So my experience with MMOs is quite limited. Partly due to my internet connection. My first and only MMO thus far is WoW. It runs great (30 to 35 fps...which I don't notice anything past that)...and even on dial-up it runs just fine. I live in the desert, outside San Diego. So, my internet is limited to dial-up or satellite.

Anyway...my major problem is that the game (I was able to test it briefly on a friends account), because of the huge battles and large cities...is it doesn't seem like it will be that great on my slow connection. I'm not sure if this is true, as I have not tested this...but this will put me off the game. As far as I'm aware, GW2 does not have instanced arena or battlegrounds like WoW does.

The events for PvE are also large. Again, I'm not sure how it will do with my connection. But, for people with low connections, this will only slow down their game.

I do give it credit...the human city and charr city are AMAZING. Best cities of any game, ever. They aren't small towns that the developers mistakingly call "cities"...these are actual cities.

Another credit goes to the music and ambience...really top notch.

The Engineer class is a lot of fun. I enjoyed the turrets and what not, and the Charr is an amazing race. Really like their city, too.

However, I'll need to buy a new PC (as I have to turn everything down on low in just WoW and that is the least extensive MMO out there), to play GW2. But sadly, I just don't have the cash.

TLDR - Due to lack of money and GW2 requiring a higher end PC, I won't be buying it

Can anyone address the instancing and closed in feeling parts? I'm very curious about that.

Originally posted by Isasis

I went into GW2 beta knowing I was not going to like it. But, I wanted to go in so I can experience it for myself, that way I don't go around randomly hating something without even trying it.

 

You realize those two sentences are completely contradictory, right? I mean, if you randomly know you're going to hate something, then you're going to make yoruself hate it.

Anyway, you have fair points about DEs, but other than that nothing is actually referring to gameplay.

I deem your opinion 90% worthless.

you went in expecting to hate it and came out hating it... well damn, surprise surprise.

even if you weren't particularly feeling it, the point is going in with an open mind. you've biased your judgement and frankly your little write up here loses almost all of its objective quality for it.

Except for....you purchased a copy of the game to play in the beta....If you knew you weren't going to like it...why would you buy the game just to play in the beta to 'experience' it for yourself....Rather than just wait for release?  Unless, of course, you've been highly anticipating a chance to play this game like everyone else who bought into the beta....

Well, at least, unlike the other MMO's you've purchased even though you knew you wouldn't like them, you won't have to pay a monthly fee to play it....it is now yours and you can pick it up and play it any time you like, or not...It's up to you.

Originally posted by adam_nox

Can anyone address the instancing and closed in feeling parts? I'm very curious about that.

While i don't have first hand knowledge. From the live feeds i have been watching, it does seem that GW2 is loadscreen heavy. What i did notice though was that they only took about 3 to 7 sec on most compared to almost 30 sec to a minute in TOR. How that makes the world feel closed in, not really sure.

'The playerbase, at least in beta, is probably the worst I've seen. Not much to say here, but full of trolls and memes and people going "lol swtor is so much better than this"...I guess that is the new thing, instead of "WoW is better" that I always saw in previous MMO releases, in this it is SWTOR.'

This realy made my day, Do you realy play the game ? I dont believe you. Becouse seriously for severals hours i played gw2 havent seen one comment like this.

Do you know what intrigues me so far, after playing GW2 for 6-7 hours? I haven't heard a single comment about other MMORPGs. Only one time I have heard someone say "wow clone" and that was right after the start of the BWE.

Originally posted by Malevil

'The playerbase, at least in beta, is probably the worst I've seen. Not much to say here, but full of trolls and memes and people going "lol swtor is so much better than this"...I guess that is the new thing, instead of "WoW is better" that I always saw in previous MMO releases, in this it is SWTOR.'

This realy mad my day, Do you realy play the game ? I dont believe you. Becouse seriously for severals hours i played gw2 havent seen one comment like this.

What kind of thoughtless hive-mind response is that?  Have you logged on to every server?  Do you know what chat is going on in every zone?  I don't think so.  Some servers are going to be good and others are going to suck, just like in every other game with servers.

Originally posted by Alot

Do you know what intrigues me so far, after playing GW2 for 6-7 hours? I haven't heard a single comment about other MMORPGs. Only one time I have heard someone say "wow clone" and that was right after the start of the BWE.

yeah, complete opposite experience the OP (apparently) had. everyone seems helpful, polite, and there's no trash talking/10 year olds in the local chat

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Malevil

'The playerbase, at least in beta, is probably the worst I've seen. Not much to say here, but full of trolls and memes and people going "lol swtor is so much better than this"...I guess that is the new thing, instead of "WoW is better" that I always saw in previous MMO releases, in this it is SWTOR.'

