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  maskedweasel

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4/23/12 8:50:28 AM#21
Originally posted by MMOExposed
I hate the compiler for Java through ori. Also cheap on the Visual Studios. Anybody know a cheap way to get a nice compiler?

Eclipse is free and the one I use.

 

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/java.php

 

They also have libraries for android available which will sync with your virtual machines for testing.  A must have for any android developer.

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  Cuathon

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4/23/12 8:51:32 AM#22
Originally posted by Ghabbo

You can, of course, try to learn any OOP lenguage, but if you have little experince and you're coming from Basic, I strongly recommend you start by learning C. That way you'll get used to the syntax and more complex stuff like pointers and memory allocation.

that would be a disaster. c doesn't have common c++ functions like std::vector. coding in C for advanced stuff is so different from c++ that it would only confuse you. If you were taking a CS degree you might be able to argue that learning C first is a good idea, but for self teaching he would learn a lot of stuff in C that isn't really important.

c++ is easy to learn, is well documented, has large library support and many many step by step tutorials.

  maskedweasel

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4/23/12 8:53:47 AM#23
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by Cuathon
Originally posted by Mellkor

 


Java appears to be the primary language for android apps. or maybe scripting like python.

 

In this day and age you can get IDE's that trans code to any platforms native code.

Ie C# > Objective C

That is true. However I am pretty sure most people use Java and for a new programmer it would be so much easier to use the most supported language instead.

QFT

If he's planning to use an IDE for android, eclipse would be the way to go, and it would be best to program in Java..  not to mention he'll need a dash of XML for some structure work.

 

Yeah but can you make a serious MMO game with java. Most of those games seem to be C++ ports from IoS

 

Not sure what you mean by "serious"  but yet, technically you can make anything you want to with Java... the best thing about Java is how universal it is.. you could easily create a game for a java platform that could play on any system available...  it all depends on how complex you want to get, and honestly if you're trying to make a very large 3D game like the games you play on the PC,  you'd start using an engine, as coding from scratch will be way too time intensive.

 

Thats one of the best things about Unity is the portability to all formats, and they have a lot of indie support... but this isn't a thread about game engines, its a thread about learning c++ as cuathon reminded me.

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  Ghabbo

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4/23/12 9:00:42 AM#24
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by MMOExposed
....

 

Yeah but can you make a serious MMO game with java. Most of those games seem to be C++ ports from IoS

 

Not sure what you mean by "serious"  but yet, technically you can make anything you want to with Java... the best thing about Java is how universal it is.. you could easily create a game for a java platform that could play on any system available...  it all depends on how complex you want to get, and honestly if you're trying to make a very large 3D game like the games you play on the PC,  you'd start using an engine, as coding from scratch will be way too time intensive.

 

Thats one of the best things about Unity is the portability to all formats, and they have a lot of indie support... but this isn't a thread about game engines, its a thread about learning c++ as cuathon reminded me.

 

Wurm Online is java based... extremely complex but not graphic intensive.

  maskedweasel

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4/23/12 9:03:35 AM#25
Originally posted by Ghabbo
Originally posted by maskedweasel
Originally posted by MMOExposed
....

 

Yeah but can you make a serious MMO game with java. Most of those games seem to be C++ ports from IoS

 

Not sure what you mean by "serious"  but yet, technically you can make anything you want to with Java... the best thing about Java is how universal it is.. you could easily create a game for a java platform that could play on any system available...  it all depends on how complex you want to get, and honestly if you're trying to make a very large 3D game like the games you play on the PC,  you'd start using an engine, as coding from scratch will be way too time intensive.

 

Thats one of the best things about Unity is the portability to all formats, and they have a lot of indie support... but this isn't a thread about game engines, its a thread about learning c++ as cuathon reminded me.

 

Wurm Online is java based... extremely complex but not graphic intensive.

I believe Runescape is Java based too...  

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  Brenelael

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4/23/12 9:05:42 AM#26

Here are some more good resources for you to check out:

http://www.cplusplus.com/

http://en.cppreference.com/w/

http://www.cprogramming.com/

http://www.intap.net/~drw/cpp/

 

Hope this helps.

 

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  steelrain666

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4/23/12 9:15:28 AM#27

When I first wanted to learn C++ years ago for game programming, I found a site that was decent for learning and ended up getting alot of there series and such for game programming... Mind you its just giving you alot of basics and everything, Its a different world compared to making applications and websites. 

