Originally posted by EvilGeek

Once you unlock weapon swapping and have the skills unlocked it becomes a completely different play experience. OP I think you should give it a chance and unlock more skills and weapon swapping (lvl 7 I believe that happens), it really does change the experience, there's a learning curve there but it's not steep.

Weapon swapping is level 7.

I personally find the combat to be quite fun but you do have to find the combo of weapons that fits you and that means a lot of unfun unlocking of the weapon skills which usually takes me to about level 6-7.

Take the guardian (my current class).  I'm combining the greatsword with a scepter + focus combo. The greatsword has the gap closer, plus the aoe pull enemies to me ability and has a nice aoe attack.  I can combine that with the ice sword skill (2 skill points) which attacks your enemies and has an on use aoe ability.  That takes care of any weak packs of enemies.

Then for tough enemies I swap over to the scepter + focus and dodge about using those weapons to bring my enemy down.  My dodging isn't great because playing from asia with 300+ latency, but its good enough to avoid most big enemies one-shot attacks.

Originally posted by Rivalen

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

- the game is heavy instanced, the "pve world" is not open world.. like i said i manage to get my char to lev5 orso and i encountered like 7/8 instances..

 

Can you do us a favor and list these instance occurances for us? Because the map indicates there is one zone (not instance) for levels 1-15 for each of the races, and I did not experience a single loading screen barrier whilst playing in that zone for either race.

I think he might be talking about the personal story mode.

Also, don't agree in most things but that's fine.

but the idea was that personal story was to be instanced lol so why complain about it when it comes into the game lol plus they have always said it was going to be pve and pvp not a pvx world lol so isnt it just a lack of info going into the game, rather than coming out all disheartened

Originally posted by DanitaKusor

Originally posted by EvilGeek

Once you unlock weapon swapping and have the skills unlocked it becomes a completely different play experience. OP I think you should give it a chance and unlock more skills and weapon swapping (lvl 7 I believe that happens), it really does change the experience, there's a learning curve there but it's not steep.

Weapon swapping is level 7.

I personally find the combat to be quite fun but you do have to find the combo of weapons that fits you and that means a lot of unfun unlocking of the weapon skills which usually takes me to about level 6-7.

Take the guardian (my current class).  I'm combining the greatsword with a scepter + focus combo. The greatsword has the gap closer, plus the aoe pull enemies to me ability and has a nice aoe attack.  I can combine that with the ice sword skill (2 skill points) which attacks your enemies and has an on use aoe ability.  That takes care of any weak packs of enemies.

Then for tough enemies I swap over to the scepter + focus and dodge about using those weapons to bring my enemy down.  My dodging isn't great because playing from asia with 300+ latency, but its good enough to avoid most big enemies one-shot attacks.

hehe on my ranger i stick to longbow as my main, but then for a quick bash of close quarters moves i move to one handed sword and a warhorn, then rinse and repeat, i enoy it much, plus getting used to dodging and moving has been a great experiance 

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by Snoepie
 * few valid points *

This is a good side game for me..but sadly it will not replace darkfall..

LMAO.

Nothing will replace Darkfall if you want a game where the PVP had any sort of weight or perpose to it. I'm tired of this instanced pvp, if I want that I'll play Dota. I want a real game world people, not this instanced teleporting theme park crap. As for the kid laughing at Darkfall, you can laugh at it's sucess, but it was the last attempt at a real MMORPG i've seen. Guild Wars 2 is not an MMO.

Who are you from Darkfall? I've been playing Darkfall since beta but quit a few months ago and am considering picking up GW2 to get back into MMOs.. Really would like to try the beta weekend though >.<

Originally posted by Snoepie

This is a good side game for me..but sadly it will not replace darkfall..

...Obviously this game isn't anything like Darkfall. Guild Wars and Darkfall are not similar at all beyond being fantasy-themed MMORPGs.

Originally posted by mmorpgmaner

Who are you from Darkfall? I've been playing Darkfall since beta but quit a few months ago and am considering picking up GW2 to get back into MMOs.. Really would like to try the beta weekend though >.<

I was Echelon Cocytus, in beta I was in some small guild allied with Hyperion (Hilarious) and in NA server I was in Dominion until I quit a few months ago, can't deal with the ray cycling and rampant cheating now. It had it's prime but it's over unless this 2.0 messiah is anything worth a damn.

If you were asking the OP who he was, I don't know. ^^

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

- the game is heavy instanced, the "pve world" is not open world.. like i said i manage to get my char to lev5 orso and i encountered like 7/8 instances..

 

Can you do us a favor and list these instance occurances for us? Because the map indicates there is one zone (not instance) for levels 1-15 for each of the races, and I did not experience a single loading screen barrier whilst playing in that zone for either race.

You create a character, for example a human, you enter the game world, are told to talk to an npc, who tells you to go to the inn, you go to the inn, the npc there tells you to go to someone else, you go over there, event starts, you kill mobs, advance event, kill mobs, and are transported from that instance to another one (loading screen number 1), you go outside, talk to an npc, view the map, go to where there is stuff to do, kill mobs, get mail, which tells to go see someone, and you have to change zone and enter a city (loading screen number 2), run through it and change zone into another area to talk to the npc from the mail (loading screen number 3). And that is just in the first 2/3 levels of play, which takes all of 15/20 minutes, if that.

If you claim you did not experience a single loading screen, then I have to call BS.

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

p.s. im not sure how the guild vs guild works.. i have not experienced it yet

 

And you won't. 

