i also entered this game expecting an asian type mmo but to my suprise i enjoyed my beta experiences alot, the game really opens up at level 20 with stigmas, and i've only managed to go to the first instance which we cleared but was quite challenging ( random group ) but im a PvP lover and i found the PvE elements of this game ( BAM / dungeons ) to be quite interesting because they are so challenging. The PvP is awesome due to combat but is average in design, still no BG's which i prefer because it will allow alot of World pvp even though im not sure if they have PvP rewards, personally we were ganked while fighting a BAM and they stole the kill from us, they're might not be rewards but atleast i'm getting that old WoW like feeling ( level 60 vanilla WoW ) of real world pvp and the most awesome thing is if you are skilled in this game i think it will offer a great amount of satisfaction.

I haven't decided to pre-order it yet or not for the headstart tomorrow ( EU version ) but it has been the best MMO i've played untill WoW 2004, but then again no decent mmo's have come out since then and Tera's release date is in the middle of Uni exam period. Anyway this is just my opinion of the game for whom ever it helps.

Originally posted by revengecy

I haven't decided to pre-order it yet or not for the headstart tomorrow ( EU version ) but it has been the best MMO i've played untill WoW 2004, but then again no decent mmo's have come out since then and Tera's release date is in the middle of Uni exam period. Anyway this is just my opinion of the game for whom ever it helps.

The headstart is not tomorrow, its the april 28th - damn!

www.play.com states its on the 26th of april if you pre-order and i was talking about EU Tera, anyway if i made a mistake i dont understand why its such a big deal.....my bad guys. -.-

Originally posted by revengecy

www.play.com states its on the 26th of april if you pre-order and i was talking about EU Tera, anyway if i made a mistake i dont understand why its such a big deal.....my bad guys. -.-

Pretty sure thats a mistake, tomorrow is only for pre-character creation and name reservation. And yes I mean EU as well ;)

my bad then mate, thanks for the info :] i wasn't aware.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Its not bashing when someone doesnt like the design direction of the game.  I personally think the game would do a lot better if it disabled the Elin race and made the Elves, Castanic and Popori more masculine. Plus added more grittyness and mideval style art direction and then remove the kill 10 rats quest and finally remove the self rooting on combat animations.  I would love to play the game and I would feel more immersed if the world felt more real and not looked like it was designed for pre-pubescent teenagers. 

 

Neverwinter is doing all the things very similar to Tera and in a more traditional mideval fantasy way so thats where my action combat dollars will go.  But I wish you all the luck in your game of choice.

So then, and correct me if I'm mistaken here, what you're essentially saying i, "I would play TERA if it were a completely different game"?

"designed for pre-pubescent teenagers"? Really? I can accept that you don't like the art style, but artistic style has nil to do with maturity level. Any truly mature human being knows that "gritty"and "realistic"  =/= mature, and can accept that things outside the realm of their own preference can still be valid.

Originally posted by sagil

Tera is a new mmorpg genre for us gamers if we look at p2p games. The reason why you don't want to try it out, is maybe fear of leaving your longtime experience of the "standard" combat in mmorpgs?

Tera isnt new.... its between Aions gameplay with Dragon nest combat...

it will fail

Originally posted by FrostWyrm

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Its not bashing when someone doesnt like the design direction of the game.  I personally think the game would do a lot better if it disabled the Elin race and made the Elves, Castanic and Popori more masculine. Plus added more grittyness and mideval style art direction and then remove the kill 10 rats quest and finally remove the self rooting on combat animations.  I would love to play the game and I would feel more immersed if the world felt more real and not looked like it was designed for pre-pubescent teenagers. 

 

Neverwinter is doing all the things very similar to Tera and in a more traditional mideval fantasy way so thats where my action combat dollars will go.  But I wish you all the luck in your game of choice.

So then, and correct me if I'm mistaken here, what you're essentially saying i, "I would play TERA if it were a completely different game"?

"designed for pre-pubescent teenagers"? Really? I can accept that you don't like the art style, but artistic style has nil to do with maturity level. Any truly mature human being knows that "gritty"and "realistic"  =/= mature, and can accept that things outside the realm of their own preference can still be valid.

lol, yeah I would have to agree with you.

Sorry Zylaxx, I do think everyone has the right to their opinion but you are saying that the game would be better if it was a different setting.

I think the game would be different if it was a different settings.

The whole "thrust" of the settign is this weird over the top fantasy setting. It isn't a "game of thrones" setting. Changing the setting doesn't change the game play. Just the flavor that the game play marinades in. So to speak.

I also agree with FrostWyrm in that a gritty setting is not necessarily mature. I mean, loook at the conan universe, that's pretty gritty and very far from being any more mature than Tera.

Quite frankly, if one were to come from the outside one can make an argument that playing any video game is far from mature (and I know people who would very readily point this out).