Anyway check it out

C++ 

http://www.3dbuzz.com/xcart/product.php?productid=30&cat=12&page=1

 

I found the C#(my language) XNA gamestudio series alot more fun and since I know C# it made it alot easier to work on for me.

  dave6660

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4/23/12 9:19:10 AM#28
Originally posted by Cuathon

http://www.cplusplus.com/

I used that site for its excellent documentation of C++ when I was learning it. It also has a forum. You can also google pretty much anything in C++ and there are also libraries for many many things.

You will probably have to learn openGL on top of C++ for graphics, or alternatively directX but, I prefer to use non commercial products with more open licenses.

really good libraries for C++ include www.boost.org. Boost libraries are often added into the C++ standard.

common libraries with the GPL license or something similar include things like libxml2, freetype6, and so forth.

the most common openGL libraries are opengl32, glu, glut. there are also several superior windowing toolkits over glut, although for a simple 2d game glut is probably fine. it has mouse inputs and keyboard inputs and such as well as window functions.

some people prefer to use more modern solutions even for simple games like, SDL, SFML and so forth.

since you want to do games there are several gui libraries you can use like glgooey, cegui, glui, and glow. some haven't had actual development since 2006 or so however.

you can also use widget stuff like wxwidgets, gtk+, and QT for simple interfaces.

c++ is primarily used for very large games, if you want to do smaller 2d games and such you may find it easier to use a higher level language. Java appears to be the primary language for android apps. or maybe scripting like python.

Damn man, slow down!  It's good information but the guy is just beginning to learn C++ .  Don't bog him down with all these 3rd party libraries yet.  First get a good handle on the language then move into Boost, OpenGL / DirectX, SDL GLUT,, QT or GTK.  First learn to crawl then learn to fly.

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  Cuathon

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4/23/12 9:28:59 AM#29
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by Cuathon

http://www.cplusplus.com/

I used that site for its excellent documentation of C++ when I was learning it. It also has a forum. You can also google pretty much anything in C++ and there are also libraries for many many things.

You will probably have to learn openGL on top of C++ for graphics, or alternatively directX but, I prefer to use non commercial products with more open licenses.

really good libraries for C++ include www.boost.org. Boost libraries are often added into the C++ standard.

common libraries with the GPL license or something similar include things like libxml2, freetype6, and so forth.

the most common openGL libraries are opengl32, glu, glut. there are also several superior windowing toolkits over glut, although for a simple 2d game glut is probably fine. it has mouse inputs and keyboard inputs and such as well as window functions.

some people prefer to use more modern solutions even for simple games like, SDL, SFML and so forth.

since you want to do games there are several gui libraries you can use like glgooey, cegui, glui, and glow. some haven't had actual development since 2006 or so however.

you can also use widget stuff like wxwidgets, gtk+, and QT for simple interfaces.

c++ is primarily used for very large games, if you want to do smaller 2d games and such you may find it easier to use a higher level language. Java appears to be the primary language for android apps. or maybe scripting like python.

Damn man, slow down!  It's good information but the guy is just beginning to learn C++ .  Don't bog him down with all these 3rd party libraries yet.  First get a good handle on the language then move into Boost, OpenGL / DirectX, SDL GLUT,, QT or GTK.  First learn to crawl then learn to fly.


Fair enough. When I really work at something I tend to go through it really fast. Like when I started with C++ I was on Code::Blocks 8 hours a day doing shit. I quit my programming class which is what first caused me to download CB and start on C++ after the second week because they were still talking about rock paper scissors and order of operations after a whole week. If a person has other stuff going on in their life they may want to disregard anything after the 2 lines under the website url :)

  kermie

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4/23/12 9:32:42 AM#30

Try this book. One of the best ones I've read so far, both for the basics and a bit more advanced stuff. It also gives you a nice introduction to the world that is OOP (object-oriented programming), a concept you will need to get yourself familiar with whether you choose to learn C++, C# or Java. If you don't want to buy it find it at the library, or "borrow" it on the internet.

Thinking In C++ 2nd Edition

http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

For your choice of compiler I would personally go for Visual Studio, there is a free Visual C++ IDE available. If you want to get your hands a bit dirtier go for G++, the command line compiler, and a makefile.

