Originally posted by FrostWyrm

You ever notice how no one raises a fuss when muscle-bound half-naked dudes appear in video games?

All superheroes to date (comics). Tights, bulges, every muscle fiber being shown...*fans self*

Originally posted by just1opinion

No, that's just YOU being sexist.  Of COURSE you like boobs hanging out all over the place, you're a man.  If we insisted that in our games men's penises would be swingin' in the wind all the time, I bet you'd not want to play that game.  You wouldn't want to look at male character's dicks.  So who's being hypocritical?  What's good for one is good for all?  No, it doesn't work that way.  Women just get exploited.

And the highlighted statement isn't at all sexist itself is it?

You might also want to take a look at the Castanic and High Elf men. They have a number of armor models that show them bare chested with their unrealistically ripped abs. I would post an example but it makes me feel so used and exploited.

Originally posted by orgash

Originally posted by Think01

I totally agree about the Elin: it seems a gift for pedofilies.

 

so pedophiles get off on part divine incarnations of what some goddess thought represented beauty and peace in some imaginary world?  Being 1000+ years old i woulda thought Elins are a little too old for most mmorpg gaming Pedophiles but then not having that problem i cannot say for sure..

If someone sees this race as 8year old girls then that person has some issues...in context who knows what the designer was thinking..maybe he was being a total perve but then again maybe he was just going with the lore handed to him to potray.

Apart from Elins who seem to bring out dark thoughts in most (which is why maybe people are so upset about them..guilt or something) but lets be realistic - Sex = $$$$ and for the most baywatch girls will bring in more profits than umm a local Slavic all womens shottput hurling team (unless it comes to the olympics i guess)

Physical attraction is not based on backstory. 

Isn't it the same answer that all of the "metal thong" threads get?

There are as many opinions about them as there are female players, guys need not express their opinion.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Ehh...... appearently people have all forgotten about TRION's MMO RIFT?

The first iterations of female avatars and armor received a lot of heat from female gamers and TRION ended up making "adjustments" in the end to better suit their Western audience.

Yup, I remember.

Originally posted by FrostWyrm

You ever notice how no one raises a fuss when muscle-bound half-naked dudes appear in video games?

For different reasons. One of them being that we have a much larger problem at hand and another being that muscle-bound dudes is a widespread male ideal while looking like a surgically modified hooker is not a widespread female ideal. 

Ok guys can we decide the argument of this topic?

Because if the argument is Elin i can agree they are bad taste, I wont' scream they are for pedofiles / sicko's / maniacs because it's just stupid generalization, but i'll say they are bad taste in my book.

If we are talking about high elves, humans and castanics armors, isntead, there is space for discussion.

Originally posted by Dahkot72

Thankfully my wife is amused and not offended by such , and someone who understands fantasy games overall.

I find this usually explains most of the types who get upset or offended over this sort of thing.

 

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^^ This.

You do know that those Castanics live in a materiarchal society right? Meaning that the females of the race are the ones in charge.

The Elin are immortal and was given that look to them by their goddess as a gift and most of them in the game are over 500 years old.

As for the armour you people take it to far as BioWare said about ME3 its art just leave it at that. If you think its porn you got serious problems.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Think01

Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

Don't.

Get.

Me.

Started.

Er... excuse me but I don't understand your mood (I'm not english native).

That's OK, I am a native English speaker and I don't know where she was going either.

I was tempted to report her for trolling.

 

THIS THIS THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. *enters rage mode*

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/staffblog/072011/21826_Aim-for-the-Shiny-PartsPlease

Originally posted by Olgark

Originally posted by Dahkot72

Thankfully my wife is amused and not offended by such , and someone who understands fantasy games overall.

I find this usually explains most of the types who get upset or offended over this sort of thing.

 

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^^ This.

You do know that those Castanics live in a materiarchal society right? Meaning that the females of the race are the ones in charge.

The Elin are immortal and was given that look to them by their goddess as a gift and most of them in the game are over 500 years old.