Originally posted by PsyMike3d

Originally posted by sagil

Tera is a new mmorpg genre for us gamers if we look at p2p games. The reason why you don't want to try it out, is maybe fear of leaving your longtime experience of the "standard" combat in mmorpgs?

Tera isnt new.... its between Aions gameplay with Dragon nest combat...

it will fail

Tera is a game that has been westernized and it's not a f2p business model. Besides, they aren't Ncsoft developers. Why not compare the companies instead of being so short sighted of the whole thing. BHS made a game for asians and westerners.

Speaking of fail. A mmo can never fail. They win even if they have low amount of subscribers. It just depends what the developers are aiming for, "amaze factor", "lazy work to pay everything back and some profit" or "niche game".

Teras combat is amazing imo. The quests may seem lazy, but I believe that they lacked the fund to make them creative. I've heard that it gets better after 20+. Btw, the AI is also a wow factor. Is this a niche game? It might or might not be at the moment, but I think the tabbing will be forgotten in about 10 years or so. It will be remembered as pixels and created by indie devs but a little more advanced.

Come on... who doesn't think sometimes that a non-aim, lottery evasions, and heavily gear dependant games makes you think if you have become braindead? No /ragequit because someone else got luckier than you?

The fact that you feel like you need to defend the game should answer the question.

If you like it, then who cares if others bash it. Just play it and enjoy.

For me, i pre purchased and will play until GW2 or TSW comes out. I just dont find the game that compelling. I played to level 32 and didnt see the improvement others have talked about. The action combat does not make a game. Its the whole package.

But hey, its just my take on it. I've seen people diss games i thought were outstanding. they gave reasons i totally disagreed with....dont take it personal. just play and enjoy.

Originally posted by sagil

Tera is a new mmorpg genre for us gamers if we look at p2p games. The reason why you don't want to try it out, is maybe fear of leaving your longtime experience of the "standard" combat in mmorpgs?

In fighting games, when you execute a combo/finisher move you can't interrupt it. If someone picked up a pair of snowballs and threw them at me, he has to make a new pair of snowballs. I played the prologue and yeah I died some times on the boss. It showed how much skill you need to play this game (and why I don't understand why Froggies made the game a 12+ rating). Slayer was by far the hardest. Slow-hitting class that depend on being on the frontline duking it out hard with swords. I felt like I never have before in an MMO. This mmo is challangeing me to beat it and that I will do.

So it doesn't have dynamic events... I've played Warhammer and it was fun until you stood there afk waiting for the loot. I'm sorry but games like WoW can be infested with bots doing dungeons with you. Healbot??? Where is the skill in this? I have been a healer for a long time and my IQ dropped when I tested this out. Why use something so dumb when if you know how to play games would do better without it. Where's the action in these tab games? Oh... click on mob or tab. No aim, just click one button and roll the dice. In these games, there were no way for melee with 2h to dodge an attack. All they did was charge in and rage like a crazy bull hunting people down but just landing some blows before they drop dead.

You guys have wanted something unsimiliar to WoW for a long time now and you are complaining to make it more like it now? What a hypocrisy. 

So the questing is like a console game. Too linear. Mmorpgs needs to differiate from the consoles "kids" play. Dudes, I have played sandbox games. If you want a huge world where you go as you'd like and have a billion of quests, hook up with Bill Gates and make him lose all those money on scientists to make you your dream mmorpg. No man with sense would even think about making that feature in a game. Starting areas... sure. But did you know how short WoW was with zones in vanilla? All I did back then was PvP because the PvE sucked. It was a little world that was an illusion to you because you didn't get a mount until lv40 and the cap was lv60 (+ the two continents) and honestly the PvP system was much more appealing back then than it is now.

 

Why would you want to play an action style combat game with out actiona nd a perma root after every ability ill pass.

Normally i would agrue logically, but becuase the op feels he is entitled to just toss in random games their issues or his preception of them ill do the same. doesn't make me right just , wrong as he is.

Originally posted by Jetrpg

 

Why would you want to play an action style combat game with out actiona nd a perma root after every ability ill pass.

Normally i would agrue logically, but becuase the op feels he is entitled to just toss in random games their issues or his preception of them ill do the same. doesn't make me right just , wrong as he is.

I didn't understand a single word of what you just wrote...

Originally posted by Kehdar

Originally posted by Jetrpg

 

Why would you want to play an action style combat game with out actiona nd a perma root after every ability ill pass.

Normally i would agrue logically, but becuase the op feels he is entitled to just toss in random games their issues or his preception of them ill do the same. doesn't make me right just , wrong as he is.

I didn't understand a single word of what you just wrote...

it's code for I pre purchased GW 2

Is it me, or did anyone else have a hard time going back to their other MMO combat system after the Tera OB weekend?