Originally posted by Byrhofen

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

- the game is heavy instanced, the "pve world" is not open world.. like i said i manage to get my char to lev5 orso and i encountered like 7/8 instances..

 

Can you do us a favor and list these instance occurances for us? Because the map indicates there is one zone (not instance) for levels 1-15 for each of the races, and I did not experience a single loading screen barrier whilst playing in that zone for either race.

You create a character, for example a human, you enter the game world, are told to talk to an npc, who tells you to go to the inn, you go to the inn, the npc there tells you to go to someone else, you go over there, event starts, you kill mobs, advance event, kill mobs, and are transported from that instance to another one (loading screen number 1), you go outside, talk to an npc, view the map, go to where there is stuff to do, kill mobs, get mail, which tells to go see someone, and you have to change zone and enter a city (loading screen number 2), run through it and change zone into another area to talk to the npc from the mail (loading screen number 3). And that is just in the first 2/3 levels of play, which takes all of 15/20 minutes, if that.

If you claim you did not experience a single loading screen, then I have to call BS.

And I've played so far to level 11 and have no idea what you're talking about unless it's your personal story.  I didn't experience any instances beyond that up to this point.  Perhaps there's some confusion as to what an INSTANCE is, because Queensdale (the human starting zone) doesn't have any "instances" and that is where the quests ARE except for not all of your personal story.  Your personal story has multiple instances in it.

Originally posted by Uronksur

Originally posted by Snoepie

This is a good side game for me..but sadly it will not replace darkfall..

...Obviously this game isn't anything like Darkfall. Guild Wars and Darkfall are not similar at all beyond being fantasy-themed MMORPGs.

PvP oriented mmos are hard to find, almost all mmos are pve with pvp added just to fulfill a feature slot

Originally posted by Satcho

Originally posted by aesperus

On the one hand, they had to do a certain amount of handholding on the front end for the game, or people just won't get it. On the other, people are basing the entire game off of that hand-holding, not understanding that it basically there as a tutorial.

 Isn't that basically what every GW2 fan complained about when bashing Tera's starting island?

I played TERA 3 times in 3 different CBTs.  The first play through on the island was tolerable and somewhat fun.  But the 2nd and 3rd time doing the exact same fetch quest missions got boring fast. To the point I cant play the game because I cant get through that starter island for the first 10 or so levels.  I start then the 'Been there, done that' sets in and interest is lost.

I had the same fear with GW2.  If I played what I wanted to use at release in beta, I was afraid that the content would be boring and I wouldnt want to play through it again.  But having put in like 8-10 hours in the beta I can now see how I WONT have that problem.  There are so many different things to do I can easily see each experience as being different - even though I would have to do the same personal stories.  There is enough 'randomness' to allow multiple playthroughs in the same zone.

Hell, I havent even found out how to get to the next adjacent zone and Im having a ball looking for it.

To me, thats the sign of a good game.

Originally posted by rainorxx
I know it´s just a beta, but I'm disappointed. I think TERA is far better than GW2.

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by rainorxx
I know it´s just a beta, but I'm disappointed. I think TERA is far better than GW2.

GW2 definitely not for everyone.  You have to let go of what you beleive an MMO to be.  Have fun in TERA!

Originally posted by just1opinion

Originally posted by Byrhofen

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

- the game is heavy instanced, the "pve world" is not open world.. like i said i manage to get my char to lev5 orso and i encountered like 7/8 instances..

 

Can you do us a favor and list these instance occurances for us? Because the map indicates there is one zone (not instance) for levels 1-15 for each of the races, and I did not experience a single loading screen barrier whilst playing in that zone for either race.

You create a character, for example a human, you enter the game world, are told to talk to an npc, who tells you to go to the inn, you go to the inn, the npc there tells you to go to someone else, you go over there, event starts, you kill mobs, advance event, kill mobs, and are transported from that instance to another one (loading screen number 1), you go outside, talk to an npc, view the map, go to where there is stuff to do, kill mobs, get mail, which tells to go see someone, and you have to change zone and enter a city (loading screen number 2), run through it and change zone into another area to talk to the npc from the mail (loading screen number 3). And that is just in the first 2/3 levels of play, which takes all of 15/20 minutes, if that.

If you claim you did not experience a single loading screen, then I have to call BS.

 

And I've played so far to level 11 and have no idea what you're talking about unless it's your personal story.  I didn't experience any instances beyond that up to this point.  Perhaps there's some confusion as to what an INSTANCE is, because Queensdale (the human starting zone) doesn't have any "instances" and that is where the quests ARE except for not all of your personal story.  Your personal story has multiple instances in it.

 

 

I guess if you watch this video which shows the part of my post up to the first loading screen (at 13.45 in the video) you will still have no idea about it will you.

Originally posted by darkhalf357x

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by rainorxx
I know it´s just a beta, but I'm disappointed. I think TERA is far better than GW2.

GW2 definitely not for everyone.  You have to let go of what you beleive an MMO to be.  Have fun in TERA!

I'm not everyone. And I bought both games. Hope GW2 improve until the release.

Originally posted by Snoepie

- combat is more hack and slash then brainpowah, this is a very frustating to me.. GW1 was way better if we are talking about making decisions of usage of spells and counterspells

 

 

 

What class did you play? i played a thief and there is no way you could hack&slash with it. You need more than 5 level to even begin to grasp the combat and movement, i'm sorry i can't take your comment seriously, you don't even have your 3 first skills at level 5.