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Shaike
Novice Member
Joined: 4/23/12
At first there were games, then MMOs, then MMORPGs then i understood i had no life :-) |
4/24/12 4:12:27 AM#21
Originally posted by oubers Nope - its greed on your part - why do you think you deserve to get free Beta access??
they spent more than 5 years developing what could be the best MMO as of yet and you just think everyone should be able to experience it for free? i say no - you are wrong for now that is the most logical action on their part. sure once game iss finally out if you would like to try it out then there will probably be a "trial" of some sorts - but now (with all the hype and their effords) i think its reasonable to ask you to buy the game if you wish to enjoy it before its officially out.... |
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4/24/12 4:12:59 AM#22
Originally posted by Chrome1980 whats really sad though is how easily mmorpg players will volunteer to become "lemmings" to a company out of excitment. One person to disagree in ths entire post did so in a reasonable way, as if anyone coming onto mmorpg doesn't know this is standard fare (people taking exception with companies trying to get money before offering up an actual product). The community atmosphere is too reminiscent of games like Mortal Online and Darkfall for my liking right now yes until they started to get royally dumped on the fans of those games treated anyone to question the devs the exact same way many of you are treating these guys for doing what we as a community do to any game we haven't already married in our sleep. Question why we need to put ourselves out there for the sake of a company. honestly I hope attitudes like this don't ruin this game as they have so many others that came before if not because of bad attitudes turning peope off then because the devs get god complexes and begin to think they can do no wrong simply because a bunch of fanatics defend everything they do.
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4/24/12 4:16:01 AM#23
This is just getting crazy, NO ONE is forcing you to pay for the beta, nor they are cheating people in order to sell more, the beta acces is just a reward to those who trust the company and want to prepurchase the game. Easy as that. |
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4/24/12 4:16:50 AM#24
Originally posted by Shaike Beta testing isn't about enjoying the game it's about helping the company out to fix bugs etc. and no people shouldn't be asked to pay to do that sorry that doesn't become true no matter how much you like the game. there are tons of games that have used similar marketing tricks and they didn't get passes for it either. |
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4/24/12 4:18:54 AM#25
Originally posted by Shaike Beta testing is to give feedback about bugs, i know people don't treat it like that anymore and betas are nothing more than glorious free trials for the players so why not charge for it? not that most of the players are going to care for giving feedback. |
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4/24/12 4:20:37 AM#26
Originally posted by Dekarx12 same here lol... Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language :) |
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4/24/12 4:28:36 AM#27
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4/24/12 4:31:16 AM#28
Originally posted by Shaike
IMO, a company should be greatful if people are prepared to help them test and polish a product that is far from ready and finished. This was the normal attitude before... Not even M$ wants or expects you to pay if you want to try /beta test Windows 8. Think about that... |
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Shaike
Novice Member
Joined: 4/23/12
At first there were games, then MMOs, then MMORPGs then i understood i had no life :-) |
4/24/12 4:40:05 AM#29
Originally posted by Hurvart
get over yourselves and stop trying to get stuff for free!!!! You either want to play this game - and then why not buy it and play it even before it is ready (and i should assume you would want Beta access to it), or you don't like this game and why are you ranting over Beta access. If you are neither (not sure about the game) wait for it to be released - what else could you do? ohh wait - you could spend all day here ranting how "unfair" it is you cannot play the game without paying for it (even in it's current Beta state) |
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4/24/12 4:44:51 AM#30
Originally posted by Shaike beta testing might not be a job but it sure isn't release either so why should people just be happy to pay for it????? |
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4/24/12 4:44:55 AM#31
Originally posted by Shaike Man you GW2 fans are so intolernat of other people opinion. The guy didn't rant at all. He is talking about general practise of paying for un finished game with no release date. To some it seems a silly practise. This is an open forum not a fan site and everyone has the right to post their opinions about it. No where he said he is upset because he can not play the game without paying for it. Infact he wouldn't pay for it out of choice because he is against the idea of paying to get a beta access. |
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4/24/12 4:48:08 AM#32
the only thing that bothers me about this game is that they are trying to sell something without letting the public know when it will be available. I don't see how this is good business. |
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4/24/12 4:50:43 AM#33
Originally posted by Chrome1980 Welcome to the GW2 forum voice of reason, sorry to say but you aren't welcome here nor is anyone else who would dare to question the great Arenanet, maker of the second most popular mmorpg on the planet. If you can't accept the fact that GW2 is the answer to everything that is wrong in this world then you are the problem not A Net and this will remain true until three months after release and half of these people realize this game is not the second coming and turn all the love they spew into venom. |
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4/24/12 4:54:51 AM#34
Originally posted by raistlinm You may think you are very clever but yet you cant understand that the beta acces is not what they are selling, its a REWARD for those who trust Anet and want to prepurchase. |
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4/24/12 4:57:21 AM#35
Originally posted by Shaike
If they expect me to pay them for being allowed to help them they can forget it. And I dont know enough to decide if the game is good or bad. I will not have any opinion until after release. |
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4/24/12 4:57:49 AM#36
Originally posted by Chrome1980 Blizzards StarCraft2 had no release date and offered guaranteed beta to players who preordered http://www.gamespot.com/news/starcraft-ii-beta-access-included-with-preorder-6259222
EQNext press http://EQ3Wire.com EQ2: Freeport server |
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4/24/12 4:58:22 AM#37
Originally posted by raistlinm Because the ones who already paid for it are guaranteed to buy the game when it's released. For them there is absolutely no difference in cashing out now if they've decided they'd buy it anyway, even if that happens to be at the end of this year. It's really not that hard to understand. It's bringing to life the meme "Shut up and take my money!" |
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4/24/12 5:01:04 AM#38
Originally posted by Nadia And? does that make it right for those who don't believe in it? i don't even know why you posted that link. I know other companies do it too but we are talking about Ncsoft / Anet right now. |
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4/24/12 5:07:41 AM#39
Originally posted by Chrome1980 i posted the link as a verification of source - ive seen several people in the past week, months claim that paying with no release date seems to is a new trend that ANET is starting and other companies dont do this
or the more common complaint: paying for beta
as others have stated, many were going to buy the game anyhow -- access to beta is another perk for pre-ordering EQNext press http://EQ3Wire.com EQ2: Freeport server |
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4/24/12 5:07:52 AM#40
Originally posted by Shaike Did you get that from my post?? All i am asking for me to get a feel of the game in a beta, i am not asking for a free game here.....maybe a fiew lvls so i can get the feel of this game....nothing more or less. Oh, so the reason they ask money is because they have been working on it for years with passion???? why can we test Diablo3 and TERA for free during a weekend then????? Also i am not talking about early access......i am talking BETA ffs. If people who pre-order the game get an extra week of gametime......i dont mind...REALY.....bcause they payd for it. Beta's have been the way to get people to buy your game for years now......alot of people aint buying BETA access, if you want to buy a beta because you cant wait for a fiew weeks then plz do so but also plz respect our opinion in this ok?
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