I logged on Aion last night and just couldnt stomach the combat, I kept thinking about my zerker on Tera and the named BAM i Soloed in the Basilisk area.

I logged on EQ2 and got on my healer to run a few dungeons and just couldnt take the boredom of spamming the same abilities without any real dynamics to the fight. Just stay in place the whole time and spam heals while looking at health bars. I kept thinking about my Priest in Tera, and how I would need to keep movement focused on my group in order to place AOE heals in the right area, and mitigate the big hits incoming on our Lancer tank.

People can say what they want about Tera, but alot good can be said about a combat system that leaves you wishing to play more. I even tried to log on my Tera launcher just in case they left a server up by accident  :)

Originally posted by Nevulus

Is it me, or did anyone else have a hard time going back to their other MMO combat system after the Tera OB weekend?

I logged on Aion last night and just couldnt stomach the combat, I kept thinking about my zerker on Tera and the named BAM i Soloed in the Basilisk area.

I logged on EQ2 and got on my healer to run a few dungeons and just couldnt take the boredom of spamming the same abilities without any real dynamics to the fight. Just stay in place the whole time and spam heals while looking at health bars. I kept thinking about my Priest in Tera, and how I would need to keep movement focused on my group in order to place AOE heals in the right area, and mitigate the big hits incoming on our Lancer tank.

People can say what they want about Tera, but alot good can be said about a combat system that leaves you wishing to play more. I even tried to log on my Tera launcher just in case they left a server up by accident  :)

funny you say that. I was hitting F everytime I approached an NPC in SWTOR. Man, you are so right!

Originally posted by wrightstuf

The fact that you feel like you need to defend the game should answer the question.

If you like it, then who cares if others bash it. Just play it and enjoy.

For me, i pre purchased and will play until GW2 or TSW comes out. I just dont find the game that compelling. I played to level 32 and didnt see the improvement others have talked about. The action combat does not make a game. Its the whole package.

But hey, its just my take on it. I've seen people diss games i thought were outstanding. they gave reasons i totally disagreed with....dont take it personal. just play and enjoy.

So you stand by and do nothing as people bash on things you like? Ya people is picking on your friend in school making them of them but you know no need to go defend him/her but you know all those things are false. Ya does everyone else know what you know? The whole point is to stop bashing is to other people will be willing to give their unbias try of the game, if they like it or not is up to them but many form a opinion based on what people say, and teh bashing is the easist band wagon to jump on.

Originally posted by sancher36

The thing that irritated me the most are the game controls if using a keyboard and mouse but apart from that the game is looking really good.

I am not bashing the game but I will not purchase it and I don't think it will be a very successful title but thats just my opinion.

Maybe I would have enjoyed it more if I used an xbox style controller or a ps3 style one but then it starts reminding me of dc universe onlne in how much the controls irritated me there.

How it is annoying on keyboard/mouse? i find using a controller much harder to use. Also Tera control is nothing like DCUO at all -.-

Originally posted by PsyMike3d

Originally posted by sagil

Tera is a new mmorpg genre for us gamers if we look at p2p games. The reason why you don't want to try it out, is maybe fear of leaving your longtime experience of the "standard" combat in mmorpgs?

Tera isnt new.... its between Aions gameplay with Dragon nest combat...

it will fail

If it has dragon nest combat i would have uninstall the game already.

Originally posted by Jetrpg

Why would you want to play an action style combat game with out actiona nd a perma root after every ability ill pass.

Normally i would agrue logically, but becuase the op feels he is entitled to just toss in random games their issues or his preception of them ill do the same. doesn't make me right just , wrong as he is.

As i stated for about the 50th time lot of action combat game have root on every action. Monster hunter one of the best action combat stratgey game is almost identical to Tera combat. Also dark soul and demon soul and god eater burst all action combat with root. Heck street fighter have root as well.

Originally posted by Nevulus

Is it me, or did anyone else have a hard time going back to their other MMO combat system after the Tera OB weekend?

I logged on Aion last night and just couldnt stomach the combat, I kept thinking about my zerker on Tera and the named BAM i Soloed in the Basilisk area.

I logged on EQ2 and got on my healer to run a few dungeons and just couldnt take the boredom of spamming the same abilities without any real dynamics to the fight. Just stay in place the whole time and spam heals while looking at health bars. I kept thinking about my Priest in Tera, and how I would need to keep movement focused on my group in order to place AOE heals in the right area, and mitigate the big hits incoming on our Lancer tank.

People can say what they want about Tera, but alot good can be said about a combat system that leaves you wishing to play more. I even tried to log on my Tera launcher just in case they left a server up by accident  :)

Lol same i realised i couldn't play other mmorpg =\ not even dragon nest. it felt so empty when all i do is run the same instance over and over. also the way combat went in dragon nest felt worse because i feel like i'm flailing around like a fish out of water. Ironicly i can play maplestory because the game is so different it doesn't remind me of Tera lol.