Other than that, I suggest you find an interesting hobby project to work on, something that is fun. Programming, in the end, is not reading books. It's learning by doing. Just working through examples and tutorials alone will get you nowhere. The true progress will come from personal experience.

  mad-hatter

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4/23/12 9:38:36 AM#31

If you don't have the "time" to take classes, what makes you think you have the "time" to learn C++?  Programming really isn't something you can just pick up and have a go at, some people have a knack for it, some will never grasp it no matter how much they learn.  I can understand the cash thing, but with financial aid and such I'd really suggest looking into a good school.  Then again, you might be one of those prodigies that teach themself and have no problem grasping it.  But seriously, if this is something you really have the drive for, having the schooling behind you can really help you in the job front, even if you only plan to make games in your spare time.

  FrostWyrm

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OP  4/23/12 9:45:51 AM#32
Originally posted by BartDaCat

Great thread, and great feedback, thanks to the OP for posting it, and thanks to everyone else for the input, this helped me, too!

Thank you indeed!

Sorry for not replying sooner, but I'm at work and can't always freely read/post on the forums. I didnt expect to get this many replies. Thank you guys again for all the info. I'm slowly sifting through all the posts.

  dave6660

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4/23/12 9:46:39 AM#33
Originally posted by kermie

Try this book. One of the best ones I've read so far, both for the basics and a bit more advanced stuff. It also gives you a nice introduction to the world that is OOP (object-oriented programming), a concept you will need to get yourself familiar with whether you choose to learn C++, C# or Java. If you don't want to buy it find it at the library, or "borrow" it on the internet.

Thinking In C++ 2nd Edition

http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

For your choice of compiler I would personally go for Visual Studio, there is a free Visual C++ IDE available. If you want to get your hands a bit dirtier go for G++, the command line compiler, and a makefile.

Other than that, I suggest you find an interesting hobby project to work on, something that is fun. Programming, in the end, is not reading books. It's learning by doing. Just working through examples and tutorials alone will get you nowhere. The true progress will come from personal experience.

Something I would like to add to this statement.  Make sure your project is within your skill and can be completed in a reasonable time frame.  I learned this from experience.  It's always fun starting a new project but completing it is another animal entirely.  You get a few days in and realize that you bit off way more than you can chew and get discouraged.  Set reasonable goals for yourself.

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  Sythion

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4/23/12 9:49:24 AM#34
Originally posted by dave6660

Something I would like to add to this statement.  Make sure your project is within your skill and can be completed in a reasonable time frame.  I learned this from experience.  It's always fun starting a new project but completing it is another animal entirely.  You get a few days in and realize that you bit off way more than you can chew and get discouraged.  Set reasonable goals for yourself.

Or not.

There's great value in trying something and failing to complete it as well :)

  Cuathon

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4/23/12 9:51:35 AM#35
Originally posted by mad-hatter

If you don't have the "time" to take classes, what makes you think you have the "time" to learn C++?  Programming really isn't something you can just pick up and have a go at, some people have a knack for it, some will never grasp it no matter how much they learn.  I can understand the cash thing, but with financial aid and such I'd really suggest looking into a good school.  Then again, you might be one of those prodigies that teach themself and have no problem grasping it.  But seriously, if this is something you really have the drive for, having the schooling behind you can really help you in the job front, even if you only plan to make games in your spare time.

It totally is something you can just pick up and have a go at, (are you british?), people do it all the time. Everyone can learn programming, they might not be very good at it though.

He doesn't sound like he wants to work in the games industry, and frankly most of the time in the industry you don't get to have fun making games at all.

If he was making games with 3d graphics and physics and not using a preexisting engine he might need to be a prodigy because of all the math and objects and crap, otherwise no.

In any case going to school for programming is mostly about the math and having a degree to show employers. For 2d game programming and graphics he can easily learn it in just a few hours a day over a couple months or a year.

Excellent google fu is almost like having a private tutor also. And asking questions on programming forums helps too.

  Cuathon

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4/23/12 9:55:00 AM#36
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by kermie

Try this book. One of the best ones I've read so far, both for the basics and a bit more advanced stuff. It also gives you a nice introduction to the world that is OOP (object-oriented programming), a concept you will need to get yourself familiar with whether you choose to learn C++, C# or Java. If you don't want to buy it find it at the library, or "borrow" it on the internet.

