Originally posted by zevni78

Not to de-rail such an important thread, but what anime is that clip from?

angel beats

http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6564

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Xerith

Oh God not this again...

Abandon thread!

No kidding. These people need to come up with new material.

LOL..love that picture. Going to save it and post everytime people crow about any MMO based on old garbage news.

Originally posted by zevni78

Not to de-rail such an important thread, but what anime is that clip from?

It is from Angel Beats.

Some of you are so closed minded it's embarrasing. 

So... The Old Republic is a failure, correct? So could someone please enlighten me as to what constitutes a "failure"?  Cause as an active member of TOR, I must say, the people I play with everynight don't seem to think the game has "failed". Just because a game doesn't outsell everything on the market or have the most subs, that doesn't make it a failure. 

SWG was ultimately a failure.. as it is closed down. Shadowbane was a failure as the servers are shutdown. You get my point? EQ1 has less subscribers then most shitty games out today.. Would you call EQ1 a failure? DAOC, is that a failure? Last I heard, Everquest 2 had about 200-300K subs... I spose that's a failure too. You know how many LoTRO post there are calling it a failure. Dungeons and Dragons is also labled a failure. All of these games are still going with plenty of people that like them. 

Just because you don't' like a game, or you have 5 friends that quit playing, I don't think it qaulifies the game as a failure. If the game is up and running with a good amount of subs and has money coming in, in some way shape or form, it's not a failure. BW has said in the past they needed about 500K subs at this point to make money. Whether you believe that or not doesn't matter as neither you or I can legitmately argue BW's financials, however, this game is clearly not a failure. Perhaps it will be, only time will tell. 

Have fun with your awesome lives of hoping things crash and burn outta spite. It's a hell of a way to live. 

Originally posted by Praetalus

Some of you are so closed minded it's embarrasing. 

 

So... The Old Republic is a failure, correct? So could someone please enlighten me as to what constitutes a "failure"?  

A failure is any game that  I don't like.

Originally posted by Praetalus

 

So... The Old Republic is a failure, correct? So could someone please enlighten me as to what constitutes a "failure"? 

I suppose it would depend on the point of view.

If you compare the pre-launch hype and promises to what the sub numbers really are, it could be called it a failure.

If you compare it to a game, say Light and Dark, then it could be called a marvelous success.

Originally posted by hikaru77

What failure are you talking about?, so far is the most successfull MMO post wow, and is ok if you dont like the game, but there is a lot of people who really love it  and what BW did with SWTOR. So, plz tell me how a MMO with at least 1.7 Mill of sub after almost 5 months is a ¨HUGE FAIL¨?

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by Praetalus

Some of you are so closed minded it's embarrasing. 

 

So... The Old Republic is a failure, correct? So could someone please enlighten me as to what constitutes a "failure"?  

A failure is any game that  I don't like.

Case in point. Thanks, 

I've been reading a lot about this game and from the perspective of it being yet another themepark game I'm sure its doing well.

Add on the fact that 300 million dollars was spent and this is the Star Wars IP i would rate this is a collosal failure.  Just look at the tactics they are employing this early on.

A successful quality game is a successful without any win back schemes and successful games don't have to go on the defensive about server loads this short of a time after launch.

Although I guess I'm happy for those that are enjoying the game I would hope this game gets propped up as  game with a  lesson to be learned. 

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by Rekindle

http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html

 

 

"And you know what they're most proud of? This is the kicker," the blog reads. "They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That's the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke. EA knows it and so does George Lucas, they're panicking, and so most of Mythic has already been cannibalized to work in Austin on it because they can't keep pushing back launch."

Louse then predicts, "Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too ..."

 

 

I enjoy reading about the failure of this game because I think the themepark model is an abomination on MMOs and I hope every single title, advertiser and supporter of this poor game design philosophy crashes and burns.

 

The Themepark style quest hub trash model has hindered and harmed this genre that was once great.  For going with this model BW can suck it.