Originally posted by sagil

Tera is a new mmorpg genre for us gamers if we look at p2p games. The reason why you don't want to try it out, is maybe fear of leaving your longtime experience of the "standard" combat in mmorpgs?

In fighting games, when you execute a combo/finisher move you can't interrupt it. If someone picked up a pair of snowballs and threw them at me, he has to make a new pair of snowballs. I played the prologue and yeah I died some times on the boss. It showed how much skill you need to play this game (and why I don't understand why Froggies made the game a 12+ rating). Slayer was by far the hardest. Slow-hitting class that depend on being on the frontline duking it out hard with swords. I felt like I never have before in an MMO. This mmo is challangeing me to beat it and that I will do.

So it doesn't have dynamic events... I've played Warhammer and it was fun until you stood there afk waiting for the loot. I'm sorry but games like WoW can be infested with bots doing dungeons with you. Healbot??? Where is the skill in this? I have been a healer for a long time and my IQ dropped when I tested this out. Why use something so dumb when if you know how to play games would do better without it. Where's the action in these tab games? Oh... click on mob or tab. No aim, just click one button and roll the dice. In these games, there were no way for melee with 2h to dodge an attack. All they did was charge in and rage like a crazy bull hunting people down but just landing some blows before they drop dead.

You guys have wanted something unsimiliar to WoW for a long time now and you are complaining to make it more like it now? What a hypocrisy. 

So the questing is like a console game. Too linear. Mmorpgs needs to differiate from the consoles "kids" play. Dudes, I have played sandbox games. If you want a huge world where you go as you'd like and have a billion of quests, hook up with Bill Gates and make him lose all those money on scientists to make you your dream mmorpg. No man with sense would even think about making that feature in a game. Starting areas... sure. But did you know how short WoW was with zones in vanilla? All I did back then was PvP because the PvE sucked. It was a little world that was an illusion to you because you didn't get a mount until lv40 and the cap was lv60 (+ the two continents) and honestly the PvP system was much more appealing back then than it is now.

 

   Like most games it has its good points and bad points,  to some people the good points out weigh the bad so they are willing to roll with the game, to others things like the quests out weigh the combat system and so over all they cannot get into the game.   I love swtor's quest vo, cut scene system but Tera has some nice qualities that remind me a little of Shadowbane so I might consider it

Simplistic take on it -

Remember when you were like in midde school and the you started to want to emulate the high schoolers and the adults more?

Remember that kid who still wanted to play action figures, because he just wasn't as mature yet and didn't realize that now he was getting big/old enough to play with people? He still wanted to walk in the creek and get all muddy on the way to school or some other fun but childish thing.

Yeah -

That action figure kid is the one who wants to keep playing tab targetters.

He hasn't realized that all that kiddy BS crap was in place of and in preparation for the next step.

His friends will leave him, or he has to double up his efforts and get comfortable in the adult world.

OR HE GETS LEFT ALONE to play in the mud while the big boys learn to fight.

Originally posted by baritone3k

Simplistic take on it -

 

Remember when you were like in midde school and the you started to want to emulate the high schoolers and the adults more?

Remember that kid who still wanted to play action figures, because he just wasn't as mature yet and didn't realize that now he was getting big/old enough to play with people? He still wanted to walk in the creek and get all muddy on the way to school or some other fun but childish thing.

 

Yeah -

 

That action figure kid is the one who wants to keep playing tab targetters.

He hasn't realized that all that kiddy BS crap was in place of and in preparation for the next step.

His friends will leave him, or he has to double up his efforts and get comfortable in the adult world.

 

OR HE GETS LEFT ALONE to play in the mud while the big boys learn to fight.

So if you don;t play Tera, you are just a little kid whos friends will all stop playing with you? Sorry, but this 'simplistic take' is just your way of bashing people for not enjoying Tera's combat system as much as you do.

Originally posted by baritone3k

Simplistic take on it -

 

Remember when you were like in midde school and the you started to want to emulate the high schoolers and the adults more?

Remember that kid who still wanted to play action figures, because he just wasn't as mature yet and didn't realize that now he was getting big/old enough to play with people? He still wanted to walk in the creek and get all muddy on the way to school or some other fun but childish thing.

 

Yeah -

 

That action figure kid is the one who wants to keep playing tab targetters.

He hasn't realized that all that kiddy BS crap was in place of and in preparation for the next step.

His friends will leave him, or he has to double up his efforts and get comfortable in the adult world.

 

OR HE GETS LEFT ALONE to play in the mud while the big boys learn to fight.

I'm aTera fan and that logic is totally fucked up. People like you makes it hard to defend Tera when you sink to troll level.