Thinking In C++ 2nd Edition

http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

For your choice of compiler I would personally go for Visual Studio, there is a free Visual C++ IDE available. If you want to get your hands a bit dirtier go for G++, the command line compiler, and a makefile.

Other than that, I suggest you find an interesting hobby project to work on, something that is fun. Programming, in the end, is not reading books. It's learning by doing. Just working through examples and tutorials alone will get you nowhere. The true progress will come from personal experience.

Something I would like to add to this statement.  Make sure your project is within your skill and can be completed in a reasonable time frame.  I learned this from experience.  It's always fun starting a new project but completing it is another animal entirely.  You get a few days in and realize that you bit off way more than you can chew and get discouraged.  Set reasonable goals for yourself.


Most people in tutorial creation like to have a player complete a series of exercises where they create a more complex game at each step, although you do want to learn programming basics first, which takes a while.

Its not so much choosing a properly sized project as it is making a solid plan. Ie each step should be a reasonable goal, but the end result, something like a simple 3d shooter or rts game, doesn't have to be reasonable at all.

For C++ a new programmer definitely wants to avoid any sort of multiplayer. Network programming is a bitch.

  Cuathon

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4/23/12 9:58:00 AM#37
Originally posted by Sythion
Originally posted by dave6660

Something I would like to add to this statement.  Make sure your project is within your skill and can be completed in a reasonable time frame.  I learned this from experience.  It's always fun starting a new project but completing it is another animal entirely.  You get a few days in and realize that you bit off way more than you can chew and get discouraged.  Set reasonable goals for yourself.

Or not.

There's great value in trying something and failing to complete it as well :)

This is incredibly true. When I was working on my mmorpg intensely I learned a lot of things and downloaded a lot of programs that later helped me on other projects. I am currently doing some GAE modding and maybe some source altering and when I was compiling the various libraries I realized, hey, I already have CMake on my machine from earlier and I have enough knowledge to use it to build this program. I also already know why I need freetype and libxml2. I felt really good :) Maybe I am too easily pleased though.

  Mendel

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4/23/12 10:05:13 AM#38

Learning to code in any language is a skill.   I've worked professionally in Basic, Cobol, Algol, Fortran, Pascal, C, C++, Java, 8086 Assembly language, Forth, Newp and many others on a casual basis.  About the worst to learn was Forth, because it is almost a write-only language.  The biggest issue with learning C and the C derivatives is knowledge of the various standard libraries.

If you are wanting to create a game, I'd suggest looking at various threads in the Developer's Corner, general discussions.  Of those responding to a poll I recently posted there, most people rank the technical skill of coding rather low when asked what is most important in building a game -- finances and a solid business/project plan were believed to be much more important.  If you're looking at trying to build a major game, you would probably be far better off learning basic business skills.

If you're just wanting to play around with a new language, there's nothing more interesting to do.  Just don't convince yourself that barriers to building a quality AAA game disappear simply because you know C++ or any other programming language du jour.  There's much more to it than knowledge of a specific programming language.

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  nomss

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4/23/12 10:09:45 AM#39

I would start with Java. I think Java might be easier than c++. I would recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Program-early-objects-Edition-Deitel/dp/0132575663/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335193689&sr=8-1

After you're good in Java, then you can pick a C++ book and start learning that too.

I would love to help you learn Java if you're really interested. I have been wanting to write notes for people starting out in programming.

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  Butregenyo

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4/23/12 10:09:49 AM#40

Hello, first of all if you really want to grasp the basic fundementals of programming, i suggest you start learning C by following procedural approaches. Deitel's C: How to Program book may do just fine. Afterwards, you should observe why you would need object oriented programming for well designed large projects. This is when you can easily learn how to use C++. Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel is a nice book and helped me out a lot during my 2nd year in school.

Learning a language is not a big deal, you should learn how to design well-built object models, relations and patterns. I think the best way to achieve that is to set up a project way above your current level with each step and jump into the ocean you are unfamiliar with and try to swim back to the land. Always search your issues on sites like stackoverflow.com, read other people's experiences. Start and design on paper, dont design your projects on the code at first. Read good practices about writing code.

On the way of learning i also highly suggest that you start using a subversion system like git or mercurial.

 

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