What failure are you talking about?, so far is the most successfull MMO post wow, and is ok if you dont like the game, but there is a lot of people who really love it  and what BW did with SWTOR. So, plz tell me how a MMO with at least 1.7 Mill of sub after almost 5 months is a ¨HUGE FAIL¨?

Only utterly naive people, who stick their heads in the sand alongside the suits at EA HQ, still believe that fairytale of 1,7mil subs.

As that's what it is.... a fairytale! Nothing more. Nothing less.

I guess if you repeat it long and often enough, via indoctrination, that you eventually really start believing it.

Eventho the FACTS clearly show a much less rosy picture about the state of the game.

Originally posted by Rekindle

I've been reading a lot about this game and from the perspective of it being yet another themepark game I'm sure its doing well.

 

Add on the fact that 300 million dollars was spent and this is the Star Wars IP i would rate this is a collosal failure.  Just look at the tactics they are employing this early on.

 

A successful quality game is a successful without any win back schemes and successful games don't have to go on the defensive about server loads this short of a time after launch.

 

Although I guess I'm happy for those that are enjoying the game I would hope this game gets propped up as  game with a  lesson to be learned. 

 

Fact? From EALouse? Seriously?

Hey guys, i got a major prediction about the next MMO! its gonna have many subs, then those will decline after certain period of time and will eventually fail! and you can quote me on that one..

but seriously, EAlousy? that peon of hatred havent disappeared from the net yet?

Originally posted by Rekindle

http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html

 

 

"And you know what they're most proud of? This is the kicker," the blog reads. "They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That's the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke. EA knows it and so does George Lucas, they're panicking, and so most of Mythic has already been cannibalized to work in Austin on it because they can't keep pushing back launch."

Louse then predicts, "Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too ..."

 

 

I enjoy reading about the failure of this game because I think the themepark model is an abomination on MMOs and I hope every single title, advertiser and supporter of this poor game design philosophy crashes and burns.

 

The Themepark style quest hub trash model has hindered and harmed this genre that was once great.  For going with this model BW can suck it.

Fail thread - most succesful mmo on the market not named WoW - pretty far from one of the greatest failure in the history of MMOs from EA.

The game's doing just fine. I have unsubscribed though.

To the haters: SWTOR is not a failure in business terms no matter how much the game is lacking. It being a bad MMORPG does not negate the fact that it is a great story with online capabilities that meets the needs of players with low expecations and delusions of mediocrity.

To the fanboys: No company in the history of online games ever gave out 30 free days (to LOYAL players)without first seeing a large drop off in subscriptions. It doesnt matter that the game creams your jeans with images of playing in "star wars", it lacks many of the most fundamental MMORPG aspects and has lost a large chunk of players because of it and your liking the game has nothing to do with that FACT.

Deal with reality, it isnt what either of you think it is.

The mythical 1.7 number is becoming its own legend. It's getting really expensive for them to continue to prop it up. Eventually that house of cards is gonna fall.

Thanks, that looks like an interesting series, alas, not on crunchyroll.

can we close the thread now?

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Praetalus

 

So... The Old Republic is a failure, correct? So could someone please enlighten me as to what constitutes a "failure"? 

I suppose it would depend on the point of view.

If you compare the pre-launch hype and promises to what the sub numbers really are, it could be called it a failure.

If you compare it to a game, say Light and Dark, then it could be called a marvelous success.

The hype doesn't make it a fail. It makes people who hype it fails... same shit has happened for every big name MMO on the site over the past 4 years it NEVER fails. Rift, AoC, WAR, Aion, TERA is next, and then GW2... its a continuous cycle of flamers and fanboys and then the flamers come back to create threads like these and call games fails when in reality SWTOR is a successful mmorpg.

I did think they needed at least 2mil subs to break-even. Not interested enough to dig through all the dev / analyst bs for the quote though. It may or may not be a 'success' from a financial point of view, but it certainly hasn't met expectations so is a sure 'fail' from that perspective.

Originally posted by dead2soon

The mythical 1.7 number is becoming its own legend.

Lol, yes it is. I could see "1.7" become a common response to a fail post or thread.