This realy mad my day, Do you realy play the game ? I dont believe you. Becouse seriously for severals hours i played gw2 havent seen one comment like this.

What kind of thoughtless hive-mind response is that?  Have you logged on to every server?  Do you know what chat is going on in every zone?  I don't think so.  Some servers are going to be good and others are going to suck, just like in every other game with servers.

Did he logged so he can say what he said ? My experience is completly different. He is either troll or dumb to buy game he knows he will not like. Btw there is no general chat in gw2, so there are limited oiption for ppl to  troll in game, thats why i think he completly made up his post.

Originally posted by Sythion

Originally posted by Isasis

I went into GW2 beta knowing I was not going to like it. But, I wanted to go in so I can experience it for myself, that way I don't go around randomly hating something without even trying it.

 

You realize those two sentences are completely contradictory, right? I mean, if you randomly know you're going to hate something, then you're going to make yoruself hate it.

Anyway, you have fair points about DEs, but other than that nothing is actually referring to gameplay.

I deem your opinion 90% worthless.

I've gone into betas and trials "knowing" I'd hate the game and come out actually liking or loving the game. Most recently Tera. His statement...no matter what percentage of worthlessness you deem it to contain...is still valid. In his case ..he still hated the game after he tried it out.

I plan on trying GW2.....right now...I have no expectations so I'll just have to see how it goes.

I'm not sure how far the OP has gotten but I am level 5-8 on multiple characters right now and I do not feel the world is closed in at all.

Character creation is nice.  I don't think there are to many "ugly' choices you can pick that really make you hate looking at your character.

Graphics are really awesome in my opinion.  The details are really nice I actually stopped and had to look at a giant bull in the norn area with a cart on it's back the details were amazing.  The cities are ridiculous in terms of graphic design and the size.  I was looking far off into the human city and was like there is no way the city is this big so I ran all the way from one end to the other and sure as hell it was actually that big.  The one down fall so far in the graphic department I'd say is the animations for the spells.  They are lackluster.  Now I also don't have that many skills unlocked and I don't expect to be seeing epic skill graphics at level 8 otherwise what would you expect for level 80?

Personal Story is ok.  It doesn't have the story telling say ToR had but it's also quite a bit better then most of the other MMO's out to date.  The voice acting is "meh' but it is still pretty decent.  A lot of people I have seen complaining that they have no idea what is going on in the game are the people who are skipping the quest dialogues or just not paying attention.  Nothing amazing here but it does OK.

Combat is really hard to judge this early in the game.  Literally I have only my first few spells 1-6 and F1 on all the characters I've played.  So you’re just basically spamming your abilities right now.  I will say that learning how to use the dodge mechanic is something that will take getting use to.  I died a few times in Dynamic Event fights because I was just trying to stand there spamming abilities (you can move and cast anything in the game).  It has a lot of promise I think and will be especially nice in the PvP and WvWvW side of the game.  I honestly enjoyed it but some people hate that it's tab target unlike say Tera Online.  

Dynamic Events are awesome in my opinion.  Yeah, sure they are like Rifts, Public Events (from warhammer), etc. but I enjoy how I can literally just be helping out around town and I get a message saying "new event" and you have 20 centaurs running at you trying to get over your garrison.  Being everyone is just starting the areas get cluttered relatively quickly since the Dynamic Event is adjusted based off of how many people are in the event area but this won't be as much of a problem when people start becoming spread out.

It's a beta there has been people reporting lag issues and performance issues.  I have a pretty high end machine I have everything maxed out and I have not suffered any of the issues some have described on the forums.  My wife has a middle end machine (i7-920, Nvidia 295GTX, 4gb ram), and also had no issues what so ever.  We both have the most up to date drivers by Nvidia (march 13th) and both have had zero disconnects (using Verizon fios 50 up 50 down) and almost zero FPS issues other then my wife having a few FPS drops in PVP nothing major but I did notice when I watched her play.

Personally, I find it pretty discouraging reading people on the forums bashing the game so badly and others basically saying it's perfect.  It's neither terrible nor perfect (nothing ever will be) at this point.  So far it's been a smooth beta after they took the servers down for 30 minutes and I love the fact that I haven't really care about my level or anything I have just been running around with my wife and enjoying the events and questing.  As with most new games I'd wait until the dust settles and you see if it's really the right game for you.  I have been playing MMO's since Ultima and have been trapped in the raiding treadmill for a long time now.  I do not plan to stop raiding in the "other" games but I do plan on enjoying not having to schedule anything around Guild Wars 2 when it comes out.