As for the armour you people take it to far as BioWare said about ME3 its art just leave it at that. If you think its porn you got serious problems.

That would all be fine in the name of "art", if I wasn't convinced that TERA was a game using every bullshit excuse to market their game. It is easy as hell creating lore to justify your market decisions.

I don't understand why this makes people rage. Well whatever, in ten years this will mean nothing or less than today.

Compare what women used to wear just 10-20-30-40-50 years ago.

Female gamer here, married to another female gamer.

We both love the art, and both think that although it is slightly sexualized, it is not offensive. The Elin are not children. Neither of us see them as such. My spouse actually prefers them over other races, she likes cutesey, but she is also a former Loli, having stopped only because the clothing was too damned expensive.

Alexis

*smiles*

Originally posted by VikingGamer

Originally posted by just1opinion

No, that's just YOU being sexist.  Of COURSE you like boobs hanging out all over the place, you're a man.  If we insisted that in our games men's penises would be swingin' in the wind all the time, I bet you'd not want to play that game.  You wouldn't want to look at male character's dicks.  So who's being hypocritical?  What's good for one is good for all?  No, it doesn't work that way.  Women just get exploited.

And the highlighted statement isn't at all sexist itself is it?

You might also want to take a look at the Castanic and High Elf men. They have a number of armor models that show them bare chested with their unrealistically ripped abs. I would post an example but it makes me feel so used and exploited.

Good, I'm glad.  I don't want to see it any way.  I don't like men in that way, so....doesn't bother me.  And yes, my comment about men was sexist, and mostly accurate, thank you for noticing.

You assumed I was straight due to my comment about the male anatomy.  I'm not.  I have a lot of respect for women and don't think it's necessary for them to be paraded about naked to see their real beauty.  I also don't think seeing women naked in a GAME is the best place for that lovely vision.  A game is a game and played by people of all ages including children who do not need yet ONE MORE PLACE to see women as only sexual objects.

To me it's a matter of respect, not prudishness.  There is a time and place where naked is GREAT!  However, I don't believe that is in a game, particularly one played by a broad demographic.

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Think01

Ok, so all in all they liked the graphics feeling. I'ld like to understand if TERA's authors did well with they artwork or missed the point and got a disturbing effect. I thought this because you have to admit the female characters are quite explicit.

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As far as I'm concerned, all of the anime, high heels, low-cut skirts crap misses the mark.

But apparently anime-porn in MMOs is where it's at these days. Pathetic.

After seeing what the females look like in Tera I wouldn't play it no matter how good it was. It wasn't made for me, a female to play anyways.

Wholeheartedly agree here; all the cutesy crap and the overuse of sex appeal in the game is a turn off. I could almost get into TERA if it wasn't for those elements...and the crappy, boring leveling process. Then again I am biased, all it takes is one bunny eared asian sex doll character in a game and I know it is not for me.

Originally posted by colddog04

I'm male so my opinion doesn't apply to your question, but I find that the level of acceptance for the sexualization of 8 year olds to be disturbing.

This game always reminds me of the child prostition stories from second life.

I can only tell you guys what my wife thought when she saw me playing Tera. She simply asked me the reason why all females are dressed up as tramps. I simply told her that sex sells. Also she was shocked to see elin race.

Originally posted by NBlitz

I don't understand why this makes people rage. Well whatever, in ten years this will mean nothing or less than today.

Compare what women used to wear just 10-20-30-40-50 years ago.

It's not making anyone "rage" it's just a contributing factor to why some people are not going to buy/play the game, therefore people are discussing it. I don't think anyone has problem with skin being shown, its more the overly silly way its being portrayed. 

I guess people had issues with Wonder Woman back in the day too?

Originally posted by NBlitz

I don't understand why this makes people rage. Well whatever, in ten years this will mean nothing or less than today.

Compare what women used to wear just 10-20-30-40-50 years ago.

I find it distasteful because they are clearly abusing the fact that male teenagers are extremely dependant on their hormones. It is like taking candy from a child, literally, without actually selling the game on its own merits. 

Edit: In other words: the intent matters.