM#26
Originally posted by Amjoco
I'm not a computer geek but those processors are pretty minimal. If currently the beta isn't using much of the video cards and relying heavily on the processor, this may lead to a few of your problems. I'm sorry I wish i new more. I'm sure someone will have way more help than I can give you. 

Yes I know I will have to put some money into that, but I hope I would be able to change the video card and make the necessery changes at the lower cost as possible =( I haven't expect that getting addicted to Guild Wars would cost me as much!! XD

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4788

4/29/12 4:53:00 PM#27
I think Quizzical has a vast amount of hardware knowledge and may be able to help you. You may want to PM him.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Marisalam

Novice Member

Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/29/12 5:08:12 PM#28
Originally posted by Amjoco
I think Quizzical has a vast amount of hardware knowledge and may be able to help you. You may want to PM him.

Thanks, it's done.

 

As they say: Where there is life... there is hope! 

  Quizzical

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Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 14469

4/29/12 6:24:40 PM#29
Originally posted by Marisalam

Intel(R)  G965 Express Chipset Family

That's a big problem, which you probably already knew.  Intel integrated graphics chips are very weak, and have terrible drivers.  And that's now that Intel is at least pretending to care about graphical performance.  Several years ago, it was much, much worse.  And then add in several years worth of obsolescence and what's remarkable is when games are playable at all, not when they aren't.

If you add a new video card, you could probably at least make the game playable.  But it's not necessarily so simple as just add a video card and you're done.  Can the old power supply handle the additional load of a new video card?  Maybe, maybe not.  Can the case dissipate the extra heat?  Maybe, maybe not.  Conroe didn't use very much power, so with a low power video card, you'd probably be fine.  But if you're not, then you might end up frying things.

And the processor will be a problem, too, as it's below the minimum system requirements.  That's probably a "choppy frame rates at minimum settings" type of problem, and not a "game won't run" type of problem.  If there's a BIOS update for your motherboard, you might be able to upgrade to a ~3 GHz Wolfdale Pentium dual core processor, which would at least be enough to handle Guild Wars 2.

2 GB of system memory is also cutting it tight.  Will that be enough for GW2?  If you don't have any bloatware and are aggressive about shutting down background programs, then probably.  But not necessarily.

The processor is nearly 6 years old.  I don't know when you bought the computer, but if you bought it "only" four years ago, then you made some peculiar choices.  The hard drive is probably old enough that at minimum, you should be doing backups aggressively if it has any data that you care about.  It's not likely that you've got other really nice components in the machine, either.

So could you upgrade the machine to be able to handle Guild Wars 2?  Probably.  But that probably isn't the best route to go.  At some point, you have to take an old computer and say, it's had a nice life, and now it's time to retire it from gaming use.  Most of the upgrades you might get for the computer would have to be scrapped when you do replace it outright in the fairly near future, anyway.

The good news is that a new gaming computer doesn't have to cost as much as you might think.  In the US, you can get a functional gaming desktop for $500 excluding peripherals, or avoid any flagrantly cut corners for $600.  Obviously, more money can get you something better, but that's all you need to not have to worry about whether games will be playable for a few years.  If you're not in the US, then convert that to your local currency and add taxes.

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As for the laptop, there's no hope there.  You've got some very old Intel integrated graphics, and no way to add a discrete card.  You can use the laptop for whatever you need a laptop for, but not for a lot of games.

  Marisalam

Novice Member

Joined: 4/28/12
Posts: 17

 
OP  4/29/12 9:37:45 PM#30

Thank you for your fast answer, it is quite appreciated.

You just confirmed what I thought. Obviously, yes I have bought of the pc approximatively 5 years ago so I know there kind of old for computers  both my pc and laptop. But it was still working well for our needs, till now.

I guess that leaves me may be few weeks before the release of GW2. If I had known better before would I have buy this game!? Don't know. But now it's done and it was a birthday gift to my son. =( So I guess that doesn't leave me many choices.

I understand that even if I change the video card it may be a difficult path, in french we would say " de l'économie de bout de chandelle" and finally be back at my start point in a year with a computer not good enough.

Thank you for your help and have taking some of your time to read and answer me.

I'm kind of sad now, but hey.... that's life! Next time if I don't trully understand "minimal requirements" I'll ask questions first.

Marie

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