OP is trolling and has obviously never even played.

Also saying GW1 is one server with no instancing made me ROFL all day long.

I would stick to Wow OP you wont like GW2.

It's not a real MMORPG. Even less than WoW is. People are just in that hype phase, this game has been hyped above the clouds and with the amount of crap I read for the past year and a half praising this game, it deserves to have these negative opinions shouted out loud. The performance problems are obvious, and anyone shouting 'It's a BETA' is lying to themselves about it, all of these games with terrible performance have deep underlying engine problems. I WOULD BE SHOCKED if the game runs smooth at launch after what I've witnessed from beta.

The developers themselves are full of it, they praise their own game as the best most innovative thing ever and it's another instanced, fast travel, dungeon queing fake MMO. Overdesigned as hell and still missing all of the points that make a game like this last longer than 2 years.

Originally posted by adam_nox

Can anyone address the instancing and closed in feeling parts? I'm very curious about that.

I have my own likes/dislikes for GW2 but first it's in beta. Secondly, to answer your question it is not as the op suggests mainly because he compares it to GW1 which he says is an open world with no instancing. I love GW1, but it is an instanced co-op with mmo elements, ie there are gathering places (cities and pvp areas) for the community. GW2 is not like that, there is zoning here and there such as when entering cities going through quick travel portals, quick map travel and the personal story is a bit instanced but I would say less so then TOR as the game still is running behind the story screen. I don't really know what the other person was talking about. I suspect he has never played GW1 at all, he couldn't  have if he chose GW1 to compare to GW2 in that manner. Kind of baffled really

Originally posted by Malevil

'The playerbase, at least in beta, is probably the worst I've seen. Not much to say here, but full of trolls and memes and people going "lol swtor is so much better than this"...I guess that is the new thing, instead of "WoW is better" that I always saw in previous MMO releases, in this it is SWTOR.'

 

This realy made my day, Do you realy play the game ? I dont believe you. Becouse seriously for severals hours i played gw2 havent seen one comment like this.

I guess were playing diffrent games then because the community was awful.

BUT and heres the BUT it's like this in any MMO people seem to feel the need to curse constantly throw racist comments out and just be general douchebags I don't understand why but that's just how it is....

I didn't see the Swtor comment but I seen plenty of Tera,Wow, *insert next MMO here* is better it just gets old if you like them so much why are you here lol...

I don't think this community is any worse then the rest but it's still sad that we can't seem to weed out the bad....

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

It's not a real MMORPG. Even less than WoW is. People are just in that hype phase, this game has been hyped above the clouds and with the amount of crap I read for the past year and a half praising this game, it deserves to have these negative opinions shouted out loud. The performance problems are obvious, and anyone shouting 'It's a BETA' is lying to themselves about it, all of these games with terrible performance have deep underlying engine problems. I WOULD BE SHOCKED if the game runs smooth at launch after what I've witnessed from beta.

The developers themselves are full of it, they praise their own game as the best most innovative thing ever and it's another instanced, fast travel, dungeon queing fake MMO. Overdesigned as hell and still missing all of the points that make a game like this last longer than 2 years.

 

After 16 hours in the game, I'd say that the game is more of an MMORPG than most games I've played since Lineage 2. I don't remember having had this freedom to roam around and go wherever I want and interact with numerous people since I played C1 in 2004.

Also I've been stuck mainly doing DEs the whole day and during the first 6 hours I didn't encounter a loading screen except for the one after the tutorial and whenever I chose to use a waypoint.

Dunno what server the OP was playing on (if he ever actually played the game), but thus far I've played on 3 different ones and I never saw anyone commenting on another game. Actually, most people seem to be so busy enjoying the game and paying attention to the combat (so that they don't get downed) that they rarely even talk to each other which is kind of a negative. But I guess it says enough about how engaging the gameplay is.

About the community, the servers I've been on everyone's been kind, people were answering the rare question, I got resurrected every time there were people around and people were saying thanks to each other all the time. Sure you didn't stumble on the 4chan server or something?

Only real issues are problems with login (which seem to have been mostly fixed), lag and FPS drops when there are too many people. There are the occasional bugs of course, but nothing gamebreaking that I have encountered. I can say that I'm quite happy with my purchase.