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News & Features Discussion  » Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Worst of Update 1.2: Legacy

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4/26/12 11:22:44 PM#61

Thier money wouldve been better spent making movies with those CG effects for the trailers. I bet they wouldve made more money that way. Like a fullon 2hr movie.


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4/27/12 12:01:37 AM#62
Sigh....I bought this game. I need to stop buying mmos on release and wait till all the bad reviews come out.

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4/27/12 12:29:20 AM#63
Your free 30 days start after you pay your first month's subscription. This fooled me too.

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4/27/12 12:43:38 AM#64
Originally posted by Zaltark

Thier money wouldve been better spent making movies with those CG effects for the trailers. I bet they wouldve made more money that way. Like a fullon 2hr movie.


Those were some great trailers and intros for the game. Would've made a great movie, so much better than the Clone Wars tv show at least.


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4/27/12 2:31:43 AM#65
Originally posted by Seriousblack

"As far as the want somethign now mentality, and working for a goal, I play games to have fun, if I want to work I got college, a career, a family, plenty of stuff to have to put real effort into."

Seriously, don't play mmorpg's then. 

This, too many players too un-twitch skilled for FPS and too lazy for MMO's , they need their own genre filled with fun and shiny stars every few metres along the path


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4/27/12 3:19:25 AM#66

Glad to see the flip side of the coin.


I'd still like to see a more wholesale critique of this and other games as released and in their current state.  But this is a welcome article in the spirit of objectivity.


SWTOR can still get me back, but it's going to take a bit more and more as time goes by.



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4/27/12 3:32:20 AM#67

I agree on prohibitive high costs (being altholic) but regarding "The problem was that BioWare defined these most valued or loyal subscribers as players that had level 50 characters, dividing the community into the haves and have-nots." is enough carefully to read. It was either 50 lv ***OR*** lv. 6 legacy. And that last is pretty easy to obtain, no matter if playing alts or only 1 char ... IF you have REALLY been playing since start or so this should NOT be problem.

So far, despite minor annoyances, game is great, best and fluid ever. Only that can compare are Rift and nowadays Wow.


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4/27/12 3:39:33 AM#68

Originally posted by RefMinor
I typed SWTOR into google and they gave me a months free time, now they won't let me go, if anyone reads this please can they call the police, I am being held somewhere in a large facility in Austin Texas with what I estimate to be 1.69m others.

yikes. Austin? Thats just horrible.

btw thats not a facility, thats just what Austin looks like hehe


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4/27/12 3:48:20 AM#69
I still get a kick about the whole "most loyal customer" jargon. That was almost enough to make me quit.

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4/27/12 4:18:24 AM#70

Originally posted by Jakard

I still get a kick about the whole "most loyal customer" jargon. That was almost enough to make me quit.


Agree on this with you, but swtor is too god to make me go away for this. :-)) Sure no problem with i.e. Aion. :-)


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4/27/12 5:40:11 AM#71

Nice article, I'm in the same boat as everyone else, SWTOR is the game that should have been, it was such a dissappointment and not really because of the game but more becuase of the bugs and lack of urgency to fix them.

Just a heads up, Mos Eisley Radio has a recent interview with Zach the lead game designer and he's asked about when they will launch the ranked warzones and he goes on record as saying its going to be before 1.3 goes live so isn't a part of 1.3.

The only thing I didn't like about the event was that you had to do the dalies the day before to unlock the next daily in the chain for the cosmetic armor so it meant if you missed a day you were snookered, I hope its the last time they have this sort of quest system as it sucked.

The promotion was indeed a joke also, people without 50's were totally left out originally which was just stupid and I agree it showed little foresight on EA's / Biowares part.

I'd personally play SWTOR more if they would just bug fix things faster, it's certainly a better game after 1.2 but its still not enough. 


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4/27/12 6:58:41 AM#72

If only SW:tor was  a WORKING wow clone it might have actually had something


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4/27/12 8:34:07 AM#73

What about the way they handle fighting in space from your ship?

Star Trek  does this better. I did not expect Eve but still I expected something more than a mini game.

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4/27/12 8:41:51 AM#74
Good to see a fair description of some of the cons with 1.2 after all the hype.  Hopefully we'll continue to see a more balanced reporting going forward.

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I liked MMOs better when gamers didn't play them, and just geeks did.

4/27/12 8:45:17 AM#75
I got my 30 days because I was Legacy lvl 8. I may have gotten 30 days, but I couldn't play past 30 minutes. This game is dead to me. Next!

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4/27/12 9:14:23 AM#76

MikeB: gains +1 to integrity is by far my favourite gaming site but I was beginning to lose faith after seeing nothing but positive reviews/comments from the staff here.

Not that I'm looking for particularly 'negative' comments, but at least something a little more realistic with an attempt at impartiality.

The players and visitors to this site deserve to hear about the bad, as well as the good.

It's a good start and something I hope to see continue.



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4/27/12 10:00:40 AM#77
So the consensus is bad game is bad?



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4/27/12 10:13:35 AM#78
Nope, the consensus is it hasn't lived up to expectations, in fact fell and continues to fall well short. It isn't 'bad' per say, just not anywhere near as good as it should be.

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4/27/12 12:22:25 PM#79

For those stating that achieving Legacy Level 6 is "easy" -- well, maybe it it is or maybe it isn't. I have been playing the game A LOT since January and was only as far as Legacy 2 by the time of this offer/promotion.

I'd say achieving either Legacy level 6 or maxxing out a character to level 50 would both be well nigh impossible for someone playing numerous alts -- at least it was for me.

In any case, those are piss-poor measures of "customer loyalty". Time spent playing, some cumulative score based on the combined levels of your various alts, or, better, still, the number of consecutve months actively subscribed would have been a better measure of customer loyalty.

I'm not mad at Bioware, and I still enjoy this game, but the absolute "Doh!" dumbness displayed by this company was painfully evident in this latest fiasco. SOmeone needs to give them an injection of good, old-fashioned common sense.


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4/27/12 11:22:35 PM#80
Great write up. Even though its a focus on negative aspects of the update, it still comes across as fair, and very honest. Great job Mike B

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